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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: anarchOi]
    #7853688 - 01/09/08 01:35 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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once the cakes are fully colonized, all you gotta do is crumble them in a tub, let them restore, then case as you like and spray
BRF is veeeery nutritous
your shrooms would be ungodly from a 5inch brf substrate

nibin, go ahead and pastuerize your cakes xD




Where the hell did I say anything about pasteurizing the bloody cakes?

He asked how to prepare enough bulk substrate to spawn his cakes to.

I answered that with the pots and pillowcases and spending another whole day, as he did when preparing all those jars, he can pasteurize enough bulk substrate to spawn his cakes into.


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Nibin]
    #7853744 - 01/09/08 01:45 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

no no thats NOT what I asked, I asked how would you go about STERILIZING bulk PF material for a 24"x48'x5" thick monotub. no Hpoo I have 5 of those colonizing, No WBS I have 12 quarts colonizing, No Wood Chips I have 12 quarts colonizing. No PF jars I have 181 colonizing.

Or to make a 35 gallon drum full but the drum would have to be sterile first then filled with sterile substrate and spawn/ss/LC, incubated, birthed, dunked and rolled and placed in an FC or humidity tent


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
    #7853807 - 01/09/08 01:54 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

I didn't interpret it that way. Oh well.

Anyway, you couldn't do it in a monotub in any case. As PF jars contain grain and grain needs to be colonized inside a sterile container (jar, filter bag) and will contaminate in something like a monotub


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
    #7853854 - 01/09/08 02:01 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)


Or say I did this with some jars (the blue) and filled between (the yellow) them with pasturized Hpoo and cased with a 50/50 peat/verm...
How fast do you think that it would colonize the Hpoo?


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
    #7853889 - 01/09/08 02:08 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Just crumble the cakes and mix them up with the poo. That will colonize faster.

It was this system I was referring to when I mentioned pasteurizing the poo.

Crumbled cakes to poo is a great way of making bulk grows without using a PC.

I used to make them a lot.


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Nibin]
    #7854052 - 01/09/08 02:38 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

but I have a PC shouldnt I sterilize instead?


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
    #7854127 - 01/09/08 02:52 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Not bulk substrates. YOu pasteurize bulk substrates as the beneficial bacteria that survive the pasteurization help prevent the contamination of the substrate while it colonizes.


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Nibin]
    #7856212 - 01/09/08 09:24 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

the turn around of 181 cakes -> bulks will be pretty intense

you'll have to donate like 4-5 hours a day to harvest when it comes time

but it will deffinitely be worth it O_O


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: anarchOi]
    #7857285 - 01/10/08 12:17 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

what a 50/50 poo/pf cake be the right mixture for the fastest colonization?


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
    #7857320 - 01/10/08 12:26 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

50/50 would be insanely fast.
20/80 done right with crumbled cakes can be quite awesome

so i'm guessing 50/50 would be a week at max


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: anarchOi]
    #7857710 - 01/10/08 04:24 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

1:4 or 1:5 is what is normally used.

If you use 1:2 your colonization will be really fast.

Try using the spawn rate calculator that is floating around here (by Mojo I think) and work out how much apace you have and how much substrate you want.


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
    #7857830 - 01/10/08 06:37 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I'd just like to see the giant greenhouse sized terrarium used to fruit all those cakes.


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Serial]
    #7857860 - 01/10/08 06:55 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

181 PF TEKS WHY WHY WHY


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7857881 - 01/10/08 07:01 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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181 PF TEKS WHY WHY WHY




Coz he can :grin:


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: P.Menace]
    #7858005 - 01/10/08 07:44 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Alphanautics]
    #7858029 - 01/10/08 07:53 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I wonder if you can get square 1/2 pint drinkning glasses.....Hmmmmmm......Get cakes like bricks......Hmmmmmmmmm.


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7858038 - 01/10/08 07:57 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Lego cakes....


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7858191 - 01/10/08 08:45 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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I wonder if you can get square 1/2 pint drinkning glasses.....Hmmmmmm......Get cakes like bricks......Hmmmmmmmmm.




I once got ahold of a bunch of autoclavable plastic boxes. You pull out the pipet tip holder part and you have a nice square box.


The kind on the right.

Once you give up the fixation with lids you find a lot of cool containers to use. I suggest going to the recycling center and grabbing a bunch of #5 (PP) containers. Almost all #5's will autoclave fine. Make up some story, dress like a bum, or just go at night.


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: fastfred]
    #7858378 - 01/10/08 09:47 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

If you need a harvest buddy, you can always hit me up. haha

Thats gonna be sweet bro, I deffiantely hope to see that all mono-tubbed, cuz that would be huge.  Do you have the room for that many totes? I know I don't:eek:


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Re: 181 PF Tek jars Colonizing. (Pics) [Re: Molasses]
    #7859406 - 01/10/08 01:13 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Yeah the Giant FC is in the works. I have a basically unused 10x10 ft bathroom with 1 completely shelved wall, a tile floor and I just painted it with high gloss, waterproof paint.

ziplock containers= lego cakes, if you sterilize in the microwave

probably will go to bulk with the bulk of those cakes tho, poo/straw is CHEAP CHEAP and whats another week?


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