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Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. *DELETED*
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7841017 - 01/06/08 07:42 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Ott bulb. low energy, low heat, plant friendly.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7841392 - 01/06/08 09:05 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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HPS all the way man... invest in the best
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7842337 - 01/07/08 05:30 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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hps/mh i second that
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: royer]
#7842390 - 01/07/08 05:54 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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HPS/MH aswell
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: gilrand]
#7843158 - 01/07/08 11:22 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Ott-Lite. MOD EDIT: no non sponsor links
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. *DELETED* [Re: HugaDeadHead]
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7843888 - 01/07/08 02:51 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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if all you are growing is salvia then i recomend you go with a few cheep 4 foot shop lights, but for all the other stuff on your first list then get a hps
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7844164 - 01/07/08 03:42 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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is your grow room completely enclosed?
if it is, something you can do is brew alcohol in your grow room, the yeast acts as a co2 generator for the plants to breathe
heres a pictoral about brewing/distilling ethanol with yeast http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=myposts&Number=7810508&page=0&fpart=1
also if its enclosed, a couple house fans runnig in the room just to circulate the air is beneficial
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: royer]
#7844192 - 01/07/08 03:46 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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royer9864 said: hps/mh i second that
what about those crossover mh bulbs that have a color temp of about 4000k? wouldnt those be the best for leaf and growth and bloong as well?
i think the general thing is <3000k=bloom 4000k=all purpose >5000k=veg growth and leaf
please correct me if im wrong or if there are other factors which i havent taken into consideration
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7845046 - 01/07/08 06:48 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Get a hps. If you just want to grow salvia get some shop lights. You can grow salvia indirectly under an hps but you are going to have a humidity problem there. Make them adjust to it. If you cheap out now you will end up buying something else later if you stick with it. This is an old pic of one of my sallys from under a hps. You will see that some of them have leaf curl from it. The old one doesn't. It takes time.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7845721 - 01/07/08 09:05 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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sry about the bad link heres a new one http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7810508/an/0/page/0
it sounds like most of your plants are humdity loving, so i dont think itd hurt to toss a humidifier in with them
also a question to everyone else everyone says hps but thats low spectrum and doesnt have the blues for growth that the plants need, yet ppl say that it doesnt matter. does it really make a difference at all?
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HPS all the way.
Supplement with T5 or T8 floros.. T5s are coming down in price steadily.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7846925 - 01/08/08 06:01 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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as stated above use t-8 or t-5 not LED's , also instead of asking if a t8 is a regular shop light use the search feature on your computer, i know you just want to get everything right but you are going to have to do some searching on your own just like we all did.
google
if you CANT find the answer you are looking for then ask but search first instead of asking questions that can be easily found.
also t-5 t-8 fixtures are not very heavy
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7848444 - 01/08/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Is panda a good film?
i have no idea wot that is, mylar is the best reflective material...
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Questions are, can you grow salvia outdoors in a greenhouse setting? Can you grow nicotiana tobacco in a greenhouse?
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Legoulash]
#7848988 - 01/08/08 04:51 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Rah said: HPS all the way.
Supplement with T5 or T8 floros.. T5s are coming down in price steadily.
thanks i will do that
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7850309 - 01/08/08 08:38 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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Gr33nday43 said: Could I use mylar emergency blankets?
if u mean those blankets they give people after they have run a marathon then yes, i guess so 
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They make ballasts that are compatible with both bulbs.
I own a 400w ballast that is like this. All I do is change the bulb when I change from vegetative growth to flowering.
Only extra investment is the bulb, no new wiring or anything.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7856065 - 01/09/08 08:51 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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unless your growing for money (which it doesnt sound like you are) go for MH. i always find plants under MH more..... full somehow. i usually have used panda film in the past, but have also used mylar emergency blankets. use whatevs. i mean, what, you might possibly maybe get a 2 percent increase in yield off of sally? what is that, like an extra leaf? sounds like you have the right head on your shoulders for this, good luck! legit is the way to grow!
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: impgl]
#7856700 - 01/09/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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impgl said: good luck! legit is the way to grow!
I agree 
edit: I haven't noticed anyone mention mh conversion bulbs. Do they suck or what?
