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StonedPhilosophr
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a nice/interesting read
#7840865 - 01/06/08 07:10 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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[image]http:// [/image][image]http:// [/image][image]http:// [/image]"Right here and now, one quanta away, there is raging a universe of active intelligence that is transhuman, hyperdimensional, and extremely alien." Terence McKenna
DMT exists in minute quantities in your brain. Smoking n, n-dimethyltryptamine -as do Amazonian shamen ingesting DMT ayahuasca - will bring you in direct face-to-face contact with entities, spirits, intelligences, that seem very real.� Sting is perhaps one of the more well known Westerners who have tried this brew.
You see the entities as if they were real, and they are moving, swirling, communicating with you via three dimensional light fields.
This is an example of an organic DMT hyperdimensional sentient machine elf. This particular avenger elf is a spiritual meme virus, consonantly initially repeated itsElf, a Von Neumann cosmic Karma reflective generator.
The Burning Bush in the Bible was an Acacia bush, which is a source of DMT. But Moses would not have been able to experience the hyperdimensional travel since he could not have taken an MAO Inhibitor such as Syrian Rue (or did he? hmmm) And the Lord said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the Earth- Genesis 1:29
Always keep St. Augustine in mind whenever a dose of humility is needed: The arrogance of pride... the pleasures of lust...the poison of a vain curiousity...�� are the impulses of a soul that is dead.
For a somewhat more ecumenical approach to Historical Synchronicity check out James Pruitt's work.
Heeeeeeere's Jamie...
This excerpt is from an extremely intelligent Christian who synthesized what he encountered on DMT with quantum theory plus his spiritual beliefs - Jamie W..
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat : But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat it: for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the forbidden fruit contained dmt alkaloids..
"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die; For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil"
The word gods there is 'Elohim' -- the inhabitants of the spirit world those tricky dmt-elves -- they're not so innocent as they'd like you to think.... the first 'sin' was wanting to break out of the human condition -- wanting to know more about reality.
I have been doing A LOT of thinking/writing lately - here's a bit I have so far -- very strange I admit....
Reality 0.1
The universe is a Hologram. It was created by God and does not exist apart from Him. Every aspect of its form and function is continually maintained by God. It would fall to total chaos if He removed his hand for a single instant.
Everything is waves. This is the main idea that quantum mechanics is finding out. Science has so far established that the Newtonian view is dead wrong and only provides us with a working model of reality. As you look at the smaller and smaller scales of things you will never end up finding a particle that is the smallest of all and is the basic building block or atom from which reality is constructed. Instead, as you look at smaller and smaller scales you find that what were thought to be particles start to act more and more like waves. This is shown clearly in the well known double-slit experiment.
QM also postulates that the observer has some role in their outcome of an experiment. This makes no sense in a Newtonian world-view. QM experiments also seem to indicate that certain particles 'communicate' instantaneously over great distances. This is shown in the EPR experiment which measures the polarity of subatomic particles over a distance and finds that it always corresponds in a specific way even when measured at the exact same moment.
This also is impossible in a Newtonian or Einsteinian view of the world in which all communication must be bounded by the speed of light. This leads QM to postulate that there a property of reality called non-locality. That is, there is a level at which subatomic communication can take place that is free of the normal restraints of space-time-- the cosmic 'wiring under the board'. A new model of the universe is required to explain these things. A scientist named David Bohm has put forth such a model. It is the Holographic model of the universe.
�A hologram is an image made from the interaction of 2 wave forms -- one of pure laser light and one of the same laser light bounced off the object to be modeled. The result wave form is captured on film. In its raw form it looks somewhat like the interaction of water waves if you threw 2 rocks into a pond close to each other. film. When illuminated in a specific way, depending on the recording medium, a 3 dimensional image appears. This image looks extremely real. It is truly 3 dimensional. Or is it? What is really there? The 3 dimensional image or the 2-dimensional wave-form? Both are really there. It simply depends on how you want to look at it.
Another interesting and strange property of a hologram is this. If you break a hologram into 2 pieces you don't end up with half the image on one and half the image on the other. You end up with 2 copies of the same image. break it again and you get another copy. Each time you break the hologram you get another copy of the original image albeit a fuzzier one. With this in mind, consider a holographic image of a cube. Look at the piece of film and ask. "Where is the upper left hand corner of this cube"? You would point to somewhere on the upper left of the film. And, in a way, you'd be right. Now break the film into four pieces and answer again. This time you would have four 'upper-left hand corners' and the would be in places on the film corresponding to other areas of the cube just before you broke it. Holograms have a property of non-locality:
Location on a hologram is only a working concept and is really an illusion. It is dependent on how you look at it. Looking at the hologram as an image you can accurately point out any location on the image and as long as you keep the hologram in once piece, you are right. But once you realize that a hologram is actually a wave-interaction pattern and you ask the same question you must answer.
