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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: zubi420]
    #7868733 - 01/12/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I have tourettes (although not extreme)

I made it have a purpose. I HAD to fit it in.


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7869137 - 01/12/08 01:46 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Everyone fits in.

How can you not if you're a part of everything?  Even nothing is a part of all of it.

You don't really get to choose.  :grin:


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7869271 - 01/12/08 02:32 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Look behind what small talk is. Look at the actual meaning. The most basic meaning. When someone is talking to you, it isn't just words, it is feeling, and the desire for a connection. It's not just, hey what's up, how about the weather today, boy my car needs more washer fluid, did you see that new movie out, etc. it is also communicating that 'I like you', 'I want to interact with you', 'Let's be friends', etc. Maybe if we all just hugged and cuddled and tickled each other when we met this would be more apparent but unfortunately humans do all this "talking" business and it really starts to hide what is actually going on.


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7869335 - 01/12/08 02:54 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I'm in the same situation, social norms make me want to vomit. I cant hold a conversation with an acquaintance without thinking how stupid humans act the entire time. I tend to lean more towards humor in the matter rather than negativity though.


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7869348 - 01/12/08 02:57 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Drewwyann said:

Not because I don't want to meet new people, but because human social interaction is shallow, fake, and I can't participate in it seriously anymore. My eyes have been opened to the pure fakeness of it. Or at least I believe it is really fake.





I realized this way before I ever took drugs, and once I got into heavily smoking and tripping it totally reinforced my thoughts. Everybody seems so fake to me, even most of my friends. It's just so fucking stupid how people act the way they do because they think that it's socially acceptable. I feel like very few people in my life are on my level, or even close at all. Thinking about shit like this even makes me feel nauseas.


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7869372 - 01/12/08 03:03 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Ell Ess Bree said:
Man... I felt exactly the same at one point, and still do to a degree. But here's what you do.

Ignore them.

Or, say whatever your mind-machine comes up with in response to what they just said. They're giving you input, they're sorry their input isn't that good, but they don't think like you do, atleast just not yet.

You can outright be mean, if you really don't care, and that'll be fun for a little while, but it gets shitty 'cause people don't talk to you.

Have fun with them, man! They clearly show you the levels they're working with, and you claim to be able to see around them, so fucking... Dood. Play with them in their small levels with your bigger idea's floating around outside for them to catch on to, or just straight up dance around their arenas.

I mean, if they can only see this far, and you can see just beyond that, you can do things in the just beyond that will make absolute sense to you because you can see them, if they can't see into the just beyond, it's not going to make any sense and they'll get all confused and fucking... people do funny shit when they're confused.

YOU are in control when they are confused. YOU know what's going, they don't.

You can.... essentially use this against people.

Or just have fun with them.

So you're not bored.

And pissed off about their dumb shit.

Make sense?




That's the truth.

I used to think the same thing...small talk blows it's pointless, bullshitting is dumb, etc, etc. Then I realized it's pretty sweet just to interact with people. I don't care how fake they're being as long as it doesn't make me fake.

I usually just dance around them like Ell Ess Bree said to do, which confuses them...it's entertaining as hell! and you'll fish out the real people, because they will respond in kind. I don't even mean it's entertaining in a condescending way, since I'm not manipulating them or judging these folks, I'm just saying what I want in response to what they said, no matter how it comes across.

If I am interacting with some truly shallow people I normally just make a game out of it until they get pissed and leave lol

As the other poster said, if there wasn't this interaction the world would be a lonely place.

I've realized lately that human interaction is a beautiful thing, nothing to be classified or painted different colors...just go with it.


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7869514 - 01/12/08 03:46 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

here is my brain dump:

I spent the whole day setting up a cheap wireless router with security, 5 complete installations and removals and reconfigurations, each a different way, and during this time I was so out of synch with my wife and the people around me that they really could not bear to be near me.

OUT OF SYNCH. IMPATIENT, ALL RELATIONS UNSATISFACTORY, NONE OF THE MASKS IN REPERTOIRE WERE SUITABLE.

it relates because I am 1 week from acid and was deeply into salvia earlier in the day. it relates because there is a part of self, the expressive part, which is 99% reflex and 1% interest, and all those reflexes or masks are good but might not be a good fit for what i am up to at the moment.

I guess I could work on making my tech fuckup service persona more congenial, but the risk was that it might slow down the process - excuses!

realistically I was just too bowled over by how badly the wifi router installation was going.

and while that was important, I was out of synch with everything else, i.e. I could cue up no masks that would serve both needs, social and intellectual.

yep life can be hard when you run a free ranging life. and lots of psychedelic make you a real free range bird.

also I really must add, that the most significant psychedelic insights seem nearly inaccessible when the mind is not so enhanced, however, I am pretty certain that the wide sweeping resonant moments of psychedelic experience help highlight how habits can interfere with free ranging yet habits also form the framework of experience.

it really takes delicacy to manage along the way, and often a good deal of charisma to make up for the (social) errors that are nearly unavoidable.


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7870824 - 01/12/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Sounds like you need to chill and go with the flow. :laugh:


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: zubi420]
    #7870996 - 01/12/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I have the same feeling. And I don't hate it. It helps me find the true people out there.


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: zubi420]
    #7871014 - 01/12/08 09:21 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Hey, drew, hows it going?


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Re: Social Awkwardness take II [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #7871029 - 01/12/08 09:25 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

There's nothing wrong with little social niceties. Smalltalk may seem like bullshit but it's integral in getting to know a stranger. There's nothing inherently fake or stupid about it, it's just a matter of fitting yourself and your information into an enormous, multifaceted system of human interaction. If you're happy not meeting anybody new, well, that's your prerogative, and you may have to deal with some unpleasant consequences in the long run.

Personally, acid has helped me put said little social niceties in perspective: I know what it's worth now, which is an opening to talk to somebody new; there is little in the way of "success" or "failure," so there's no pressure to act more awesome or interesting or special than you really are. If it's awkward, it's not somebody you should bother talking to. If you hit it off and have a great conversation, you may have just met a new friend. In short I'm much more comfortable with stuff like smalltalk. I myself enjoy meeting new people, especially females.

TeasyThighs was right, namely that you shouldn't just give the answers you think people expect. That's not smalltalk, that's just getting someone off your back. If you want to engage and meet somebody, actually put some thought into your answers, and be honest about yourself. Always remember to be yourself, because naturally you'll suck at trying to be anyone else and it'll show. You should never truly need to wear a "mask;" this is a metaphor for the ego that does not always apply.


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