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Offlineeaglenature
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Why do you do drugs?
    #7838198 - 01/06/08 04:12 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I searched the forum, surprisingly couldn't find anything like this.

So here's my question.

Why do you shroom/do other drugs? Is it for spiritual growth? Mental health/depression? For fun/for the hell of it? For creative inspiration?

To put this in perspective, why do you prefer using drugs like shrooms instead of being sober all the time? Why not be "straight edge"?

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not against most drugs besides meth, heroin etc, I just thought it would be interesting to see some people's answers.

For me personally, drugs are the most interesting thing to do at this point in my life (school). I find it fascinating being able to see "firsthand" what the human mind/body is really capable of, but mostly it is a matter of having fun (esp. weed), good times and new perspectives on life and its many wonders. I also smoke weed and write music for my band, and sometimes I paint for fun, so I guess it serves as a creative inspiration and all that as well.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7838209 - 01/06/08 04:32 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do drugs to open my mind. I am who i am today cause of what i've done. Sometime you need alittle help from drugs to let you see things you don't normally see and think in a different point of view.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7838211 - 01/06/08 04:32 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Well first of all I would like to say that I don't consider psychedelics "drugs" and they are the only "drugs" I like to do.
The reason that I do them is for mind expansion/spirituality. They provide a different perspective on things and some things about them simply have to be experienced in order to be understood. This is true with DMT especially, which would probably be my "drug" of choice if I ever had one. Anyone who has smoked DMT will tell you that the experience is impossible to describe, words simply lack meaning and cannot capture the essence of the experience. It's like trying to describe the color red to someone who is blind - you could try all you want to talking about wavelengths and frequencies and whatnot, but all it would take for that person is a single look at the actual color to understand more than you could ever describe. That is what tripping on DMT is like, as well as some other psychedelics, although it is harder to reach that point with anything else.

So there, that's why I do "drugs".


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7838216 - 01/06/08 04:38 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do drugs to get high and feel good lulz

Exploration of the mind is nice too.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: implee]
    #7838220 - 01/06/08 04:45 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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implee said:
I do drugs to get high and feel good lulz




Same. E's great, 'Shrooms are fun, pot is pot, alcohol is social, any other drugs...whatever, I don't do 'em.

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bloodbrother778 said:
Well first of all I would like to say that I don't consider psychedelics "drugs" and they are the only "drugs" I like to do.

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So there, that's why I do "drugs".




Why do you put drugs in quotes as if LSD, Shrooms, or DMT aren't drugs? Are you also one of those people who claims cannabis isn't a drug because it's a plant?


Edited by Wig (01/06/08 04:47 AM)


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Wig]
    #7838223 - 01/06/08 04:49 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

so i can be more creative


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Coaster]
    #7838353 - 01/06/08 07:04 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I take drugs because I am figuring out how everything works so I can give this information to humanity before I die so that they might save themselves with it. "They know not what they do", after all.

I mean... theoretically... you could figure out everything without taking drugs. Of course you can. That's the nature of everything. But that's going to be fucking hard, or just take a long ass time, which can still be considered hard because you have to try and somehow maintain your shit through that entire length of time.

Drugs have helped me accelerate the process so that I might figure it out faster and faster and hopefully have time to help ALL YOU
(obviously not all of you here at the shroomery) FUCKING PEOPLE KILLING YOURSELVES before I ding-dong-die.

They might not even have accelerated the process, they might even be slowing it down. My DNA may already have in it this process running at these speeds. Of course there's no way to tell that now.

I take droogs to save the world. To save YOU from YOU.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7838385 - 01/06/08 07:35 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

to be cool


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Wig]
    #7838410 - 01/06/08 07:54 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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implee said:

Why do you put drugs in quotes as if LSD, Shrooms, or DMT aren't drugs? Are you also one of those people who claims cannabis isn't a drug because it's a plant?