'The upper-left hand corner of the cube is everywhere on this image.' Or a better answer is 'The question isn't really valid -- Location is really an illusion and depends totally on your frame of reference.
In the book Flatland by Edwin Abbot he postulates a world that is 2 dimensional. On this world live circles and squares and lines. This world actually exists within a 3 dimensional world but that is not recognized by the inhabitants of2-land. the 2's are visited by a 3 dimensional sphere, but only see a line as the sphere passes through their world. They are unable to perceive the 3 dimensions of the sphere since they are flat.
It would take some serious science and mental gymnastics to see a point becoming a line of greater and greater length and then reducing to a point again� -- and inferring that the object was actually a sphere. Imagine a similar world - a world inside a hologram -- a hologram like the ones you see in malls and museums. Imagine someone lived in one of these.
As he looked around in his holographic world what would he see. he would see 3 dimensional images, and rightfully so. What if you could tell him that he does not really exist in 3 dimensions and that his world is actually a projection of wave forms bounced off of objects outside the hologram. his world is a projection from the outside world.
Let's call the outside world the implicate order. Without an understanding that his world is actually made up of wave forms and not the seemingly solid objects he sees, it would be impossible for holo-man to see his world in any way other than the way it appears to him.
Now let's say holo-man is a scientist and does experiments which try to look at the building blocks of his world. He would start to see some strange things. Some of his experiments like the EPR and double-slit might indicate that his world is actually made up of wave form interaction. Other experiments will seem to indicate that his world is made of particles when he is looking at it and waves when he is not.
The thing is, he sees 3-dimensional objects and articles all around him and that seems to totally contradict his experimental data which indicates that everything is actually really waves. He might then realize that he is only really seeing what he sees because it is the way his holographic-mind (remember, his entire reality is holographic therfore is is necessarily true that his mind which is made of the same stuff as everything else is holographic and functions as a hologram) interprets the wave-forms that make up the object.
What does this say about the objects he sees? Are they real? Are they simply illusion? both and neither. His world DOES exist in a specific form independent of him the observer. An apple he sees is there whether he is looking at it or not. but its appearance in intelligible form is totally dependent on his observation of it. the moment it is not observed it exists in its true form as wave.
The final situation in holo-mans world could be summed up as follows. His reality is a holographic projection from another dimension. It, like the holograms we see in our world, is filled with convincingly real 3 dimensional objects including him.
He, while living in a holographic world, is also a hologram. Everything in his world is, in its raw uninterpereted form, wave interactions like those ripples on the wave of a pond. The way the waves interact to create objects is based upon what REAL objects they are models of. The wave-form interactions are REAL but are, in reality only good facsimiles of the real,real objects.
Holomans eyes receive this raw wave data and his consciousness, which is made of waves, acts as a wave-form interpreter and actively constructs a picture of 'the world out there'. As long as his consciousness stays the same he will see a specific picture of the wave-forms that make up his world. If another holo-man entered the holo-world he would see the same thing as man 1 since a) the raw wave-form data which is his world is the same for both and exists apart from both observers. b) Both men have the same type of consciousness.
This is exactly how our world is constructed. so now I will leave the hypothetical and speak in terms of our reality.
We are holographic minds existing in a holographic universe. Everything that we see around us is, in its raw form, made up of waves. Our consciousness is also
holographic in nature. That is the reason we can create images with our minds. Our mind can interpret external raw-wave forms and create pictures of those waves into recognizable objects. It than stores those images as waves on the holographic plate that is out brain. When we recall memories we are in actuality using our wave-interpreting ability on our internal world instead of on the external world. This explains a lot about our consciousness.
1) Our memories are not stored in specific places in our brain. If you remove any part of your brain you do not remove a specific chunk of memories. Since our brain is a holographic plate, all of our memories are stored everywhere. The wave function does not have the property of location.
2) Memories can be clear or fuzzy depending upon how well the wave is imprinted on the film. Just like a hologram that has been broken many times, an image can be there but be fuzzy.
