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contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics)
#7838236 - 01/06/08 05:10 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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hey out there, I think I need some more help from you. this is my first grow. the strain is amazonian. they startet pinning on monday. it took 3 weeks for them to pin, probably due to too less light. the cake next to the one with the shrooms has these little white dots on it.


is this ok? and the mushrooms themselves look funny too, don' you think?


what about these black regions on the caps? has anyone ever seen something like that? the surface of the caps is smooth though. one mushroom got little white dots on the cap.
 I would really appreciate any kind of help! thank you!
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: q pasa]
#7838244 - 01/06/08 05:30 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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wtf is that black swirley deal ? looks like a cookie ! lol sorry for the lack of anything useful to impart ! im a noob too .. lol
just to throw it out there .. the uppermost pic looks like overrun mycelium which means ur temp is too high .. the swirley deal could be a mutation caused by the same thing .. pls dont take anything i say as the gospel though !
Edited by RoYaL_fLuSh (01/06/08 05:33 AM)
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838247 - 01/06/08 05:33 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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black on the cap is spores I believe.
and the cap with white "dots", is probably due to low humidity.
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: JusListen]
#7838250 - 01/06/08 05:35 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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JusListen said: black on the cap is spores I believe.
and the cap with white "dots", is probably due to low humidity.
spores on TOP of the cap ??? hmmmmm
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838251 - 01/06/08 05:38 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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JusListen said: black on the cap is spores I believe.
and the cap with white "dots", is probably due to low humidity.
spores on TOP of the cap ??? hmmmmm
Yes, the black stuff looks just like spores. Was there a bigger shroom over those until you picked it?
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838252 - 01/06/08 05:39 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Yes, spores can easily make there way above the mushrooms landing on the cap.
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838254 - 01/06/08 05:39 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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The Black "swirley" looks to be spore deposits from surrounding fruit bodies. If they are around other cakes that have mushrooms growing they will get "spored upon". The white spots does look to be contamination of sorts. I've seen it before, but I'm not sure what it's called. This thread should be posted in the contamination forum. You will probably get a more precise answer there.
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838255 - 01/06/08 05:39 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf is that black swirley deal ? looks like a cookie ! lol sorry for the lack of anything useful to impart ! im a noob too .. lol
just to throw it out there .. the uppermost pic looks like overrun mycelium which means ur temp is too high .. the swirley deal could be a mutation caused by the same thing .. pls dont take anything i say as the gospel though !
Please don't make shit up. If you don't know the answer, sit back and wait for somebody else, so you can both learn. RR
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838257 - 01/06/08 05:41 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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The black stuff is spores that came from another mushroom. You can simply whipe them of, though that wouldn't be neseccary.
In my opinion thy look just fine!
BTW: What strain is this? Nice meaty fruits
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7838263 - 01/06/08 05:48 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf is that black swirley deal ? looks like a cookie ! lol sorry for the lack of anything useful to impart ! im a noob too .. lol
just to throw it out there .. the uppermost pic looks like overrun mycelium which means ur temp is too high .. the swirley deal could be a mutation caused by the same thing .. pls dont take anything i say as the gospel though !
Please don't make shit up. If you don't know the answer, sit back and wait for somebody else, so you can both learn. RR
my comment came with a disclaimer of ignorance from the jump with choice words like looks and could , not is .. u the fukkin post police or something ? from what ive seen that top cake looks exactly as i said and would also explain the slow fruiting .. just cos im new dont mean i cant read information and compare examples and certainly doesnt mean i have to listen to anything u fukkin try to tell me ...
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838266 - 01/06/08 05:50 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf is that black swirley deal ? looks like a cookie ! lol sorry for the lack of anything useful to impart ! im a noob too .. lol
just to throw it out there .. the uppermost pic looks like overrun mycelium which means ur temp is too high .. the swirley deal could be a mutation caused by the same thing .. pls dont take anything i say as the gospel though !
Please don't make shit up. If you don't know the answer, sit back and wait for somebody else, so you can both learn. RR
my comment came with a disclaimer of ignorance from the jump with choice words like looks and could , not is .. u the fukkin post police or something ? from what ive seen that top cake looks exactly as i said and would also explain the slow fruiting .. just cos im new dont mean i cant read information and compare examples and certainly doesnt mean i have to listen to anything u fukkin try to tell me ...
He is the post police. He is a forum moderator
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: Nibin]
#7838269 - 01/06/08 05:54 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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no theres no bigger mushroom around. only the one with the wite dots on it is kind of concave. could have lost spores? on top of bigger ones? should I harvest them now?? thank you!