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7872372 - 01/13/08 05:03 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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i do tend to use full spectrum hps bulbs, and work a lot better then those sylvania bulbs you get at home depot aka less stretch. the ballasts where you can switch between mh and hps i hear will burn out you bulb and ballast a lot quicker and the lumens will be diminished oh, and i forgot to tell you a few things. its worse to get the cheapy emergency blankets (the thin ones that they sell you inside most emergency kits, really small, fits in your pocket type shit) because when you unfold them, therell be creases all over that you wont be able to straighten out and you'll have light being reflected every which way (which will kind of defeat the purpose of it). you have to use those tarp like blankets, they cost like 7 bucks each or something. i guess it is better to use panda film imo. sorry, forgot about all that.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: impgl]
#7872378 - 01/13/08 05:09 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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one more rant ~~~> in my use with the all mighty panda.... if your going to be using a staple gun to put it up, i found its a good idea to duct tape both sides of the film at the edges because if you dont, the staples tend to rip through the film before the end of a couple of months.... very frustrating, esp. when your rooms full of plants. what i do is get like 2 - 5 feet of tape (depending on how daring i feel) and use half of the tape (long wise) to cover an edge, then, fold over to cover the other side, and to this all along the edges that ill be stapling, then take a sip of good beer, and begin initiate stapling sequence.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: impgl]
#7872379 - 01/13/08 05:11 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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impgl said: the ballasts where you can switch between mh and hps i hear will burn out you bulb and ballast a lot quicker and the lumens will be diminished
Where did you hear this bs? Do you have any refs?
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: metasin]
#7872392 - 01/13/08 05:25 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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im glad i said "i hear" lol it never fails that someone on the shroomery is ready to pounce on ya for anything. but just when i lived in the bay, i was considering getting these, and some guy at my fav hydro store told me, and after that, i went to 4 others asking the same question and they all told me the same thing. and i was just looking through old messages cause i thought magash may have said something to this extent, but i think im just trippin. ill send em a pm. but no, no refs. and im a bit busy to go searchin the net right now, i have a swing dance lesson in an hour : )
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: impgl]
#7872488 - 01/13/08 07:06 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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what about the digital ballasts that do both? the one im looking at has a soft start feature
and also which are the full spectrum hids?
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I just got a digital ballast about a month ago. I like it a lot better than my old magnetic one. Just getting rid of the buzz was a major improvement. I stepped up from a 400w magnetic to a switchable 600w digital and its quite an improvement. I need sunglasses now if I have to work under the lamp. It's a LumaTek ballast I think, it's purple and made by Hydrofarm.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: metasin]
#7873561 - 01/13/08 02:18 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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woooooord, i won a 600 light, hood, and that same ballast at the hydro con in SF this year. i didnt really have time to play with it much, but i dont think ill ever go back to mag ballasts. with that digi one, you dont even know it comes on.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: impgl]
#7873903 - 01/13/08 03:36 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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sweet, thatll be awesome cause the area im going to be setting up as a grow room is in my computer room
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7881206 - 01/14/08 11:54 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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I like metal halite for its bigger lights and better color on the plant..hps seem to give the color a less faint type of color
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7881306 - 01/15/08 12:21 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Id say mh blue spectrum for vegitive growth. I don't know much about salvia but I know weed.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7881815 - 01/15/08 05:54 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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dont go with the cheapest thing possible, it is the worst way to go . you are better off getting a quality system or even better a digital system.
the cheep systems use more power, die faster and are LOUD HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
you will spend more in power pill in the first 6 months then you would to just buy a nice system.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: royer]
#7881830 - 01/15/08 06:05 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Good choice on the mh. Hps do have some white n blue spectrum but mh has WAY more. as for those clippings...... Yummy
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Cubie]
#7881933 - 01/15/08 07:04 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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i love the look of mh.... its purdy. when im in my hps, i feel like im in back in the time of dinosaurs for some reason
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: impgl]
#7881995 - 01/15/08 07:28 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I know exactly what your talking about!!! That bright ass orangeush light... Mh is prettyer
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Cubie]
#7881999 - 01/15/08 07:30 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I had hps in my bedroom for a few months. Its crazy when you get used to that light and then you go out in the world.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Cubie]
#7882191 - 01/15/08 08:38 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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then what about the mh crossover lamps that are 4000k? they supposedly give proper spectrum for growing and blooming, but im skeptical.... anyone use these?