I put it in quotes because I don't like the stupid label that the government puts on them. I don't put psychedelics in the same category as any of the shitty drugs. By my definition a drug has to be something that is addictive and or harmful to your body, and most psychedelics aren't either of those things. I can tell you right now that DMT is not a drug, it's a neurotransmitter that your brain naturally makes......how they made it a schedule 1 drug is beyond me.
Yes I understand that these are substances that change your perception, but why do we have to label them as drugs? I mean if you're releasing DMT in your sleep or meditation are you doing drugs also?....then perhaps we should all be arrested right now for our brains making an illegal "drug". And then what about cigarettes or alcohol? They aren't illegal, but they do alter your perception also - do you not label them as drugs because the government tells you they aren't? Even though they cause more deaths than all of the illegal drugs combined.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7838416 - 01/06/08 07:58 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

because they make life more interesting.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7838435 - 01/06/08 08:12 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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bloodbrother778 said:

By my definition a drug has to be something that is addictive and or harmful to your body, and most psychedelics aren't either of those things. I can tell you right now that DMT is not a drug, it's a neurotransmitter that your brain naturally makes......how they made it a schedule 1 drug is beyond me.
Yes I understand that these are substances that change your perception, but why do we have to label them as drugs? I mean if you're releasing DMT in your sleep or meditation are you doing drugs also?....then perhaps we should all be arrested right now for our brains making an illegal "drug". And then what about cigarettes or alcohol? They aren't illegal, but they do alter your perception also - do you not label them as drugs because the government tells you they aren't? Even though they cause more deaths than all of the illegal drugs combined.




Man, I could come up with a nifty post like I usually do to point out the flaws in your argument so that you might see them and better arm yourself. But I just smoked and am starting to nod out from some tabs, so I'm just going to get right to the point without typing up a working example.

What you're thinking inside your head and feeling inside your body while you typed that is very noble. That part of it is not wrong. We all, maybe not all, but most of us feel the same way you do.

I just want to tell you, because I agree with you and want you to be able to better defend yourself if that's the stance you're going to have, is that there are a good number of structural flaws in what you typed. Someone who is on the other side of the fence would beat you in a debate if that's all you were going to say.

I'm not trying to be mean at all. I was there too.

I don't know how old you are and I don't know what you have and haven't experienced. I am not insulting you AT ALL. Pretend you are 30 years older and read what you've said.

Some of it is good.

I don't want to hijack this thread so I'm done for now.


Edited by Ell Ess Bree (01/06/08 08:13 AM)


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7838490 - 01/06/08 08:54 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I use drugs as entertainment/recreation.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7838685 - 01/06/08 10:17 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

eaglenature said:

Why do you shroom/do other drugs? Is it for spiritual growth? Mental health/depression? For fun/for the hell of it? For creative inspiration?




I use them for relaxation, to feal good while enjoying other things, and for mind expansion. If all drugs suddenly disappeared I would continue on and enjoy life as usual. I would probably go back to meditating. Meditating enough opens you up the same way as many psychedelics anyway only not as quickly.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mother_of_pearl]
    #7838813 - 01/06/08 10:49 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I use drugs to think outside the box,

I also use them as a self medication to treat my bipolar and severe panic disorder:werd:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: why_not_me]
    #7838825 - 01/06/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

They are enjoyable in all aspects of the word.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mother_of_pearl]
    #7838826 - 01/06/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Why do you shroom/do other drugs? Is it for spiritual growth? Mental health/depression? For fun/for the hell of it? For creative inspiration?




I use psychedelics mainly for spiritual/mental health preventative maintenance. Shrooms/Cactus is a good way to view your live in a third perspective which can really help one to understand their actions.

I don't use speed type drugs (cocaine/meth/caffeine) regularly anymore, several years ago they were a habit. But now I find I use them maybe once a year if that just for the fun of it.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: FlusH]
    #7838960 - 01/06/08 11:41 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Why not?









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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #7838968 - 01/06/08 11:44 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Drug: a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7838986 - 01/06/08 11:50 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Because all the cool kids are doing it.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7839000 - 01/06/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Because I enjoy doing them.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7839003 - 01/06/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

it's a way to relax and a way to explore.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7839029 - 01/06/08 12:04 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

LSD, Mushrooms, Cacti, DMT, Yopo, and Ayahuasca = Mind expansion and religion.