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: Nibin]
#7838270 - 01/06/08 05:55 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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RoYaL_fLuSh said:
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RogerRabbit said:
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf is that black swirley deal ? looks like a cookie ! lol sorry for the lack of anything useful to impart ! im a noob too .. lol
just to throw it out there .. the uppermost pic looks like overrun mycelium which means ur temp is too high .. the swirley deal could be a mutation caused by the same thing .. pls dont take anything i say as the gospel though !
Please don't make shit up. If you don't know the answer, sit back and wait for somebody else, so you can both learn. RR
my comment came with a disclaimer of ignorance from the jump with choice words like looks and could , not is .. u the fukkin post police or something ? from what ive seen that top cake looks exactly as i said and would also explain the slow fruiting .. just cos im new dont mean i cant read information and compare examples and certainly doesnt mean i have to listen to anything u fukkin try to tell me ...
He is the post police. He is a forum moderator
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: The shroomy 1]
#7838279 - 01/06/08 06:00 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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not really i knew his title .. i meant figuratively .. can delete this account , block my posts , i really dont give a chit lol i just got a problem with ppl policing ANYTHING in general , much less a thread open to discussion
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838282 - 01/06/08 06:02 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Well he also happens to be one of the most experienced growers on here and the author of the let's grow mushrooms DVD.
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: Nibin]
#7838288 - 01/06/08 06:10 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Nibin said: Well he also happens to be one of the most experienced growers on here and the author of the let's grow mushrooms DVD.
thats great , and well commendable .. still dont mean he can snap off at me for discussing a topic nor tell me wtf i can and cant say .. are even the shroomers going commie now ?
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838330 - 01/06/08 06:45 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf is that black swirley deal ? looks like a cookie ! lol sorry for the lack of anything useful to impart ! im a noob too .. lol
just to throw it out there .. the uppermost pic looks like overrun mycelium which means ur temp is too high .. the swirley deal could be a mutation caused by the same thing .. pls dont take anything i say as the gospel though !
He can still tell you to stop posting crap which that post was as:
A) the black stuff is classic spore presentation and if you had had a single spore drop you would have recognized it.
B) Overrun Mycelium? WTF is that? Do you mean overlay? That only applies to casings
C) A few degrees extra heat causes mutations? Where did you get that from.
If you don't have experience you shouldn't be giving advice, even if you say you are a n00b.
If you went to a mechanics forum and asked about a wheel that has no air, would you like a self confessed mechanics n00b to tell you about rubber warping, temperature related fractures and air composition (which would probably all be a load of rubbish) or an experienced user to tell you to check for the nail that has punctured your tyre?
If someone has a question you can't make up a load of stuff to answer them and then shield yourself behind the fact you are a nOOb. Just wait for a good answer and learn from it for next time.
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838343 - 01/06/08 06:56 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Although you claimed not be taken "as the expert",(which I really appreciate) RR just tried to prevent certain threads to be loaded with falls information, someone who isn't as experienced takes for a word!
You said it yourself: You're a noob. And therefore it's pretty likely you know very much about mushrooms. Beside the fact that RR is what you call a REAL expert in these concerns, he also tries to keep the forums clean. Clean from aggressions in any way etc.
You can't expect a community you just joined to play by your rules! YOU are the one that has to accommodate! And if someone who's one of "leading chief's" of this site, tells you to be so kind and NOT to tell people information you're not sure of, then, I guess, you have to except it. You can complain about it, but not like this!
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: Fahkface]
#7838378 - 01/06/08 07:24 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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reading over what he said again it doesnt seem quite as bad as it initially did ( though shit could have been less aggressively substituted with 'stuff' for sure ) (why not a private message asking me to rescind it ? ) it wasnt advice i was giving anyway as nibin wrongfully accused me of it was a simple observation , erroneous or not , no more no less and also attatched with my saying it is only an observation by someone inexperienced .. anyone stupid enough to take such words and act upon them after saying such is more of an idiot than the observationist anyway .. and all this high chieftan hippie patriarch bullchit can fuk right off cos in this world we are all equal and i dont heed to it .. im not some little shroomer groupie that has to kiss ne 1 of these mfers azzes , i can search too , just too lazy at times ... so advise me not i dont care .. i wont be on here long enough ne way .. how someone can do so and remain unbusted for illegal activity worries me anyhow .. and yes i wonder about some of these so called chieftans with the horseshoe up their azzes in regards to the fuzz .. especially power-trippin ones
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838381 - 01/06/08 07:27 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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the strain is amazonian @fahkface! should I harvest them now???
