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P.Menace
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7861726 - 01/10/08 09:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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so I Pasturized 1 qt of hpoo/verm and Sterilized 1 qt of hpoo/verm made from the same batch, dont worry I believe you Nibin about the beneficial bacteria but... I want to see for myself. While it was cooling (still cooling...) I made 2-2 liter Poor Mans pods. Heres the plan: In the Pmp's I plan on mixing 1 pt hpoo/verm to 1/2 pt fully colonized PF cake (made 12/23) so a 1:2 ratio and I plan on doing this with both pasturized and sterilized, same strain, case 50/50 peat/verm 1/4" once fully colonized and see what happens overall.
also what do you think this substrate would do? 1 part Hpoo 1 part Wood chips 1 part straw 1 part verm I may try this as well to spawn to. its the best of all worlds sort of
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anarchOi
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7861773 - 01/10/08 09:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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skip the woodchips
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Pr0_X
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: anarchOi]
#7862028 - 01/10/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont know if I missed your reasoning for making 181 pf jars if your spawning to bulk when you could cutt that down to 30 litres of rye with the same results....
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P.Menace
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Pr0_X]
#7862615 - 01/10/08 11:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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uh spawning wasnt the original plan but it is a good plan and I MAY (probably) do some spawning, but i have grain for that too
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7862698 - 01/10/08 11:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you have the space, I would think that spawning would definitely be the way to go. You made nearly 200 jars. Go big.
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Brain Fart
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: thedefone]
#7862882 - 01/10/08 11:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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YOU sir, are FUCKING....
CRRRAZZYYYY
Lol 181 jars, all seperately inoculated..I cannot even fathom tending to jars 24 hours straight..
Your some sort of mad scientist aren't you? Making your damn marshmellow men shaped cake frankensteins!
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P.Menace
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Brain Fart]
#7862993 - 01/11/08 12:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im Mac Guiver Shroomer Bitches!! lol no seriously I may be crazy cuz everyone tells me I could have made less jars if I were using grain... NOT TRUE... I would have used just exactally as many only they would have been full of grain, but .23 cents a jar for PF... FUCK IT WBS would probably be more like .05 cents a jar but less nutritive and would NEED bulk
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Nibin
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7863736 - 01/11/08 06:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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P.Menace said: Im Mac Guiver Shroomer Bitches!! lol no seriously I may be crazy cuz everyone tells me I could have made less jars if I were using grain... NOT TRUE... I would have used just exactally as many only they would have been full of grain, but .23 cents a jar for PF... FUCK IT WBS would probably be more like .05 cents a jar but less nutritive and would NEED bulk
WBS is MORE nutritive. There is more grain in a jar and no non nutritive verm. The only problem is that as it doesn't contain verm it doesn't hold water well so needs to be cased or spawned to bulk.
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7864635 - 01/11/08 11:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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P.Menace said: Im Mac Guiver Shroomer Bitches!!
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azurescens
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7864684 - 01/11/08 11:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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P.Menace said: Im Mac Guiver Shroomer Bitches!! lol
Difference between you and Macguyver is he always had a plan. You did all this work and have no clear idea as to what to do with it. Good luck though.
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P.Menace
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: azurescens]
#7864717 - 01/11/08 12:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I KNOW what I am doing... I have a plan... but I like other input as well. I am open to new ideas
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Pr0_X
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: azurescens]
#7864734 - 01/11/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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What I was trying to tell say is 181 jar's is prone to failure and I'm speaking from my own experience, I to went your route when trying for a huge bulk grow that produced lb's of specialty mushrooms but in the end out of 78 pf jars I ended up with 34, trust me, after inoculating 10 jars your nerves will be shot and thats when mistakes happen or things go UN-noticed, it only takes one mistake to inter duce contams to all your jars...
Buying a large pressure cooker capable of handling large gallon jars would be more efficient then 181 small jars is what I'm trying to tell you, to each his own but trust me, you'll be singing the same tune in time.
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7864738 - 01/11/08 12:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well with 181 jars spawned, you could just do what everybody wants to see, the absolute biggest patch of cubensis ever grown..... if the mycellium made a big enough network underground it could be pretty amazing to see come back every year. either that or go for the biggest casing, as big as a fat kids sandbox... thats just my 2 cents.
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Edited by es_f1 (01/11/08 12:10 PM)
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P.Menace
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: es_f1]
#7864826 - 01/11/08 12:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well its been 3 days since inoculation, and I just checked up on everything, and I was amazed!... 3 days and most of the jars are around 30-40% colonized with the exception of a few that are farther along and a few that are farther behind. NO Contams so far (knock on wood) but everything looks great. I do have over 200 jars to check on at once as I still have 2 dozen from the last batch, grain jars, woodchip jars and LC's, also 5 monotubs and 3 FC's. it is getting to be a good day job, and I havent even harvested anything this year yet.
I agree with es_f1, I can and am doing what people want to see, I like to play as well, I have a beautiful spot picked out by a river in the shade where I can take my old cakes and casings and bury them, would probably help things out by adding poo out there too but I will make sure to take pictures of that too when I go out there again. Also I am setting up for my azure grow but I dont know how im gonna do that yet but I got time to figure it out, spawn is colonizing
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thedefone
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7865713 - 01/11/08 04:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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3 days and most of the jars are around 30-40% colonized
That sounds too fast. 40% colonization in a time where half of most grows are looking for any sign of growth at all sounds suspicious. I hope I'm wrong though...
Good Luck!
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: thedefone]
#7865738 - 01/11/08 04:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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thedefone said:
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3 days and most of the jars are around 30-40% colonized
That sounds too fast. 40% colonization in a time where half of most grows are looking for any sign of growth at all sounds suspicious. I hope I'm wrong though...
Good Luck!
He did use an LC to inoculate not spores...
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thedefone
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Nibin]
#7865753 - 01/11/08 04:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I know. I saw that.. Just saying to be on the lookout.
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goldieman
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: es_f1]
#7865797 - 01/11/08 04:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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es_f1 said: Well with 181 jars spawned, you could just do what everybody wants to see, the absolute biggest patch of cubensis ever grown..... if the mycellium made a big enough network underground it could be pretty amazing to see come back every year. either that or go for the biggest casing, as big as a fat kids sandbox... thats just my 2 cents.
thats only a little over 40 quarts. if you use as much spawn as most do it wouldn't really stretch THAT far. but THAT far to me might be real far for some
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
#7865914 - 01/11/08 04:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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sounds like another chance for someone to fill a kiddie pool. seriously i want to see it done. 181 jars... why not try, and when you get wbs going, try grain to grain xfer, makes things alot easier, for me anyways. especially since it seems like you have the time to PC a shit ton of jars. damn bro, i hope to see a thread in a couple months saying "430qts wbs what to do next??". honestly i think you could make it happen! good luck bro
Edited by knotty (01/11/08 04:56 PM)
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P.Menace
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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: goldieman]
#7865918 - 01/11/08 04:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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LC's from agar>>clone They Rock
430 qts! WBS! uh I dont have that many jars but giant steam bags are cheap It could happen but I gotta wait for "tax" season
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Edited by P.Menace (01/11/08 04:58 PM)
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