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Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses
#7841889 - 01/06/08 11:15 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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The camels are the little white things. The black things are shadows. The human brain is very easy to fool.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: Diploid]
#7842043 - 01/07/08 12:14 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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The little white things are clumps of pixels emitting light on my monitor and are NOT camels.
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I don't see how your able to present this photo as a reason to distrust our senses...
Yes, it is an incredible shot, but it takes very little to realize what your looking at initially is a shadow, not the camels themselves. Especially the way they stretch and overlap each other.
I've seen better optical illusions, though not very many photos quite like this.
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OrgoneConclusion said: The little white things are clumps of pixels emitting light on my monitor and are NOT camels.
^That is a good optical illusion.
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OrgoneConclusion said: The little white things are clumps of pixels emitting light on my monitor and are NOT camels.
Got to keep that true believer Diploid down.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: Icelander]
#7842871 - 01/07/08 09:59 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Nice Sword.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: Diploid]
#7844362 - 01/07/08 04:20 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Cool shot....! Which one is Joe....?
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7844383 - 01/07/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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the black things never looked like camels, i never knew a black camel to walk on its side.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: straasha]
#7844425 - 01/07/08 04:35 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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i actually saw the white camels before i saw the shadows...i must be super human, and above my senses.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: Syle]
#7844445 - 01/07/08 04:39 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Absolutely off topic, but what's that in your avatar?
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7844464 - 01/07/08 04:43 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Since when did the shadows of camels, not look like camels?
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: Gomp]
#7844482 - 01/07/08 04:50 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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they may resemble camels. they don't look like actual camels. they look like shadows of camels, which differ from actual camels in subtle but vastly important ways. it would take an a man of intergalactic stupidity to mistake the black silhouette of a camel for the actual beast and a similarly incompetent man to think a camel wasn't around upon seeing said shadow
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: Gomp]
#7844506 - 01/07/08 04:53 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Itd be more of a crisis if the shadows looked like elephants
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: daytripper23]
#7844516 - 01/07/08 04:56 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Now THAT! would be interesting...
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: straasha]
#7844571 - 01/07/08 05:07 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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I'll admit, when I first looked at it, I just thought it was a painting of a bunch of camel sillouhets on a tan marbley backround.
Still though, distrust your senses anyway. It's what the cool kids are doing, and it's as likely to lead to enlightenment or the release of earthly bondage or nirvana or getting laid at parties as anything.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: crumblebum]
#7844589 - 01/07/08 05:11 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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I have developed a liking for my senses over the years, I'd be lost without them.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: straasha]
#7844702 - 01/07/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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straasha said: I have developed a liking for my senses over the years, I'd be lost without them.
Well, I could say the same for women. I like them a lot, but I'll be damned if I trust them.
Distrusting isn't the same as renouncing. Questioning whether things really are the way they seem by your subjective standard isn't the same as rubbing your face on a stove eye or licking a cobra. That's not to say that the stove eye won't really turn out to be the feet of Vishnu and the cobra won't really turn out to be a giant, delicious popsicle, but that kind of thing usually only works out for crazy mystics, and usually only in epic poems.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: straasha]
#7844708 - 01/07/08 05:35 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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The picture could serve as a semi-interesting test of different perceptual modes. Some people upon seeing it recognize the camel form from the shadow and instantly decree they are looking at camels, and then realize its the projected shadows, whereas others of course recognizing the camel shape, do not respond with camel as long as some sort of intuition tells them there is something "peculiar" about what they are observing. Its a response test for perceptual faith
when your tripping on drugs the myriads of complex visuals and symbolic forms permeating your consciousness can be understood in the same manner, how quickly is one to make a judgement, and how much impact does a symbolic attachment determine the sequential psychological reaction to follow.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: crumblebum]
#7845417 - 01/07/08 08:09 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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straasha said: I have developed a liking for my senses over the years, I'd be lost without them.
Well, I could say the same for women. I like them a lot, but I'll be damned if I trust them.
Well, that's too bad for you eh? It's an unpleasant existence to be suspicious all the time, especially of the gender you are sexually attracted to. Although I suppose it's an unpleasant existence to be fully trusting by default and thus suprised when some people turn out to be less than awesome. Better to have no expectations, either of the motives of others or the absolute truth of one's perception. That way you can take more time to accurately evaluate experiences.
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7847482 - 01/08/08 11:26 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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nice
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: crumblebum]
#7847516 - 01/08/08 11:40 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Come here to me you, i don't know why you pulled out the stove and the cobra out of, or what mythic poetry has to do with this (please don't go into a rant about it) I'm just saying, i like my senses, they got me through many the sticky situation.
Those thoughts that relate to things i cant or can barely sense have proven more insidious.
For the most part i trust my senses and my intuitions, i love them. Do i never make mistakes, of course i do, all the time but learning from one i can make another more interesting one and my senses sharpen.
I'm not saying trust them, I'm not saying don't trust them, do you know what i mean?
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Re: Another Reason To Distrust Your Senses [Re: NiamhNyx]
#7847535 - 01/08/08 11:46 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Good post and well put. Presumably you wouldn't include expectations based on evaluations... or evaluations based on expectations of previous evaluations... and so on. It only takes one wrong evaluation to stop it in its tracks, then you have to be quick to react and re-evaluate, so you come back to the senses and all the rest.
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