Weed = Fun/Social/Enhancing above ones



But I don't like to call these gifts drugs, I view drugs as substances that cause damage to your body such as alcohol or cocaine.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #7839065 - 01/06/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Hmmmm lets see I do drugs for many reason. I been lying to myself and caught myself a couple of months ago. I use to say I always did it for spirituality, but there has been many times where I used them recreationally with friends. The main reasons I now know why I do drugs is a new perception on life, recreational use, spirituality, and mind expansion.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7839094 - 01/06/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do drugs because they are fun and interesting. It's like making a painting out of my mind. Fun mainly. MAN are they fun.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: handicappedrat]
    #7839117 - 01/06/08 12:39 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Different reasons behind different drugs, but what unites 'em all is to have fun and to enjoy myself.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7839130 - 01/06/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Quote:

Ell Ess Bree said:
Someone who is on the other side of the fence would beat you in a debate if that's all you were going to say.







I'm not interested in a debate, I know that someone from the other side would not be able to understand what I was saying without the experiences I've had. Those are simply my views, I didn't say that the things I'm talking about aren't drugs, I just don't view them as such. I've stopped debating a while back after my first DMT experience, because I've realized that in order to truly understand me and not subject what I say to their own rationalizations/bullshit people would need to experience that as well, and the ones that have experienced it would already know what I know so there would be no point in telling them anything. I don't mean that everyone who smoked DMT will think that it's not a drug, those are just my opinions

Also, what exactly is so wrong with what I said, aside from my PERSONAL definition of drug, everything else is completely true.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7839153 - 01/06/08 12:47 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

you have to interpret it as the government giving a bad connotation to the word drugs rather than the word drugs giving bad connotation to the substance. makes more sense that way. the word drugs isn't bad. the government makes it bad.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: THEBats]
    #7839461 - 01/06/08 01:39 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I believe that psychoactive substances are tools used for healing and learning. They have been used  for centuries by the indigenous tribes of the world. When you say drugs I think of pharmaceuticals or hard street drug like crack or meth.

I quote my childhood friend.

"Out of ignorance I used cocaine and heroin. At first it was all fun. After awhile I found myself in a downward spiral. Every one I knew moved on with life and I found my self tired, sick and alone in my personal hell."

As a kid my friend and I would pass by the homeless junkies in the streets. Who thought that one day he would be one him self.

Sorry If this sounded a bit preachy but that is the reality of drugs.

Stick to the psycho-actives!  :pinkshroom:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7839600 - 01/06/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do drugs to open my mind, relax and just have fun.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: marz13]
    #7839792 - 01/06/08 02:34 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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I believe that psychoactive substances are tools used for healing and learning. They have been used  for centuries by the indigenous tribes of the world. When you say drugs I think of pharmaceuticals or hard street drug like crack or meth.

I quote my childhood friend.

"Out of ignorance I used cocaine and heroin. At first it was all fun. After awhile I found myself in a downward spiral. Every one I knew moved on with life and I found my self tired, sick and alone in my personal hell."

As a kid my friend and I would pass by the homeless junkies in the streets. Who thought that one day he would be one him self.

Sorry If this sounded a bit preachy but that is the reality of drugs.

Stick to the psycho-actives!  :pinkshroom:



lol....all drugs are psychoactive. And a lot more stuff that isn't considered as drugs are psychoactive as well.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7839841 - 01/06/08 02:42 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I get high on drugs because drugs make me feel good. I mostly like downers. I thought I used to like psychedellics, but realize now that I have never liked them.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: TODAY]
    #7839949 - 01/06/08 02:56 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do drugs because I think that you can't really see your life with true objectivity from the sober state.  I think that living a life without ever artificially altering your perception would be a tragedy.

