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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Diploid]
#7850240 - 01/08/08 08:28 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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He never said his Guru wasn't affected, he simply said his Guru didn't react in any way...
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
#7851005 - 01/08/08 10:29 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Ran Dass laid on the floor for about 6 hours after his stroke and told himself that he could get up any time he wanted to and that nothing was wrong.
Is that being self-aware and free from ego? Is this what decades of meditation taught him?
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7851028 - 01/08/08 10:33 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Source?
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
#7851260 - 01/08/08 11:19 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Middleman said: Source?
He said it in his own book called Still Here on aging. And no, it was not as described by Orgone Conclusion. He was imagining himself as being much older than he was, and his body failing, etc. When he fell out of bed, he was convinced that he was playing into the fantasy still, and possibly too strongly. That is why he told his friend who called on the phone that he didn't need help. And it had nothing to do with telling himself he could get up when he wanted.
It was about being into the ego in the way of "I can get up and beat this whenever I want". It was more about not thinking of the spiritual in the face of his own death. That is why he said he was still in the ego and had much work to do.
EDIT: And yes, he said that the LSD didn't do anything to Maharaji (as far as he could tell. He showed no reaction). People misinterpret often.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: jonathanseagull]
#7851611 - 01/09/08 12:15 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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i saw a somewhat crazy person eat shrooms for days, then smoke 5-meo-dmt and salvia together and it didn't seem to effect him. that was pretty impressive.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
#7852781 - 01/09/08 09:33 AM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Middleman said: There may be a lot of BS in this game, but I've spent time with Ram Dass and his stories are as real and true as he is.
Guru Ratings
I actually spent some time around him and he was stoned on pot the whole time and often repeated himself and didn't seem to notice he wasn't very coherent.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
#7852938 - 01/09/08 10:15 AM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Is coherency a metric for guruhood?
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
#7853263 - 01/09/08 11:51 AM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Ever see a drunk insist (and believe) he's not drunk slurring and stumbling all the time? YouTube has some hilarious cop vs drunk driver videos of this.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7853509 - 01/09/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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here is another akiane video:
Akiane
my personal view is that when she refers to 'god', she is refering to an advanced being or race that is trying to communitate a message to humanity through her.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Scratcher]
#7853592 - 01/09/08 01:16 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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My personal view is different. Perhaps there can be thousands of splinter groups of Akianity each based upon their own interpretation.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7858017 - 01/10/08 07:49 AM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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So how does one explain this from a rationalistic scientific perspective?
Her thoughts suggest a different chemical makeup than average.
Perhaps an abundance of DMT production?
Looks like evolution in action to me.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: pattern]
#7859149 - 01/10/08 12:19 PM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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She is technically proficient, but unfortunately her subject matter is new agey Christian drivel. I don't see true originality here. All of her paintings look like black light posters. While she is gifted in her ability her web page has been obviously professionally hyped and packaged by profiteers to make her seem to be more than what she is. Her spirituality (as portrayed on her page)appears to be the standard, new age, feel good bullshit that has been dumbed down further with Christian leanings in order to market to both crowds. Sorry if I sound negative, but don't make more out of this than it is...the creative expression of a human being...nothing more.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
#7859167 - 01/10/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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Icelander said: I actually spent some time around him and he was stoned on pot the whole time and often repeated himself and didn't seem to notice he wasn't very coherent.
I was listening to some talks by him yesterday, and he admittedly said that he used to be overly concerned with being high, whether through meditation or psychedelics, in order to be free of the lower realms (physical, mental, emotional). He then realized that was still an attachment, and readjusted his aims. He said now he is more concerned with being free.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: jonathanseagull]
#7859194 - 01/10/08 12:25 PM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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This was about five years ago. He was pretty ripped IMO and kept saying "Thank God for Medical Marijuana.
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Re: Akiane - channeler for God or child on psychedelics? [Re: Icelander]
#7859317 - 01/10/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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Wow! He IS pretty ripped! 
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