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OfflineSick_Of_It_All
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Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador?
    #783481 - 07/29/02 06:25 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Howdy, I got some KS, LY, PR, and EQ spore syringes from ralphster's. All of the strains are incubating and are close to done. The only strain that has gotten contamination is the EQ, and every single jar is contaminated. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing it must not have been a very sterile syringe because I did everything the same for all of the jars, all at the same time, and EQ is the only one that has gotten this Black contaminate. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem, and/or if anyone thinks the mycelium will kill off the contam or are the jars doomed?

Thanks for the help!

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Invisiblemickey_rourke
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #783484 - 07/29/02 06:29 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Jars are doomed. I tend to agree with you concerning the syringe. If you followed the same procedure for the other jars, innoculated them at the same time, and only the EQ jars are bad, I would start looking at the syringe.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #783783 - 07/29/02 09:27 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

I got my first spore syringe (eq) from ralph and it was fine. But this was like 3 or 4 months ago.

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OfflineStolichnaya
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #783784 - 07/29/02 09:28 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Hi Sick_Of_It_All, I too purchased 2 contammed syringe of Ecuador from RALPH and yes the mold was of the black variety. That was awhile ago though so I doubt it was from the same batch. In any case Ralph replaced mine and I'm sure he'll do the same for you.

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Offlinepleezr
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #783804 - 07/29/02 09:38 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Contam probs have nothing to do with a strain.


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Offlinepleezr
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Stolichnaya]
    #783805 - 07/29/02 09:39 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

What makes you so sure the syringes were contaminated? I bet it was your error.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: pleezr]
    #784078 - 07/29/02 11:54 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

Contam probs have nothing to do with a strain.




He is only relating it to a syringe because that is how he can differentiate between spore sources. Do you disagree that discrete syringes are independent of each other when it comes to contamination?


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OfflineLa_casper
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #784193 - 07/29/02 12:59 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)



here is one picture that i also posted in the contamination forum. there was 6 jars total all with the same problem.....still unsure if this is really a contamination problem or a piss problem.....

however the EQ?s were purchased from Ralph about a month ago....also at the same time there were 6 jars of Hawaiians made, also from Ralph and they are great.....all 12 were done using the same tek. So this is why i THINK it might have been a syringe problem..

i did not contact Ralph over this. I am a newbie and am not gonna cry about it. It was only one syringe!
Just letting know my story.

Yes i would use Ralph again.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: La_casper]
    #784199 - 07/29/02 01:01 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like contamination to me, but it's difficult to ID with that pic.


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OfflineLa_casper
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #784201 - 07/29/02 01:02 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Well all 6 jars of EQ were scraped.....

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: La_casper]
    #784208 - 07/29/02 01:05 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

That's what I would have done.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #784252 - 07/29/02 01:25 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Cut off some of the good myclieum and stick that into some new jars. They will go faster b/c the spores dont have to germinate. Just dont get a piece around the black mold part though.

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Offlinepleezr
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #784388 - 07/29/02 02:23 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

He is only relating it to a syringe because that is how he can differentiate between spore sources. Do you disagree that discrete syringes are independent of each other when it comes to contamination?


heh, your question has nothing to do with my statement. So why do you ask? If you read the subject of the thread you can see my meaning. Do you disagree with me? Are some strains more likely to contam? It was human error.

BTW, you retaliating because I quoted you earlier? Seems so, either way that is fine with me, have at it...


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: pleezr]
    #784406 - 07/29/02 02:28 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

This doesn't have to be a pissing contest. I was just responding to your assumption that it was his error. Also, the question I asked was independent of your question -- it was to satisfy my curiosity.


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Offlinepleezr
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #784432 - 07/29/02 02:44 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Sure it does! I can piss really far and write my name. Lets have a pissing contest. I like drinkin', pukin', pissin' and fightin'!


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OfflineLa_casper
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #784596 - 07/29/02 04:01 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

// turns around and walks back out of post

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OfflineKingBolete
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: La_casper]
    #784775 - 07/29/02 05:19 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Hey there,

Did you scrap them to the outside tek or the trashcan tek?

Best regards,

KingBolete

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #784814 - 07/29/02 05:33 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I had the exact same problem. I also ordered from Ralphster's. Every strain but the EQ's I got are going GREAT, but the EQ all got black pin mold?!?! I also thought this was my error, but since I saw this post and I also know of one other person on the board that had the exact same problem (same strain / same contam / same vendor)

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Offlinejonnyshaggs420
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #784841 - 07/29/02 05:47 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I have noticed this with a few of Ralph's syringes. The latest with a Pan. Cyan. syringe. Although its not horribly frequent its annoying. I can chalk it up to the syringe itself because 12 jars were innoculated with 4 different syringes, two from Vendor1, 1 from Ralph, and 1 from Vendor2. Each syringe had 3 jars of rye prepared at the same time in the same manner. All three of the jars from ralph's syringe have a black mildew. The other 9 jars are doing perfectly fine.

But this can't all be pushed on Ralph as having bad sterility measures. I have actually gotten quite a few contamed syringes from Vendor1 aswell. But out of probably 10 from ralph and 12 from Vendor2, I got 2 bads from ralph and like 5 from Vendor2(usually bacteria and cobweb).

Sometimes a single batch can go bad, and without rigoruous quality control bad syringes can slip out to customers. For those of you that have bad ones contact ralph and I'm sure he'll make good!


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InvisibleDemon53
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #784896 - 07/29/02 06:10 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

My personal experiences with EQ strain:

This is my first time growing, and I bought 1 EQ strain syringe from www.sporeworks.com and had 100% success rate with my 10 jars. None of them were contaminated (and I am very happy/proud of this, since it was my first attempt )

- Demon53

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