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OfflineMaza
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N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!)
    #7838148 - 01/06/08 03:05 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Hi,

I've received a great deal of information so far. Thanks Shoomery!

I'm starting my first grow. I got my first spore syringe yesterday filled with Mazatapec sperm! I have just about everything needed for this grow. Unfortantly, I went to Walmart yesterday to pick up some Vermiculite, Perlite and Organic Brown Rice Flour. They didn't have ANY of these things. I'll never go back into a Walmart again, I tell ya!

I went to another grocery store to pick up the Brown Rice Flower and they didn't carry it either. Will I have to buy all of this online? I can't find a place I can physically go to and pick any of these items up at! What a shame. I'll order it online if I have to. Will my spore syringe be ok until then? It's already gone five days in the mail. It says store at room temp or put in a refrigerator and it will be good up to six months. I can't keep it in my refrigerator for certain reasons.

Also, I have a humidifier quite like this:

Is this ideal for growing? I was going to use Perlite for humidifiying, but I can use this humidifier too if necessary.

Sorry to anyone who reads this for torchering you with noob questions. I promise to share photos of purdy Mazatapec shrooms once their done, though. Teehee.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7838154 - 01/06/08 03:11 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

can't keep the syringe in the fridge for certain reasons? lol, I wonder if those were the same reasons I had at 17...

Your syringe will last.

I like to think of the search for supplies as a treasure hunt. Buying everything online is kinda cheating in my opinion. Try actual garden supply shops if you're in a town big enough to support those for your verm/perlite. Try health food stores for the BRF or just brown rice and grind it yourself.

That humidifier could be modified to work if necessary- but I'm guessing you're going for a covert grow, so stick w/ perlite.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7838164 - 01/06/08 03:20 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

wal-mart has rye flour which will work in place of brf.

or try organic food sections of some of your local grocery stores. i get mine at my local food co-op.


yup then a garden center for the other supplies. you usually get raped pretty hard buying this sorta stuff online. espicially shipping.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: blood4blood]
    #7838169 - 01/06/08 03:22 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Health food shops should setl brown rice flour, thats where i get it.

If you are going to use rye flour, just remember that a pressure cooker is required.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Crasher]
    #7838170 - 01/06/08 03:23 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I had the same problem didnt know where to source. Walmart sucks. Winter is here and the gardening supplys are gone at most places because its seasonal stuff. I found all the places to go for your treasure hunt.

BRF- Health food stores,make your own buy a bag of brown rice and grind it up in a coffee grinder till its a powder now you have BRF.

Vermiculite-HomeDepot,Lowes.

Perlite-HomeDepot,Lowes.

1/2 Pint jars or 1 pint jars- Albertsons,Staterbros,Ralphs,Vons.Albertsons always has 1/2 pint wide mouths jars.

Micropore Tape-Longs Drugs,Rite Aid.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Cloneufc]
    #7838186 - 01/06/08 03:48 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Thanks very much. So helpful.

I can't keep it in the fridge because I'm staying with mom atm. I'm 22 btw. I doubt she would care, but she may find it and think it's heroin or something. Haha.

I have a brand new electric pressure cooker. When it comes to being sterile I have everything I need and more. I'm a tattoo apprentice and have my own autoclave, ultrasonic cleaner and various sterilization liquids.

I used to work at Lowes when I was a teen so I should've known they would carry Vermiculite and Perlite. Doh! Why didn't I go there yesterday?

I would give all of you a high rating if I could. Thanks again.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7838228 - 01/06/08 04:55 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Maza said:
Thanks very much. So helpful.

I can't keep it in the fridge because I'm staying with mom atm. I'm 22 btw. I doubt she would care, but she may find it and think it's heroin or something. Haha.

I have a brand new electric pressure cooker. When it comes to be sterile I have everything I need and more. I'm a tattoo apprentice and have my own autoclave, ultrasonic cleaner and various sterilization liquids.

I used to work at Lowes when I was a teen so I should've known they would carry Vermiculite and Perlite. Doh! Why didn't I go there yesterday?

I would give all of you a high rating if I could. Thanks again.




I know what you mean. My flatmates are all semi into this hobby, they like looking after the cakes, misting them etc but they freak out each time I start messing about with syringes, making prints, inoculating, etc...


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Nibin]
    #7839050 - 01/06/08 12:11 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Well, I went and got everything. I picked up organic brown rice to grind up. Hey, I was wondering.. is it safe to use drinking glasses and double layer them with tinfoil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFi3YrIo7o

Like this guy? Is it ok? I have new jars but I don't really like them much. They're 1 pint and I wanted to use small glasses. I'll use the jars if I have to, but I'm afraid they're not tapered enough.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7839060 - 01/06/08 12:13 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Maza said:
Well, I went and got everything. I picked up organic brown rice to grind up. Hey, I was wondering.. is it safe to use drinking glasses and double layer them with tinfoil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFi3YrIo7o

Like this guy? Is it ok? I have new jars but I don't really like them much. They're 1 pint and I wanted to use small glasses. I'll use the jars if I have to, but I'm afraid they're not tapered enough.