Plus ah liek weed b/c it maeks me fell gud. :getstoned:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: g00ru]
    #7840052 - 01/06/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

i do em cause i can get my grubby hands on em

i never searched for weed coke or alcohol but they were present so it was a why not kinda things...actually that didnt even cross my mind more of a ...???

e on the other hand i despised but i was pretty curious as to why peoploe would mess with it if it was so "bad," then i messed with it again and knew what was in it was def bad for "me"

shrooms i searched for, cid i have the means but not the time and with salvia as well, DMT'd be crazy but im not even gettin my hopes up for that one

then after the fact of doin them i deem them spiritual/helpful


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: g00ru]
    #7840066 - 01/06/08 03:18 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

mind candy

is it bad for your mental teeth?

the yearning for sweetness.

well IMO that's where light doses of psychedelic comes in.

just plain good whenever it can be fit in to the schedule.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Individual]
    #7840074 - 01/06/08 03:19 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I mean entheogens.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: marz13]
    #7840083 - 01/06/08 03:21 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

to expand my reality and creativity


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7840109 - 01/06/08 03:26 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

i was always scared that i would die and would have never seen anything that cant be explained or i would realize that everything IS really how it looks/seems. so i guess i just wanted to prove that there is more out there than it seems. and i like the different form of creativeness, drawing/writing.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7840140 - 01/06/08 03:34 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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mind candy

is it bad for your mental teeth?

the yearning for sweetness.

well IMO that's where light doses of psychedelic comes in.

just plain good whenever it can be fit in to the schedule.




Well said, man.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7840438 - 01/06/08 05:01 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I understand my body as merely a machine, or vessel that I control. I see these drugs as a means to alter my waking state of consciousness as I see fit, but within the rules delegated by the effects of the drug.


So, for a wide variety of reasons, but never leaving out the fact that they are fun..


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7840553 - 01/06/08 05:30 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Why do you put drugs in quotes as if LSD, Shrooms, or DMT aren't drugs? Are you also one of those people who claims cannabis isn't a drug because it's a plant?




I put it in quotes because I don't like the stupid label that the government puts on them. I don't put psychedelics in the same category as any of the shitty drugs. By my definition a drug has to be something that is addictive and or harmful to your body, and most psychedelics aren't either of those things. I can tell you right now that DMT is not a drug, it's a neurotransmitter that your brain naturally makes......how they made it a schedule 1 drug is beyond me.
Yes I understand that these are substances that change your perception, but why do we have to label them as drugs? I mean if you're releasing DMT in your sleep or meditation are you doing drugs also?....then perhaps we should all be arrested right now for our brains making an illegal "drug". And then what about cigarettes or alcohol? They aren't illegal, but they do alter your perception also - do you not label them as drugs because the government tells you they aren't? Even though they cause more deaths than all of the illegal drugs combined.




First off, the government is retarded, but who cares? LSD, Vicodin, DMT, Coke, Shrooms, and Meth are all drugs. It's just a generic catch all for "it changes your brain chemistry" or some shit like that. I label cigarettes as drugs just like anything else. Alcohol too. Whenever one of my friends says "i don't do drugs" and they just got smashed with me last weekend I ALWAYS say "So you don't drink now huh?"

Also, no one has even proven that DMT is made by the pineal gland. It's just a thought.

Also, sorry but I get sick of people getting up in arms that they're drug of choice isn't a drug. You don't see coke heads saying coke isn't a drug 'cause it comes from a plant too, do you? Some of the greatest minds and thinkers in the world didn't have to sit around smoking DMT all day to get where they were. No (legit) person seriously advocates drugs as a way to be a great, thinking person. Sure, some pot may open up some doors and LSD may enable you to view things in a different way for a bit, but ultimately changes comes from within, not without.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Wig]
    #7840573 - 01/06/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

As a temporary aide to self development.

Once I receive the message(s) I will hang up the phone. I did not get into psychedelics as a hobby.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7840581 - 01/06/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do them because they're fun.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7840826 - 01/06/08 06:53 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do drugs for a number of reason. Mainly to have fun and think about things differently. Especially weed. Psychadelics are cool and awesome but I cant really just chill out and relax while im tripping. Thats why I like weed, I can just sit down and relax and stuff. I don't really do any drugs besides weed and psychadelics.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7840991 - 01/06/08 07:36 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I do it for a good laugh


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: XtraLame]
    #7841032 - 01/06/08 07:45 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

To live life to the fullest


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7841381 - 01/06/08 09:03 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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I take drugs because I am figuring out how everything works so I can give this information to humanity before I die so that they might save themselves with it. "They know not what they do", after all.

