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OfflineSneezingPenis
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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: vampirism]
    #7848611 - 01/08/08 03:43 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

how sad that seemingly logical, emotionally stable people are affected by the "Rove tactics of how to win an election".

it doesnt matter how ludicrous or blatantly false it is, as long as you "break" some lie and time it just right to where it will be a last second dealbreaker right before the voting, but not allow enough time for the truth to be disseminated before voting happens.

he made a person that was the president of the National Committee to Prevent Child Abuse and Neglect out to be a pedophile.
he made a decorated war veteran who had lost his legs and one arm in combat out to be a traitor and unpatriotic.
the list goes on.... dont think that campaign strategists havent learned a thing or two from Rove, or are above doing such things.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: SoY]
    #7848878 - 01/08/08 04:33 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Dr Paul's very weak response:

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement:

“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

“In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’

“This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”

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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Gijith]
    #7848912 - 01/08/08 04:39 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Well when you have to repeat your apology over and over and over for a decade... you get a little tired of typing


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Gijith]
    #7848918 - 01/08/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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Gijith said:
Dr Paul's very weak response:




Is that sarcasm? The response isn't weak at all.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7848932 - 01/08/08 04:43 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Apparently "weak" = something less than an essay, no matter how direct and complete


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: johnm214]
    #7848993 - 01/08/08 04:52 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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johnm214 said:
zappa, I don't see any of those as being per se racist...






This is:

Quote:

mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white 'haves.'"




It is a stereotypical prediction not a recititation of any fact.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: BrAiN]
    #7849009 - 01/08/08 04:54 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

I love how some people on here act incredulous when we dont believe what the bush administration claims, and will turn around and claim that someone like RP is lying.
hmmmm.... one has been caught in numerous lies and bending of truths while the other has yet to ever give any cause for distrust.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7849012 - 01/08/08 04:54 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

People on welfare feel justified and entitled to the money, or they wouldn't be on it. Percentage-wise more welfare recipients are African-American. How is this racist zappa?


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: SoY]
    #7849029 - 01/08/08 04:56 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

"Mostly black"

Most welfare recipients are white.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7849058 - 01/08/08 05:03 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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In the past, scholars have noted that there were more White families in America on welfare than there were Blacks. That is no longer the case. Blacks now outnumber Whites. Black and Hispanic welfare recipients combined now outnumber Whites 2-1, according to a New York Times report.






http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n12_v94/ai_21020055


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7849112 - 01/08/08 05:10 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

its funny to see liberals and neocons both attacking paul. i think it almost proves he's doing something right:poopbanana:


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7849192 - 01/08/08 05:22 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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YawningAnus said:
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In the past, scholars have noted that there were more White families in America on welfare than there were Blacks. That is no longer the case. Blacks now outnumber Whites. Black and Hispanic welfare recipients combined now outnumber Whites 2-1, according to a New York Times report.






http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n12_v94/ai_21020055




That's interesting. Also irrelevant, since it was written nearly ten years after the Ron Paul Investment Letter article was written and the change in welfare didn't start until the 1996 legislation kicking people off.

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As early as December 1989, a section of his Investment Letter, titled "What To Expect for the 1990s," predicted that "Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities" because "mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white 'haves.'"




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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Gijith]
    #7849232 - 01/08/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Weak or not, it's the truth.

Bottom line is, no one anywhere has audio or video of Paul saying anything racists and he's been in Politics for over 20 years.

Nothing.

Lots of pro individual and equal rights stuff though!!!!!!!!


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7849363 - 01/08/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

All this arguing against Paul is just a great appeal to emotion.

Look! Something bad about blacks!!!!......Not written by him.......and he apologized for it, recognizing it's existence and his RESPONSIBILITY.

Look at Romney when McKain and Huckachuck were grilling him on abortion in the last debate. "You were PRO CHOICE!!!"
-"No, that's not true"
"Here are facts that PROVE IT"
-"Well, I wasn't always pro choice"

Whether you agree with abortion or not, or that he is a flip-flopper or not, you must agree that Romney there told a lie, when he said that McCain's statement was not true.

These other politicians never take responsibility for their (numerous) fuck ups, they just lie. All they can do is attack each other, and then try to discourage opponents of hitting below the belt.

Keep playing the politics.

You must also recognize that people ARE in fact justified at characterizing Blacks with certain qualities, because they in fact characterize THEMSELVES with them.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7850474 - 01/08/08 09:00 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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zappaisgod said:
"Mostly black"

Most welfare recipients are white.





Most everything in this country is white.


80% of the population is white. If there's any catagory that is NOT predominantly white, well, that would take some work.

about 14% of the population is black. you'd expect welfare to follow similar patterns, 80% white 14% black. it does not.

how does that work out then that blacks are more likely to be on welfare than whites, yet more whites are on welfare?

If you use your brain-muscle for a second you'd realize that if you're presented a random welfare recepiant, most likely they'd be white. if you're presented a random person and are to guess if they're on welfare or not, you'd be correct more often by always assuming the black ones are on welfare and the white ones are not.

that's how the numbers break down.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7850849 - 01/08/08 10:05 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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OneLessForeskin said:
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BrAiN said:
He's responded to a lot of those quotes... most of them aren't even from his mouth but from a newslatter of his. He says a lot of those racist quotes were printed by some of the editors under his name without his knowledge and has apologized, stating that they don't reflect his opinion at all.




So a guy who lets racist, homophobic, anti-semitic slander get printed in his name without his knowledge, on his flagship newsletter, for 10 years...I should trust this guy to run my country?





Sure, why not?


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7850993 - 01/08/08 10:27 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

It's hilarious to see all the PaulBearers desperately rationalizing all of Ron's racist garbage. He's batshit crazy, and the longer you support this bozo, the dumber you look.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: LucidDream]
    #7852563 - 01/09/08 07:17 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

It's funny watching people cling to scraps of any dirt to dig up about Paul when there aren't any


Edited by BrAiN (01/09/08 07:27 AM)


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: BrAiN]
    #7852600 - 01/09/08 07:41 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

No, it's funny when people get so behind a candidate they don't think there could possibly be any dirt on them.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7852603 - 01/09/08 07:45 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

It's funny when people dig through the bowls of history and find only one piece of dirt on a candidate that the candidate has explained and apologized for years ago... and people still try to stick it to him/her out of desperation.


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