-------------------- And they wandered off.. nine ways till bedfast. ----- "And lets pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'cause theres bugger-all down here on earth!" -Monty Python's "The Universe Song" from The Meaning of Life "In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely considered as a bad move." -Douglas Adams "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" "If the words 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." -Terence McKenna
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7883900 - 01/15/08 03:11 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Why bother with a digi ballast and nice reflector and then cut your self short by choosing a sub standard lamp?
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7897986 - 01/18/08 04:01 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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I just got my first HID a few hours ago. Picked up an HPS ballast and lamp with an MH conversion bulb (You can find ones for cheap, $25-35ish, but cheaper = lower quality). This means the MH bulb works in a HPS ballast.
If you wanna save money, you can put together your own ballast. Google for HPS ballast kit, and for the Overgrow archives, they have step-by-step tutorials on setting it all up. It's actually pretty simple, but be sure to buy a case for the ballast if you go this route. You don't want that exposed.
Oh, and on vendors: My experience with InsideSun wasn't great. I know Mike is busy and all, and InsideSun is his side project, but the low prices aren't worth the long shipping time and piss-poor customer service. Why not delegate?
I turned off all the lights in my house, lit up the HPS. 10 minutes later, my entire house is a hideously bright orange. I actually intended to be in the same room as the light (it'll mainly be on MH, not so ugly), but even light reflected of a diffused surface is too bright.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7898156 - 01/18/08 04:33 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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well, if the grow area is enclosed, you dont have to worry about the lighting being ugly, just patch up light leaks with duct tape,so u really just have to bother with which light the plants can use more of panda film does a good job keeping light in from what ive heard
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Quote:
Gr33nday43 said: No... I'm going to get everything good. Where did the sub standard lamp thing come from?
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Gr33nday43 said: Nice. I'm going to go with a mh,
There you have it.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7898538 - 01/18/08 06:10 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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i would just use both for the hell of it, full spectrum is the best spectrum
-------------------- And they wandered off.. nine ways till bedfast. ----- "And lets pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'cause theres bugger-all down here on earth!" -Monty Python's "The Universe Song" from The Meaning of Life "In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely considered as a bad move." -Douglas Adams "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" "If the words 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." -Terence McKenna
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7899995 - 01/19/08 12:47 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Yea my mh bulbs worked in my hps ballast to
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7900735 - 01/19/08 08:21 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Hmm I'm not sure about the facts but nothing ever happend. Now I haave seen a hps explode... Not pretty. Got glass at high speeds. Thank god for the ballast
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7900803 - 01/19/08 08:50 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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I don't have üm anymore....0police busted them right in front of me
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7900848 - 01/19/08 09:09 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Yes. They didn't find plants but found the main stems of 2, 5 footers in my trash. They took..... Everyrhing about a grand of equipment and nutrients
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Cubie]
#7900935 - 01/19/08 09:55 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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Cubie said: Yes. They didn't find plants but found the main stems of 2, 5 footers in my trash. They took..... Everyrhing about a grand of equipment and nutrients
wow thats fucked up... ill have to remember to cut up my stems and bag them with other trash
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i some how didnt get any charges.. i dunno what happend really... i left that town and didnt look back.. i gave the detective my number but he neve called. i guess i got lucky
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7901357 - 01/19/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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yea. i didnt think about how scary it would actuley be till they were knocking at the door. ALWAYS be fully prepared fpr the consequences
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7901366 - 01/19/08 12:00 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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oh man..... 300 something dollers shattering in front of me
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7901409 - 01/19/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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all the stuff that they took. they just broke that one light bulb in my room. cant remember if it was my mh or hps...
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7902818 - 01/19/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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get adigital ballast then you can go either way
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: smily]
#7902823 - 01/19/08 06:20 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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5 pages...wow. I'm probably going to go digital. Hear they burn brighter and are more energy efficient.
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Re: Metal Halide or HPS? Help Please. [Re: Gr33nday43]
#7902897 - 01/19/08 06:40 PM (16 years, 13 days ago) |
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thats cause u keep bumping it lol time for this thread to die
-------------------- And they wandered off.. nine ways till bedfast. ----- "And lets pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'cause theres bugger-all down here on earth!" -Monty Python's "The Universe Song" from The Meaning of Life "In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely considered as a bad move." -Douglas Adams "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" "If the words 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." -Terence McKenna
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