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Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics?
    #7844069 - 01/07/08 03:24 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Akiane is an alleged child prodigy. See more here.

She has done many fine works between the ages of 8-12. Her work is interesting not merely because of her age, but because of the content. Mystics, pyramids, dolphins, nature, quantum physics, the birth of stars, reincarnation; etc.

I have a few comments on her works. First off, I think she is trying to tell us that singer/songwriter Kenny Loggins is the second coming of Jesus. You be the judge:


Loggins


Prince of Peace


The following one is very interesting to say the least. Note that the fruit is a grape instead of an apple, but any chemist will tell you that that is the structure of the DMT molecule!


Forbidden fruit.


Less you think I just make this stuff up, check out her special dedication to LSA which just may be the real source of her inspiration. Also note the auspicious title.

The Dance Of The Mind Inside The White


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7844336 - 01/07/08 04:14 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Did you read her story on how she got the model for 'Prince of Peace'?

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It was God's timing; I had been looking for a Jesus model for two years, and I could not find the right face. Then one day I asked my family to pray with me all day. We petitioned God to send the model right through our front door. The next day a tall carpenter came in. He was so humble, and I was surprised that he agreed to model for me. But a week later he called back to say that he was unworthy to represent his master. We all prayed together again, and a few days later he called back to tell us that God wanted him to do it, but he had to cut his hair and beard in three days. So we took a few pictures and I studied his face for a long time. After dozens of sketches, I started painting. It took me 40 hours to finish the first Jesus painting –The Prince of Peace-- and I still remember I lost four teeth in that time!




I also like the implications of



entitled, 'Jesus, The Missing Years' (something like that).


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: WScott]
    #7846947 - 01/08/08 06:28 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

i'm going to cynically guess that her parents are wacko assholes that basically forced her into all of this.

i want to see what shes painting when she's 40 and has been away from them for 20 years.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7847080 - 01/08/08 08:38 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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i'm going to cynically guess that her parents are wacko assholes that basically forced her into all of this.





She is a binary genius regardless. But yeah, is Akiane some kind of ethnic name, or is it a new age name? Seems like they are helping to guide her ideas. If you notice, early from age 4 to 7 or so, she was just drawing and painting people and animals. Then it went mystical suddenly. Then again, if you watch the video there is something genuine and honest about her speech and mannerisms.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7847086 - 01/08/08 08:44 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Definitely on drugs:





Reflections for “Quantum World”

We cannot complain
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Chromosomes and quarks stare at me
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To have a future
we have to live
and leave the present.

Just as you commit to this life
when it commits to leaving you.

No supernatural can exist
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Wisdom chooses the unknown
to be its reason.

Hallucination is a raw climb
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An illusion can never go faster
than the speed limit of reality.

We chase gravity of the micro world,
but after leaving its world
we try to perfect the laws here
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7847097 - 01/08/08 08:47 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

I'm going to guess her parents give her drugs and offer religious explanations for her visions.

Quite a talent, though.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7847222 - 01/08/08 09:52 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

It will be interesting to watch her go through her own Britney as she becomes emancipated.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: eve69]
    #7847223 - 01/08/08 09:52 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

She is like the cosmic blonde archetype. Lord bless her.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7847529 - 01/08/08 11:44 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

"channeler for God or child on psychedelics ?"
Psychosis ? haha, no :smile: Maybe if she stays at this level until age 30. But if she develops further and healthy, then wow. What else will she realize ...
If one could exclude crazy parents, the better...

Crazy fascinating stuff... :shrug:


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7847988 - 01/08/08 01:36 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

if her jesus was of middle-eastern ethnicity I would give her more ear.
Unfortunately he is a noble-looking white man, similar to that of the crockpot evangelist jesus.
Maybe god sends different images to communicate with peoples, so his loving lordship is accepted with less fear or suspicion, of being a terrorist towel head

Her paintings are gloriously composed though, the color and dimensions are exact and realistic, and yet so vividly ethereal
shes needs to now integrate another level of complexification and intent into her paintings, rather than just focusing on the aesthetic presentation of basic concepts like space/garden/man's face


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: krin]
    #7848438 - 01/08/08 03:08 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

According to the website her parents were atheists until Akiane began talking about how she knew it was God that was the force behind her paintings.

I don't know if it is fair to say that her parents forced drugs on her or her art is drug induced. In 'Be Here Now', Ram Dass tells us that he gave a large dose of LSD to his Guru upon his Guru's request and nothing happened. To put in other words, it was already happening with his Guru.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: WScott]
    #7848553 - 01/08/08 03:31 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

In 'Be Here Now', Ram Dass tells us that he gave a large dose of LSD to his Guru upon his Guru's request and nothing happened. To put in other words, it was already happening with his Guru.

Stories. Don't  you just love em. Most of em aren't true. Guru stories are a big favorite with the new age crowd. Jesus stories are a big favorite with the Christians.:shrug:


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
    #7848874 - 01/08/08 04:32 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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In 'Be Here Now', Ram Dass tells us that he gave a large dose of LSD to his Guru upon his Guru's request and nothing happened. To put in other words, it was already happening with his Guru.