3) One memory can trigger another. Thought association. This is like a hologram with many images printed on it (like animated holograms) each 'frame' is a specific set of wave-form interactions. So recalling one memory can be like tilting the hologram in a specific way so as to reveal a second image (or memory) imprinted in a similar way as the first. Out brain has billions of 'angles' which it can be tilted. (Like a hologram on a credit card may have 5 or 6)
A normal and accurate perception of the world requires a normal consciousness.� That is, consciousness in a state created by God.
What we see in a normal state of consciousness is only a very small part of what exists. Space-time as we know it is one set of wave-forms. It is the only set of its kind. It is God's creation. There is another 'place' in reality. It is the implicate order. it is the realm from which our reality is projected. It is the spirit world. The realm of the elohim. It is the realm of angels and demons. We humans are absolutely forbidden any access to this realm which scientists today are calling the implicate order. Access is possible but forbidden.
Sorcery is the 'science' of the techniques of breaking through the hologram and interacting with the implicate order. People have been doing it since the beginning of time but God clearly forbids it.
Since our dimension is wave-forms and our consciousness is necessary to make sense of those wave forms and to formulate an accurate picture of reality, the way to break through to the implicate is by altering ones consciousness. There are man ways of doing this. Drugs are a big one, but anything that breaks down routine will work. Meditation, certain forms of dance, chanting, drumming.
Hallucinogenic drugs effect the minds wave-form interpreter. That is why LSD or Psilocybin produce distortions in external reality. What we see as reality only exists in the form that we see it because we are interpreting in a normal way, The way in which God intended us to interpret it.
Taking a hallucinogen modifies and distorts that interpretation, and it CAN cause a total breakthrough to the implicate order, the spirit world. This does not always y happen and most people that use hallucinogens never 'get there'.
There is one exception. DMT, which is one of the components of ayuasca and has been used for many years by many cultures; usually by shamans and sorcerers, when smoked in its raw form almost always causes a total break into the spirit world.
While users of LSD and Psilocybin can have many different types of experiences, those that smoke DMT have almost exact commonality of experience since what happened under its influence is not a distortion of our reality but a 'travel' to the realm of the elohim. This realm is inhabited and almost all users report seeing elves, fairies, aliens, or similar creatures. They present themselves in different ways at different times, but they are real. They are the elohim. They are demons:
Demons deceive. That is one of their main tasks. They do whatever they can to deceive as many people as the can. Satan wants to bring as many people down with him as he possibly can. He is normally restrained to methods like causing apathy and producing distractions from the truth in many forms.
I believe he and his demons are also the force behind fairies, elves, nymphs, leprechauns, aliens, and all the other creatures that exist in mythology.. present in every cultures but always just out of reach.
The grey-head aliens today are the same as the fairies of a few hundred years ago.. just an updated, culturally relevant version. They have a different form bust still serve the same purpose. They keep peoples minds off the truth. They deceive.
Sorcerers use drugs to break through to this implicate order. Once there they make contact with elohim and are sometimes granted power back in this dimension. This is not easy. It takes serious dedication.
(Editor's note: "In other words: Drink the Kool Aid! " (sorry Jamie)
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Frost
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hmmm. myess, interesting.
-------------------- “I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside.” - Rumi “The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” - Carl Sagan
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krin
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: Frost]
#7841029 - 01/06/08 07:45 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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They are elohim! They are demons! They are distractors of the Great Truth! Be wary and steadfast! Be faithful!
This is God's intention! Breakthrough to the fairie and elf order! God's hand controls the universe! His hand!!
I must prepare the solution! I have The Truth! Ingest the key to the holographic portal! Unlock the everything within the anything!
Arnech Volthk Vahl!
GraaaAAAAAAAAAhhhh!
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: krin]
#7841048 - 01/06/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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no one has proven DMT is produced by the brain.
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enesi
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: Wig]
#7841105 - 01/06/08 08:01 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
Wig said: no one has proven DMT is produced by the brain.
It's a fact that DMT occurs naturally in humans.
no one has proven WHY it is inside of us
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Sra_sephiroth0
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: enesi]
#7841508 - 01/06/08 09:33 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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nymphs exist very much back then and today when you need to get laid they are there lol. and gnome people. but anywho i think your looking into dmt way to much but you did bring up other things. oh yeah i forgot succubi tho i guess you can consider them demons. any who theres also those damn deities they are the shit and do run off the same power its bad ass when people call you the benevolent one and constantly bless you
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g00ru
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It should say 'these very real entities exist within us."
I never doubt the validity of a psychedelic contact, but I really don't think that shit is physically real outside your brain.
