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First monotub grow~~~ * 1
    #7845149 - 01/07/08 07:10 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Hello again everyone.

1. Using WBS as substrate. Following the tek http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek

2. Inoculate 1cc of B+ (or other strain if I have the money to purchase) to 10 WBS Jars. SHAKE WELL

3. Incubate in my double tub incubator until substrate is fully colonised. I will be shaking at 25% and again at 50%

4. Following this Tek http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7490393/an/0/page/0
I will be making a monotub.


5. Spawn to coir/verm/coffee in monotub


6. Monotub will be left until fully colonized, following this link http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7708447/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

I will case the substrate


Monotub will now be ready to pin, and then flush, and then dunk and flush again and again and again.



I need insight to anything I've missed.


Thanks all~!
Massive Greenhouse grow
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6280307/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

getting the most out of your pinset
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3290155/an/0/page/0

Faht's bulk grow
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7893964/an/0/page/0

late casing tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7708447/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

coir bulk
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=30&Number=8324968&page=0&fpart=1

coir vs hpoo
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6413236#6413236

ohmatics monotub
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5276282

RR's hpoo pasturising tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=64&Number=669310&page=0&fpart=1

50/50coir vs 50/50 peat
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2480695/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

monstermitch rules, read this jas read it
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6013813#Post6013813
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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: deXtrous]
    #7845176 - 01/07/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

It won't be left in the dark to fruit- after you've spawned and colonized your hpoo, you'll introduce a light cycle.


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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: deXtrous]
    #7845181 - 01/07/08 07:17 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Horse poo, you basically boil the poop to feild capacity ( boil the poo in hot water for roughly 30 - 70 minutes), drain the excess water out in a collender in the sink, load into jars (spawn jars are easiest wen you've knocked the spawn out and your waiting for your myc. to heal for a few hours, which makes perfect for poo jars) and cook in the pc for 60 minutes. Thats your poo 101.

Mixing the spawn up with the poo isnt that hard. I personally leave the spawn at the bottom and let the poo colonize up all the way but you instead of just layering it, you could vary it by mixing everything completely together for faster colonization, but you dont even worry about it, you just mix it up how ever you want to in there.

Good enough?
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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7845191 - 01/07/08 07:19 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Ok, so I added a few steps where I was missing the hpoo tek (found one off RoadKill).

So, After I spawn to the monotub and I see signs of colonisation I can introduce the light cycle (probably being 12/12 right?)


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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: deXtrous]
    #7845200 - 01/07/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

You will want to wait until the bulk substrate is completely colonizied before introducing fruiting conditions (light cycle, frequent air exchanges, etc.)

12/12 will work fine.


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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: Premedman1]
    #7845211 - 01/07/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Premedman1 said:
You will want to wait until the bulk substrate is completely colonizied before introducing fruiting conditions (light cycle, frequent air exchanges, etc.)

12/12 will work fine.





I will be able to tell it is fully colonized because the mixed substrate will show a full layer of white mycelium, or should I wait for signs of pinning?


Thanks everyone - responses have been very helpful


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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: deXtrous]
    #7845223 - 01/07/08 07:27 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

FAE on colonized sub. IS what triggers pinning for the most part.

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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7845256 - 01/07/08 07:33 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I like to wait a couple of days after the entire surface of the substrate appears white before introducing fruiting conditions. This helps ensure that the center of the bulk substrate is fully colonized as well.

Do you plan on casing? I've found it to not be necessary with monotubs, but can be beneficial.


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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: Premedman1]
    #7845270 - 01/07/08 07:37 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Premedman1 said:
I like to wait a couple of days after the entire surface of the substrate appears white before introducing fruiting conditions. This helps ensure that the center of the bulk substrate is fully colonized as well.

Do you plan on casing? I've found it to not be necessary with monotubs, but can be beneficial.





By my understanding casing happens after I spawn my hpoo+wbs into the monotub. I apply a layer of casing material on top.

What is beneficial? I know it can help reduce risk of contamination, I think. Is there anything else?

Are there any extra steps/precautions when doing a casing.


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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: deXtrous]
    #7845367 - 01/07/08 07:56 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Casing your substrate will provide a humid micro-climate stimulating pin formation. It can help improve your pinset, and can ultimately improve yield.
Since monotubs provide their own micro-climate, it's not necessary, but IMHO, I'd rather have a sea of moderately sized mushrooms than a few big honkers.

The only extra step is mixing and pasteurizing/sterilizing your casing mix, and applying it once your bulk sub is 100% colonized.
I'd suggest the 50/50 peatmoss/vermiculite mix with a bit of hydrated lime and gypsum.


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Re: First monotub grow~~~ [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7846395 - 01/07/08 11:15 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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hightimesreader said:
Horse poo, you basically boil the poop to feild capacity ( boil the poo in hot water for roughly 30 - 70 minutes), drain the excess water out in a collender in the sink, load into jars (spawn jars are easiest wen you've knocked the spawn out and your waiting for your myc. to heal for a few hours, which makes perfect for poo jars) and cook in the pc for 60 minutes. Thats your poo 101.

Mixing the spawn up with the poo isnt that hard. I personally leave the spawn at the bottom and let the poo colonize up all the way but you instead of just layering it, you could vary it by mixing everything completely together for faster colonization, but you dont even worry about it, you just mix it up how ever you want to in there.

Good enough?
HTR




NOOOOO. That will sterilize the poo and you want to pasteurize it to reduce contamination risk.
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