I dont use lids on my jars just tin foil and as long as they aint tappered at all they should be fine.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7839087 - 01/06/08 12:29 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Wow. This was really helpful to me.
Glasses instead of jars. Thanks lol.
On topic: I had a tough time finding Verm too. I went all around town finding them, I had almost gave up until I went to Lowe's, which was the 6th store I went to, then tada! 8qt. bags for 4 bucks each. I was so happy I bought 2 and left for home again, all in time for work. Basically, don't give up. You can find them if you spend enough time. As that other dude said, think of it as a scavenger hunt.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Urinalasis]
    #7839121 - 01/06/08 12:40 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Thanks, MYSTIQUE.

Urinalasis,

I went to Lowes earlier and picked up Sta-Green vermiculite and perlite made by Miracle Grow. This was the only brands they had so I hope they'll do. In fact, I probably got the same brand as you did!


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7841810 - 01/06/08 10:51 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Maza said:
Thanks, MYSTIQUE.

Urinalasis,

I went to Lowes earlier and picked up Sta-Green vermiculite and perlite made by Miracle Grow. This was the only brands they had so I hope they'll do. In fact, I probably got the same brand as you did!




Haha. You actually did. They have a money back guarantee so it better work.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Urinalasis]
    #7842309 - 01/07/08 05:06 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7842316 - 01/07/08 05:12 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

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Maza said:
Well, I went and got everything. I picked up organic brown rice to grind up. Hey, I was wondering.. is it safe to use drinking glasses and double layer them with tinfoil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFi3YrIo7o

Like this guy? Is it ok? I have new jars but I don't really like them much. They're 1 pint and I wanted to use small glasses. I'll use the jars if I have to, but I'm afraid they're not tapered enough.




Thats what i have been using, where i am, canning jars just dont exist, the only suitable jar i could find jam that tesco sells, which costs £4 a jar.

Tinfoil lids work fine, since the dry verm layer is your filter.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7851249 - 01/08/08 11:17 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

I hate when I type out a whole post and right before I post it the whole thing disappears? It's happened twice now.

Anyway, it's been nearly 3 days since they've been in the jars (and drinking glasses) at a constant temp of 87F. Should I be seeing alittle growth by now? Because I'm not. Maybe I'm impatient but I'm starting to worry that I mixed my verm and BRF wrong or something.

I'm ordering more spores just in case because I used just about all that I had.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7851279 - 01/08/08 11:22 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Nah, 3 day sis to fast Maza. It took me 7 days to notice growth. Though some people like their temperatures that high, I usually keep mine in the low 80's high 70's. Higher temps, from what I understand, foster the growth of contaminations.


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Beebo]
    #7851453 - 01/08/08 11:47 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Thanks. I'll keep you all updated and post pics if all goes well.

I'll consider turning down the temp, but I did a pretty decent job at staying sterile. Or at least I hope! I feel the whole process will go faster if I keep the temp fairly high though. I'm using an electric heater in a closet that's set on 82F. The mushrooms themselves are on top of a shelf and the temp is higher up there (87F).


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: Maza]
    #7852038 - 01/09/08 01:58 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Hello to u all :smile:

I am very new at this (actually my first spores should arrive in a few days :laugh:) and this is my third day reading on this site. I have found some hints about what I am going to ask but no concluding answer though... SO:

1. If I put the print in a sterilized jar and pour sterilized water above it, sealed it with foil, shake it and than draw with the syringe the content will do well?

All the teks I have read say about injecting the water into the zip-lock.. but I want to try the stuff I mentioned.

Thank you for your reply and mush away:)


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Re: N0ob question(s). Won't take long to answer (I hope!) [Re: hipopotam]
    #7853015 - 01/09/08 10:45 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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hipopotam said:
Hello to u all :smile:

I am very new at this (actually my first spores should arrive in a few days :laugh:) and this is my third day reading on this site. I have found some hints about what I am going to ask but no concluding answer though... SO:

1. If I put the print in a sterilized jar and pour sterilized water above it, sealed it with foil, shake it and than draw with the syringe the content will do well?

All the teks I have read say about injecting the water into the zip-lock.. but I want to try the stuff I mentioned.

Thank you for your reply and mush away:)




So, hi again...still waiting for the answer for the first question but more popped in my mind (the firs is the same:

1. If I put the print in a sterilized jar and pour sterilized water above it, sealed it with foil, shake it and than draw with the syringe the content will do well?

2. I bought 2 large casing semi-translucent blue. They are very expensive in my country so do not want to buy more so here is what I thought off :
- put black plastic bags in them an use them as double tub
- also use them as fruit chambers but without the holes... I do not know if leaving the lid cracked open will suffice but it has too... if I fan it 2-3 times a day u think it will be OK? :confused:

3. I have a pressure boiling pot that goes to 70KPA not at 100 :confused: will it if I boil for 90 minutes?

Please answer cause I'm staying in front of my comp and eating my fingernails...:ooo:


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