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emeryg89
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: g00ru]
#7842279 - 01/07/08 04:31 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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The burning bush as acacia... this is something I realized on my own... now you must also know that the olive has been a historical religious symbol for ages (as has been the acacia)... olive trees in the bark and leaves contain high levels of harmaline... it's very probable this was used by itself or in combination with other plants (possibly a DMT bearing acacia), much like the Ayahuasca (Banisteriopsis caapi) liana is used in south america. Neat, huh?
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Sra_sephiroth0
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: emeryg89]
#7843282 - 01/07/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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whats funny is when using psychedelic drugs or with out its able to contact other people know sometimes due to a certain portrayal of a person combined with never meeting them, on the other plane they might appear to use as one of set mentioned things.
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emeryg89
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True... one sees what they believe... however, shamans and cultures for ages have had relatively the same imagery for 'elves', 'gnomes', 'aliens' etc... seems it might be nearly universal.
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thedudenj
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: emeryg89]
#7847770 - 01/08/08 12:49 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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well thats why i talk so damn much about the universal mind and how its a skeleton key to the mind, kinda like a universal remote... but fuck i dont see whats so hard too grasp.
normal remote only can change channels on your tv. universal can change yours and your neighbors and some strangers. and you can change their changes while their not looking and if you are broadcasting thing really neat on a special channel then switch their stuff to it, and its so amazing they cant stop watching, well they will be mystified and will want more and if you step in a say sorry i changed your channel you needed to see that or even if you dont they will come up with they had to see it and it happened for a great reason from forces above them. its the fundamental principals of chaos magic and deityness. thats pretty much how eastern deities became tho the monotheistic view is more of the universal collective rather then focusing on who is wielding it. deities and demons get their power from the same source that being the universal collective mind and energy. or maybe im just crazy and brain wash everyone that i met into believing that without even having to say anything with some sort of Dark Madness breath, and piercing eyes of disillusion cause im just that badass, shrug unless you have another reason for pretty much everyone i met living in the same reality as a practicer of something similar to shiviaism is that there is only one reality and that is the one of the true mind and collective universal mind with pureity no matter how dark or light things appear. Pure darkness is hard to find these days just people that fake it.
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: thedudenj]
#7848067 - 01/08/08 01:51 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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As an atheist you just further backed up my stance stonedphilosophr. If your saying jesus consumed the acacia bush and IF he had an MAOI then that would mean he was tripping on DMT. It is fairly common to see entities while you are on your DMT voyage. I believe the entities met on your voyage are real to you in your brain, but anywhere outside of our brain it's just another trip. If jesus talked to God, then whose to say the people I see on a DMT voyage aren't mine and humanities gods. Just a thought. Feel free to elaborate anyone.
Azrah~
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thedudenj
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: Azrah]
#7848398 - 01/08/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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what if he was just a really badass reiki healer you dont need drugs to trip, you dont need drugs to experience all of this stuff. look at Edgar Casey or have ever its spelt he most likely wasnt on drugs and talked to spirits and all sorts of crazy shit
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  "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: thedudenj]
#7848527 - 01/08/08 03:25 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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"The Burning Bush in the Bible was an Acacia bush, which is a source of DMT. But Moses would not have been able to experience the hyperdimensional travel since he could not have taken an MAO Inhibitor such as Syrian Rue (or did he? hmmm) And the Lord said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the Earth- Genesis 1:29"
Now, that is a very interesting idea!
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KrishnaDreamer
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Re: a nice/interesting read [Re: Feanor]
#7848888 - 01/08/08 04:34 PM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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i think what mckenna was saying is that everything is made of light waves. he says how during normal human consciousness humans interpret the holograms and sees it as matter, but during the effects of hallucinogenic drug use or meditation one sees the light or waves that the matter is made up of. i believe that the higher and lower vibrations imperceivable to humans coincides with what mckenna describes as god(s) and demons/devil, they are in essence also vibrations that one interprets, which also coincides with many religions. as to the poster who says elves/fairies are in your head, i believe that it is in your head, but at the same time the vibrations exist/are existing whether you are tripping or not. i believe that when you are tripping you are effectively tuning into the vibrations that exist. while everyone is always tuned into their own certain frequency i believe tripping makes you turn the dial higher or lower. the goal of existence is to reach spiritual perfection, as i heard a quote before, which was something along the lines as "tripping is like blasting yourself with high amounts of radiation". with that said, remember kids- drugs are not toys, i am in no way advocating mind altering substances. things can go either way- up or down.
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