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Re: dissociation, sanity, society [Re: justamonkey]
    #7852194 - 01/09/08 02:51 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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Most people are crazy most of the time, but nobody is crazy all of the time, if you take the definition of insane to mean attempting to get different results from the same methods.

Look at all the weight loss products, get-rich quick schemes, and other cheesy crap out there. And that's just the obvious stuff. You want real lunatics? Look around, the whole planet's full of them, we're practically one gigantic Bell View. I mean, you would have to totally expunge the human mind (all of them) of social function and rewire them from the ground up to completely undermine the way the system works.

Society has been evolving for a long time, its not only as good as a living, breathing entity, its better. It will live as long as we do (collectively) and evolve to absorb and conform us.

Look at this forum, how many of you have changed your ideas and opinions based on what you've read here? Of coarse we are subject to the influences of our environment! What's necessary is to maintain that none of those ideas are any more relevant than the next, and to maintain, at all possible moments, the sort of awareness necessary to not only adapt to new ideas and thoughts, but to release those that become invalid to your current situation, immediately.

Children know about imitation and fear of rejection through us teaching it to them for scolding them for things that are 'socially' unacceptable because we are 'supposed' to.

Unless you are aware, you are just another cog in the machine. You aren't in control at all, you only think you are. Ultimately, if you fulfill all of your life's goals, what will it mean to you? This is hard to communicate because the social system makes the term happy so misconstrued. I'm trying to ask, are your goals, your goals? What have you chosen, and are you aware of why you chose it?

It is a closed system, it begins at birth and ends at death, each individual goes through it, and all maintain a varying degree of awareness of it as it happens. Ultimately the system finishes and the body dies, afterward we have no reference, but assuming that our ability to perceive is lost and our consciousness fades, what will we have left? Nothing.

This means, ultimately that we will remember nothing. Our actions will not matter to us because they will no longer be objectified to us, since we will no longer exist. The system has ended. We have ended with it. So then, what is important? Being rich? Married? Owning that nice house? Maybe.

To me, its kind of like this: Its not whether you win or lose, because you're dead, you know you will die. Its not even how you play the game, because you won't remember that either.

Society does a nifty job of escorting you from the beginning to the end without much fuss. My goal is to subvert societies limitations in every manner possible so I can grasp the whole of the experience, and live in the now as much as possible. Direct opposition is hard wired in to children, what I'm talking about is awareness. Perceiving as much of what is cause and effect as possible and adjusting accordingly. The elimination of pattern in such a way that will appear to be pattern, but in effect be whatever I choose. Disappearing into the clockwork gears around me, just another guy out there. Ever increasing the size of my comfort zone, flexing it like a muscle, stronger and more flexible, and able to take whatever I can throw at it, until the day I die, all while evaluating society and accepting the parts I like, and finding ways around the parts I don't.





thats one of the best things ive read in a long time. very good.


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Re: dissociation, sanity, society [Re: Icelander]
    #7853026 - 01/09/08 10:48 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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Icelander said:
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Just that our life will pass over our own experience. In other's remembrance.
We may be dissociated to us, but not to society and vice versa. There inbetween lies sanity.




What? There in between lies sanity?:confused: Are you fucking insane?



Sure :smile:
If somebody only really does what he wants, without respect to his surroundings, society would call him insane.
If somebody would only do what his surroundings expect from him, he would consider himself as insane.

So sanity is a little bit experienced insanity of society and oneself.

I think there's no real mental sane one in a society. Mental sanity is an illusion of conformity (to oneself and towards society).


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Re: dissociation, sanity, society [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7853041 - 01/09/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

oh:D


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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