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Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad
#7840241 - 01/06/08 04:05 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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 At a press conference in front of Rudy Giuliani’s Manchester headquarters this morning with a massive mobile truck billboard in tow, a representative of the Marijuana Policy Project joined two New Hampshire patients to challenge presidential candidates Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Mitt Romney to back up their statements regarding medical marijuana with scientific evidence, offering the legal maximum $10,000 campaign contribution to any of the three who can prove that their statements are true.
“In response to questions from patients who have benefited from medical marijuana, these candidates have made claims that are flat-out false,” said MPP executive director Rob Kampia. “Since appeals to science, compassion and common sense haven’t worked, we’re talking to them in a language we know they understand — campaign contributions. If Giuliani, Romney or McCain can back up their claims that medical marijuana isn’t needed or is too dangerous, we’ll give their campaign $10,000, but if they can’t, they need to stop lying.”
Any responses from the campaigns will be evaluated by an independent panel of medical experts. An image of the billboard along with full details of the challenge and relevant scientific data are posted at www.medicalmarijuanaworks.org.
“I’m sick of the lies,” said Clayton Holton, who is disabled by muscular dystrophy and who was snubbed by Romney in video footage widely seen on CNN and YouTube. “If our politicians are going to withhold my medical treatment from me, something that’s considered torture to do to our enemies in battle, then for the sake of all sick Americans, they better be able to prove that it’s necessary, with evidence and not just with words.”
In responses to questions posed by New Hampshire voters at campaign events, all three leading Republicans have claimed that marijuana is either too dangerous for medical use or not needed because adequate substitutes exist — claims that are contradicted by published scientific data. In letters being delivered today to each of the three candidates, Kampia cited their specific statements and challenged them to supply proof. In his letter to Giuliani, Kampia wrote:
“We find it notable that you dismiss marijuana as too dangerous for medical use, while your law firm represented Purdue Pharma — the makers of the highly addictive and toxic opioid OxyContin — given that the company paid $634.5 million in fines and penalties for misleading doctors and patients about the drug’s abuse potential, and given that a growing body of evidence suggests that medical marijuana can reduce the use of such highly addictive opioid painkillers.”
The billboard will accompany MPP’s Stuart Cooper this afternoon as he delivers letters from Kampia to the McCain and Romney headquarters in Manchester. A visit to Romney’s national headquarters in Boston is planned for Friday. Further events with the Pinocchio billboard in New Hampshire and other primary or caucus states are expected.
http://www.newsli.com/2007/12/06/giuliani-romney-mccain-offered-10000-to-prove-statements-on-medical-marijuana/
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Re: Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad [Re: Coaster]
#7840586 - 01/06/08 05:38 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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all three leading Republicans have claimed that marijuana is either too dangerous for medical use or not needed because adequate substitutes exist
When people say pot's dangerous it makes me want to laugh. Over 1000 people die every day in this country from tobacco related illness and marijuana is dangerous. Go figure?
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Re: Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad [Re: allreadyused]
#7840643 - 01/06/08 05:51 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Before people chime in and say this is a farce and a publicity stunt, let me say "no shit"
But it is good to put them on the spot, imo. Whether or not anyone will care is secondary.
The argument that marijuana is 1. More difficult to accuratly dose and prescribe, and 2. Is an impure formulation presumably inferior to a known formulation with healthier methods of ingestion
are both correct. But that doesn't mean that what we have now: Marijuana and various extracts avaialable elsewhere via spray, isn't helpful- clearly it is, no one can deny this.
The only issue is that marijuana isn't the best method of delivery or formulation, most likely.
1. So what? People and doctors should have this avialable to them. Laudanum is still available, still approved for use, and yet we've isolated natural and semi-synthetics w/ percise concentrations for some time now.... doctors can make the decision w/ patients like usual.
2. Marijuana IS available now. It would have been silly to say to folks in the 17th century "sorry, laudanum is an impure unknown drug... wait till the day when we isolate and quantify the active components" while they are in pain NOW. Same as with marijuana, the only available formulation is THC, which has drawbacks. But even so, why shouldn't doctors have the freedom to follow the science to what is appropriate? WHy shouldn't patients have the freedom to seek what they wish for their treatment.
(note: I feel the somewhat-credible fact that questionable patients are being given marijuana is irrelevant. This is a state issue, and they can tighten or strengthen marijuana recomendation rules as appropriate.)
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Re: Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad [Re: johnm214]
#7840775 - 01/06/08 06:35 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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dood i wish Irv Rosenfeld would go see them he gets 20 ounces a month from the federal marijuana program
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Re: Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad [Re: Coaster]
#7840823 - 01/06/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Rosenfeld proves nothing... they've done no followups on those guys, from what I've seen, and the n=small
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Re: Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad [Re: johnm214]
#7840850 - 01/06/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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so mccain said there is no medical value wutsoever then y is the government giving this guy so much weed
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Re: Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad [Re: Coaster]
#7840877 - 01/06/08 07:12 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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why does the government do anything? they were nice enough not to can his ass, which I'm surprised at, but whatever... I'd be surprised if even McCain believes what you said, maybe he really is that daft though
maybe you could write up a paper on Rosenfeld and submit it for publication though:
http://www.jir.com/home.html
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Re: Giuliani, Romney, McCain offered $10K to prove weed is bad [Re: johnm214]
#7841100 - 01/06/08 08:00 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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mccain is fuckin daft and ya thats so stupid we undermine the system we go illegal immigrants laws that say they paid minimum wage we raid clinics that are standing under state law and we give ppl like irv weed lol
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