Stories. Don't  you just love em. Most of em aren't true. Guru stories are a big favorite with the new age crowd. Jesus stories are a big favorite with the Christians.:shrug:




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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: WScott]
    #7849272 - 01/08/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Ram Dass tells us that he gave a large dose of LSD to his Guru upon his Guru's request and nothing happened.

Sounds like bullshit to me. Kinda like those gurus who claim they can go years without food or water, but refuse to do it with a trained observer watching.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Diploid]
    #7849403 - 01/08/08 05:54 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

I'd love to be a trained guru observer


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7849430 - 01/08/08 05:57 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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I'd love to be a trained stripper observer




:thumbup: I'm unfortunately just an amateur.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
    #7849434 - 01/08/08 05:58 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Hey I don't remember saying that :crankey:


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7849436 - 01/08/08 05:59 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

:blush:


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
    #7850001 - 01/08/08 07:49 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

There may be a lot of BS in this game, but I've spent time with Ram Dass and his stories are as real and true as he is.

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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #7850200 - 01/08/08 08:23 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Ram Dass and his stories are as real

You actually believe he can take a heavy LSD dose and not be affected? :confused:


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Diploid]
    #7850240 - 01/08/08 08:28 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

He never said his Guru wasn't affected, he simply said his Guru didn't react in any way...


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #7851005 - 01/08/08 10:29 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Ran Dass laid on the floor for about 6 hours after his stroke and told himself that he could get up any time he wanted to and that nothing was wrong.

Is that being self-aware and free from ego? Is this what decades of meditation taught him?


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7851028 - 01/08/08 10:33 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Source?


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #7851260 - 01/08/08 11:19 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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Source?




He said it in his own book called Still Here on aging. And no, it was not as described by Orgone Conclusion. He was imagining himself as being much older than he was, and his body failing, etc. When he fell out of bed, he was convinced that he was playing into the fantasy still, and possibly too strongly. That is why he told his friend who called on the phone that he didn't need help. And it had nothing to do with telling himself he could get up when he wanted.

It was about being into the ego in the way of "I can get up and beat this whenever I want". It was more about not thinking of the spiritual in the face of his own death. That is why he said he was still in the ego and had much work to do.

EDIT: And yes, he said that the LSD didn't do anything to Maharaji (as far as he could tell. He showed no reaction). People misinterpret often.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7851611 - 01/09/08 12:15 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

i saw a somewhat crazy person eat shrooms for days, then smoke 5-meo-dmt and salvia together and it didn't seem to effect him. that was pretty impressive.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #7852781 - 01/09/08 09:33 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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There may be a lot of BS in this game, but I've spent time with Ram Dass and his stories are as real and true as he is.

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I actually spent some time around him and he was stoned on pot the whole time and often repeated himself and didn't seem to notice he wasn't very coherent.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
    #7852938 - 01/09/08 10:15 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Is coherency a metric for guruhood?


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
    #7853263 - 01/09/08 11:51 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Ever see a drunk insist (and believe) he's not drunk slurring and stumbling all the time? YouTube has some hilarious cop vs drunk driver videos of this.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7853509 - 01/09/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

here is another akiane video:

Akiane

my personal view is that when she refers to 'god', she is refering to an advanced being or race that is trying to communitate a message to humanity through her.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Scratcher]
    #7853592 - 01/09/08 01:16 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

My personal view is different. Perhaps there can be thousands of splinter groups of Akianity each based upon their own interpretation.

*Shmoopy goes to get a hammer and some nails*


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7858017 - 01/10/08 07:49 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

So how does one explain this from a rationalistic scientific perspective?

Her thoughts suggest a different chemical makeup than average.

Perhaps an abundance of DMT production?

Looks like evolution in action to me.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: pattern]
    #7859149 - 01/10/08 12:19 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

She is technically proficient, but unfortunately her subject matter is new agey Christian drivel. I don't see true originality here. All of her paintings look like black light posters. While she is gifted in her ability her web page has been obviously professionally hyped and packaged by profiteers to make her seem to be more than what she is. Her spirituality (as portrayed on her page)appears to be the standard, new age, feel good bullshit that has been dumbed down further with Christian leanings in order to market to both crowds. Sorry if I sound negative, but don't make more out of this than it is...the creative expression of a human being...nothing more.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
    #7859167 - 01/10/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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I actually spent some time around him and he was stoned on pot the whole time and often repeated himself and didn't seem to notice he wasn't very coherent.




I was listening to some talks by him yesterday, and he admittedly said that he used to be overly concerned with being high, whether through meditation or psychedelics, in order to be free of the lower realms (physical, mental, emotional). He then realized that was still an attachment, and readjusted his aims. He said now he is more concerned with being free.


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7859194 - 01/10/08 12:25 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

This was about five years ago. He was pretty ripped IMO and kept saying "Thank God for Medical Marijuana.:lol:


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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
    #7859317 - 01/10/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Wow! He IS pretty ripped! :eek:



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