I mean... theoretically... you could figure out everything without taking drugs. Of course you can. That's the nature of everything. But that's going to be fucking hard, or just take a long ass time, which can still be considered hard because you have to try and somehow maintain your shit through that entire length of time.

Drugs have helped me accelerate the process so that I might figure it out faster and faster and hopefully have time to help ALL YOU
(obviously not all of you here at the shroomery) FUCKING PEOPLE KILLING YOURSELVES before I ding-dong-die.

They might not even have accelerated the process, they might even be slowing it down. My DNA may already have in it this process running at these speeds. Of course there's no way to tell that now.

I take droogs to save the world. To save YOU from YOU.




Wow, I didn't realize I needed your help. Where have you been all my life?

Thousands of years of human history and you're the one that will save us? I guess you must 'get it' better than the rest of us...

Thank you for gracing us with your presence.



I use drugs to try and understand how people like Ell Ess Bree can develop such a christ complex.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Crasher]
    #7841384 - 01/06/08 09:04 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Why not?


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7841460 - 01/06/08 09:23 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Well first id like to say Drugs are Drugs haha dont know why i said that but i do drugs for the feeeling an for that second demension its puts you in. its makes me feel like im in another world its just me an the open world its opens your mind to many different places. I do natural Drugs only shrooms pot but not coc or anything not anything were u gotta mix some shit to gether to get you high uno. Its like the twilight zone any one ever seen that. How in the beggining he says stuff about other demensions and likeand stuff being about site and mind uno its crazy. I DONT KNOW ITS JUST CRAZY.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: shroomials]
    #7841776 - 01/06/08 10:42 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

At first I did them only because they were fun and kept life interesting. Only now do I realize their spiritual power, and I makes me like them even more! :wink:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7841881 - 01/06/08 11:11 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Because I enjoy doing them.



Yeah, that and it's a great way to experience your boring everyday life a bit differently, even if only for a short time. That said, as I've been finding my boring everyday life not to be quite so boring lately, I've had less need for drugs, since there are just so many cool things to do with my time, drugs being just a few of them.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mayfly]
    #7841967 - 01/06/08 11:40 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Usually I do drugs to feel thier effects, but sometimes because snakes don't have legs.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Wig]
    #7842001 - 01/06/08 11:55 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Alot of different resons but mainly because it makes me feel good


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7842112 - 01/07/08 12:50 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

To tap into the subconscious, explore my psyche and inner-self, grow mentally and spiritually (Psychedelics) Psych of choice: Mescaline.

With other drugs it's just to feel good, at rest/ease, relieve stress, escape from reality for a while, or just for good old fun. Substance of choice to feel good: MDMA. Substance of choice for leisurely recreation: Marijuana.

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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7842167 - 01/07/08 01:31 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

as a vacation :cool:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: mecreateme]
    #7842179 - 01/07/08 01:37 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

cause................I CAN lolool


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: smily]
    #7842377 - 01/07/08 05:45 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Wow, I didn't realize I needed your help. Where have you been all my life?

Thousands of years of human history and you're the one that will save us? I guess you must 'get it' better than the rest of us...

Thank you for gracing us with your presence.



I use drugs to try and understand how people like Ell Ess Bree can develop such a christ complex.




Way to prove my point.

Maybe you're all good and don't need any help. Awesome, I wish everyone was the same way.

But guess what?

They're NOT.

I can't even type anymore about this. If you could see what I see and understand what I'm coming from... fucking. Just the fact that you posted that and can't understand why I would say that, and be so silly as to take my post as a personal fucking offense only makes what I was saying make even more sense. Makes it even more clear.

Think outside yourself man. For real.

And if you're going to tell me you did, and let your ego get offended by what my text says, well... You're not doing it right.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7843994 - 01/07/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

It seems we must have the same problem if you can claim to know these things about me and my ego without ever having met me. Trust me, you don't hurt my feelings.