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: Fahkface]
#7838386 - 01/06/08 07:37 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: q pasa]
#7838404 - 01/06/08 07:50 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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q pasa said: the strain is amazonian @fahkface! should I harvest them now???
Yeah, its usually good to harvest before the cap deposits its spores.
I usually pick before the viel breaks.
go for it bro! enjoy!!!
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: The shroomy 1]
#7838462 - 01/06/08 08:35 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said:
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Nibin said:
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RoYaL_fLuSh said:
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RogerRabbit said:
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RoYaL_fLuSh said: wtf is that black swirley deal ? looks like a cookie ! lol sorry for the lack of anything useful to impart ! im a noob too .. lol
just to throw it out there .. the uppermost pic looks like overrun mycelium which means ur temp is too high .. the swirley deal could be a mutation caused by the same thing .. pls dont take anything i say as the gospel though !
Please don't make shit up. If you don't know the answer, sit back and wait for somebody else, so you can both learn. RR
my comment came with a disclaimer of ignorance from the jump with choice words like looks and could , not is .. u the fukkin post police or something ? from what ive seen that top cake looks exactly as i said and would also explain the slow fruiting .. just cos im new dont mean i cant read information and compare examples and certainly doesnt mean i have to listen to anything u fukkin try to tell me ...
He is the post police. He is a forum moderator
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: q pasa]
#7838467 - 01/06/08 08:39 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Man, I'm lookin' forward to the Amazons I've just cased 
And yes, I'd say, harvest them now. They're big enough and will probably give some good prints and a nice trip 
And@Royal_Flush
Like in every "society" that crossed the line of a certain amount of members, there HAS to somebody, to take care, that everything is going the right way. Not just in a way of behaviour to each other, but also in a technical way.
RR and several others are so nice, to keep this place running while all of can use it for free, to do what we like.
You seem not to give a shit about others in these forums, since you behave quiet aggressively and don't even take the time, to search the forums for things you're interested in.
You accuse of being assholes for reacting in this, while people like you, or at least people who behave like you, are the reason for these guys to actually HAVE to react that way. This site is not just for you, but for all of us, and therefore we have to read and post side by side, without fighting each other. If you're pissed about RR's reaction, open a thread in the OTD and hate there. The cultivation forum, as well as all other mushroom related forums should be a base of knowledge and learning and not of hatred and
To speak for myself, I wouldn't have bothered about your post. Well, others do. So what? There's absolutely NO need of becoming that pissy!
And yes, you're right, in value we're all equal but not in knowledge! In mushroom concerns people who gathered an ass load of experience over the time are NOT equal to. They know a lot more about that stuff, which doesn't mean you have to like everything they say, or do, but to pay at least as much respect to them, as it need, that you don't react the way you did. If want to learn anything, you have to do like everyone else!
Once again, we're all arguing about something that is NEVER ever worth of bothering about (and so do I...) and over that we ruined the thread of someone who actually did want to know something.
I think we should simply get back to the questions he had and stop "fighting"...
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: JusListen]
#7838470 - 01/06/08 08:42 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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q pasa said: the strain is amazonian @fahkface! should I harvest them now???
Yeah, its usually good to harvest before the cap deposits its spores.
I usually pick before the veil breaks.
go for it bro! enjoy!!!
Well, it just depends on what you'd like to do with the fruits.
When you just want to harvest them, for consuming them, there's no need, to let them grow beyond veil opening.
If you want to study them in all their beauty and eventually want to take a spore print or two, you have to wait, until they're fully matured
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: RoYaL_fLuSh]
#7838476 - 01/06/08 08:47 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Nibin said: Well he also happens to be one of the most experienced growers on here and the author of the let's grow mushrooms DVD.
thats great , and well commendable .. still dont mean he can snap off at me for discussing a topic nor tell me wtf i can and cant say .. are even the shroomers going commie now ?
shame, shame, shame, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!!!
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: q pasa]
#7838868 - 01/06/08 11:08 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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pick them right before the veil is about to break
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Re: contamination?? ready to harvest?? (pics) [Re: stinkbuttdog]
#7844621 - 01/07/08 05:19 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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stinkbuttdog said:
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RoYaL_fLuSh said:
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Nibin said: Well he also happens to be one of the most experienced growers on here and the author of the let's grow mushrooms DVD.
thats great , and well commendable .. still dont mean he can snap off at me for discussing a topic nor tell me wtf i can and cant say .. are even the shroomers going commie now ?
shame, shame, shame, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!!!
LMFAO
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