It is far more egotistical to think you're the only one with the answers.

Have a great day.

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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7844175 - 01/07/08 03:44 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Hey, if the man wants to save the world, let him go at it.

Personally, I think we could use a man with a christ complex hell bent on making some kind of change.

But then again, maybe Ive just read to much DUNE. :crazy2:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: K20A2]
    #7844196 - 01/07/08 03:47 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

LOL, the last time a dude with a Christ complex tried to 'enlighten humanity' we burnt his Waco, TX compound down

Then there was this other guy, I think he ended up on a cross or some shit...


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: K20A2]
    #7844197 - 01/07/08 03:47 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

to fit in. :P


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: clover606]
    #7844303 - 01/07/08 04:04 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

because you suck.:thumbup:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: clover606]
    #7844319 - 01/07/08 04:09 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I didn't know not wanting to sit on your ass like the vast majority of the entire human population meant you have a Christ complex.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7844325 - 01/07/08 04:10 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

it doesnt humanity needs help the only problem is they dont want it i respect you for not giving up hope.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: awesomebastard]
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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: THEBats]
    #7844480 - 01/07/08 04:49 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Right. Because your stated desire to save humanity from itself by taking drugs is exactly the same as not sitting on your ass.

I'm not saying it isn't a noble gesture- but who are you to say anyone needs saving?


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: THEBats]
    #7844481 - 01/07/08 04:49 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

For fun and spiritual growth. Id be lying if i said it wasnt at least half for fun.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: THEBats]
    #7844484 - 01/07/08 04:50 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Jim Morrison said something along the lines of..

"I believe in a long, prolonged state of derangement in order to attain the unknown."

I think thats right...


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7844637 - 01/07/08 05:21 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Jim Morrison said something along the lines of..

"I believe in a long, prolonged state of derangement in order to attain the unknown."

I think thats right...




That is an awesome quote and yes it is correct. I do drugs mostly for the fun of it and social aspects. Sometimes its good to escape while other times its to learn


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Crasher]
    #7844641 - 01/07/08 05:22 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Right. Because your stated desire to save humanity from itself by taking drugs is exactly the same as not sitting on your ass.

I'm not saying it isn't a noble gesture- but who are you to say anyone needs saving?



are you denying that people dont need saving? nuclear weapons wars greed political and corparate corruption in every government pollution on mass scales we are driving tword our own destruction ive found that even sharing this fact with people is pointless everyone is happy because jesus wouldent let horrible things like that happen or allah or whatever religioun is most likley bullshit and this is the only life we get shit ohh sorry off on a rant fuck .


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7844685 - 01/07/08 05:30 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Everything you just described is something I like to call, ready? Human Nature.

I don't try to stop my dog from licking its own asshole, because thats my dogs nature.

It's a mode, not a malady.

And before you start jumping into rants on how blissfully ignorant I am about how terrible the world is-
I've been to iraq.
I've lost almost a dozen good friends there.
I lost my hand there.

I can assure you I know how shitty the world is. But taking drugs to save the world from itself is the dumbest response to the condition I see every day.

Its an egocentric and self righteous view.

Jesus and allah have nothing to do with it.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Crasher]
    #7844854 - 01/07/08 06:10 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

i understand what u mean and i apolagize if i made it sound as though i thought you were unaware i dont know you but you seem intent on destroying ell ess bree's spirit i just feel that because we are concious beings we dont have to obey our dna every step of the way we dont have to hate people or things different than us and we dont have to reproduce on such mass scales and that is what makes us self aware the ability to withhold from primal urges although people dont and that is why i stated that it is a pointless hopeless endeveur in my opinion.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7844872 - 01/07/08 06:14 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

No worries. I apologize if I'm being abrasive. It takes considerable effort to slowly shift out of military thought processes.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Crasher]
    #7844965 - 01/07/08 06:33 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Humans will always live in fear and act accordingly unless there is a major shift in conciousness, or until natural or genetic evolution takes hold.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7844983 - 01/07/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

"Drugs are good, they let you do things that you know you not should.
And when you do 'em people think that you're cool.
And when you do 'em people think that you're cool."

"Drugs are neat, and you can buy 'em relatively cheap.
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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Crasher]
    #7844986 - 01/07/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I don't take drugs; I take psychedelics. Through their use, I am allowed to enter into polydimensional realms of reality that are filled with variously different extraterrestrial life forms. From these beings, I can receive data, data that can be brought back into my world and applied in unique ways. I love novelty!

Also, through the use of psychedelics, I am able to transcend the chemical habitat of reality, return to the original wisdom of the animal mind, and sink into an enormous dimension of opportunity.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: clover606]
    #7845433 - 01/07/08 08:13 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

The fact that you were in the military explains why it doesn't and probably won't make any sense, Crasher.

I've said before, not in this post, that there could be all kinds of positive hidden behind supposed "negativity", or what you've chosen this time to call egocentric and self righteous.

You're missing it because you're thinking in the wrong shapes, and on top of that the wrong sizes between those shapes.

If you think I'm egocentric and self righteous and have a Christ complex you're fucking blind.

If you think that I think all I gotta do is sit here and eat drugs and I'm saving the world you're even more fucking blind.

If you actually fucking think I would be daft enough to put acid in my mouth, and honestly believe inside myself that by putting acid in my mouth that I'm saving the world, you are a moron.

If you're going to say "WELL THATS WHAT YER POST SAID DOOD HOW WOULD I KNOW?!", then you missed the fucking sarcasm, which you chose to call egocentric and self righteous, and failed to see beyond it.

I don't want to fucking insult you and tear you down, but you'd do yourself good to get your head out of your militant ass.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7845609 - 01/07/08 08:44 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I smoke pot because it is a good way to relax and decrease your stress level for a decent period of time. I suffer from clinical depression and adult ADD with a side dose of Seasonal Effectiveness Disorder (SAD). I didn't get into smoking till freshman year of college. Full spectrum light treatment in the morning had little or no effect. Smoking however would get my mind off anything stressful and daily life events. And the bonds born from smoking with friends are an added plus.
The first time I boomed was moving into my first house with roommate and good friends from the dorms. My roommate and one other friend moved in on the same day first and looking for bud, we got the blessing of booms. Just so happened the friend was just arriving and had some of his own. He didn't know about the roommate and I having just bought some of our own. We unpacked the rest of our crap and had our selfs peanut butter boom sandwiches. Then after a bowl we set out on a glorious journey full of new experiences around campus. Campus was empty due to move in not being for another week. So, after that being my first trip and then taking a almost constant week long trip that ended on Halloween watching night mare Before Christmas 3D. I would say that I boom for the social bonds with close friends, good vibes(energy), better perspective.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7845660 - 01/07/08 08:53 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Please help me detect the sarcasm with the following:

"I take drugs because I am figuring out how everything works so I can give this information to humanity before I die so that they might save themselves with it. 'They know not what they do', after all."


"I take droogs to save the world. To save YOU from YOU."

Now bear with me for another quotation:

"Christ complex (also superiority complex) is a psychological term used loosely to describe any individual mentally fixed on superiority or the claim of being a savior. There are many types of disorders in which the Christ complex comes into play. The extreme example is a psychopath: someone who comes to operate without any regard for other humans...This term is used by psychologists in referring to people who feel a compulsion to try to save other human beings."

Please tell me what shapes and sizes I should be thinking in.

My opinion of you can only be based on the text you submit to this forum and the context in which you present it.

You claim I must be a moron to believe you think you're doing the world a favor by swallowing acid, yet post something like the first quote.

Please tell me, without sarcasm or your dynamic wit, how my being in the military would blind me in this case?

If you think this is tearing me down or insulting me, you are once again demonstrating your egocentric attitude. I won't even bother quoting your posts on the existence of time and your repeated flaming of members of this community.

Please, keep posting how wrong I must be. Blame it on the military, blame it on the weather. I made no claim beyond not understanding how you could have a Christ complex.

Have a great day!

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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: Crasher]
    #7847575 - 01/08/08 12:00 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

I blame it on humans.

jesus didnt start a war. He never wrote anything in the bible.
Mohammed never started a war. He didnt write the Koran either

Yet,

How are the american people supposed to know these things when theyre too busy trying to feed their kids and self, working two jobs, getting the kids through school, their own personal problems, family issues, deadlines, drug problems, and loans? it goes on for our whole lives...

One thing that I did to realize that there is good in the world and great people was taking mushrooms. It opened a great hole in my view of society in which I could see through it and look at human beings as individuals.

In the words of Einstein,

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."

The good ole Gov't wants us to be sheep. to go into the churches and follow what they say. Go research the relation between churches and the government spending money on them.

BTW, my longest standing friend was shipped off to Boot camp yesterday. ive known him since I was 4. I dont like the military. It only makes weapons, soldiers and widows with fatherless children. this world needs none of these things.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: eaglenature]
    #7847792 - 01/08/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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eaglenature said:
I searched the forum, surprisingly couldn't find anything like this.

So here's my question.

Why do you shroom/do other drugs? Is it for spiritual growth? Mental health/depression? For fun/for the hell of it? For creative inspiration?

To put this in perspective, why do you prefer using drugs like shrooms instead of being sober all the time? Why not be "straight edge"?

Don't get me wrong here, I'm not against most drugs besides meth, heroin etc, I just thought it would be interesting to see some people's answers.

For me personally, drugs are the most interesting thing to do at this point in my life (school). I find it fascinating being able to see "firsthand" what the human mind/body is really capable of, but mostly it is a matter of having fun (esp. weed), good times and new perspectives on life and its many wonders. I also smoke weed and write music for my band, and sometimes I paint for fun, so I guess it serves as a creative inspiration and all that as well.



Drugs > Your Mom.

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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7848007 - 01/08/08 01:41 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

I SMOKE METHAMPHETAMINE BECAUSE IT GIVES ME KNOWLEDGE.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7848042 - 01/08/08 01:46 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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bloodbrother778 said:
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implee said:

Why do you put drugs in quotes as if LSD, Shrooms, or DMT aren't drugs? Are you also one of those people who claims cannabis isn't a drug because it's a plant?




I put it in quotes because I don't like the stupid label that the government puts on them. I don't put psychedelics in the same category as any of the shitty drugs. By my definition a drug has to be something that is addictive and or harmful to your body, and most psychedelics aren't either of those things. I can tell you right now that DMT is not a drug, it's a neurotransmitter that your brain naturally makes......how they made it a schedule 1 drug is beyond me.
Yes I understand that these are substances that change your perception, but why do we have to label them as drugs? I mean if you're releasing DMT in your sleep or meditation are you doing drugs also?....then perhaps we should all be arrested right now for our brains making an illegal "drug". And then what about cigarettes or alcohol? They aren't illegal, but they do alter your perception also - do you not label them as drugs because the government tells you they aren't? Even though they cause more deaths than all of the illegal drugs combined.





well YOUR defintion is WRONG.

the DEFINITION of a DRUG is:

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drug1 /drʌg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[druhg] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, drugged, drug·ging.
–noun
1. Pharmacology. a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.
2. (in federal law)
a. any substance recognized in the official pharmacopoeia or formulary of the nation.
b. any substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans or other animals.
c. any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals.
d. any substance intended for use as a component of such a drug, but not a device or a part of a device.
3. a habit-forming medicinal or illicit substance, esp. a narcotic.
4. drugs,
a. chemical substances prepared and sold as pharmaceutical items, either by prescription or over the counter.
b. personal hygienic items sold in a drugstore, as toothpaste, mouthwash, etc.




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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: sui]
    #7848048 - 01/08/08 01:47 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

I do drugs to experience new things, feel good and have fun.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: sui]
    #7848049 - 01/08/08 01:48 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

in the strictest sense of the word sugar is a drug.


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7848158 - 01/08/08 02:11 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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The_Ghost said:

Drugs > Your Mom.

/Thread.

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hahahahaahaha :rofl2:


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Re: Why do you do drugs? [Re: HeadFood]
    #7848401 - 01/08/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

magic ritual is the best reason specially to do anything at all


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