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first time growers debate about fruiting chamber
    #7834867 - 01/05/08 09:57 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

hello -
my boyfriend and i are in the process of setting up our fruiting chamber. we each have some ideas about how we want to do it and i think that we need some advice.

currently we have 12 cakes nearing 95% colonization and time is getting short.

we live in a freezing climate and i have my thermostat set at 60 degrees F. so needless to say we need a way to keep the chamber at a warmer and steady temperature (70 degrees F)

this is our current set up. (the first picture is one of our beautiful jars) the second and third are the current fruiting chamber.





i suggest that we modify it by placing a submersible heater at the bottom, cover with 2 inches clay granulate, add 1.5 inches of water, and then cover with 2 inches moist perlite.

my boyfriend suggests a small space heater near the container.

we have had heated debates about this so please help.

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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7834874 - 01/05/08 10:01 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

im going with your boyfriends idea on the sheer fact that he has a penis and you dont

no, both are good ideas. sounds like his might be a little easier though. :justdontknow:


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7834885 - 01/05/08 10:07 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

ive tried the tub with water and heater in it and found it created a lot of humidity problems when i was fruiting my own cakes in a similar temperature condition. i still found that the best fruiting chamber for the least amount of money is the rubbermaid container with perlite lining the bottom and the cakes placed on the perlite. i put this tub in a larger storage rubbermaid with a light taped to the lid and the heat from a 15w bulb will keep your fruiting chamber a little warmer. the temp will also stay a bit higher in the bottom of your fruiting chamber as the mnycellium does its thing and heat is produced.




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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #7834893 - 01/05/08 10:08 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

ha!
the thing is, with the space heater i have a lot of concerns. first of all i am worried about fire. second, i don't want to spend more $$ on utilities.

i haven't seen any geolite/perlite setups on this website (yet) and i am just concerned as to whether it will be succesful or not.


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7834897 - 01/05/08 10:11 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

i agree with you about the space heater thing cause you dont have a penis and may quite possibly be right!


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #7834899 - 01/05/08 10:11 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

usually chem i would say you want to heat the room your terrarium is in and never your terrarium

if you put a space heater next to your terrarium, you're going to be constantly refilling water like every 4 hours
condensation is a bitch

60F is terrific for fruiting
i would say even 50 would be ok as long as it came back up during the day

my heater seems to DEVOUR electricity, so we keep the thermostat low aswell


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: Libertycapper]
    #7834903 - 01/05/08 10:13 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

thanks for the response. with the light bulb set up, will it get to 75 degrees? and hold steady?

what kind of tub and heater set up did you have that caused the humidity problems?
also, what kind of humidity problems, too much or too little? i thought that there is no such thing as too much humidity - aren't we looking for 95% to 100%?


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7834913 - 01/05/08 10:18 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

at 65 degrees F will we have a good rate of growth? at higher temperatures the mushrooms grow faster?


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7834975 - 01/05/08 10:35 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

with as many cakes as you have, i'm sure you will find 65F to be perfect

at higher temps, you usually get thinner (skinny/hollow) and taller shrooms
at lower temps, you usually get fatter thicker and generally larger mushrooms

with cakes, you really can't have too much humidity
but 100% is hard to hold
impossible to hold if you put a space heater next to your terrarium
it's been done before, and it just dries out your perlite
aswell as overheating your terrarium, wasting energy, and raising potential for a house fire


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: anarchOi]
    #7835012 - 01/05/08 10:50 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

#1 They will fruit at those temperatures.

#2 I call bullshit on your story. 60F is not an acceptable temperature to live at and I think that you'd have to be out of your mind to do that. As such you should seek mental help before taking any psychoactive drugs.

#3 The obvious solution is to set your thermostat at a temperature that humans consider normal aka room temp, 70-72F.


Sorry to be so non-constructive. If you must heat your FC then I suggest a heating pad underneath as the best solution. Look for a continuiously variable temp control and no auto-shutoff feature.


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: anarchOi]
    #7835024 - 01/05/08 10:53 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

thanks man, we will post the results...


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7835040 - 01/05/08 10:58 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

fastfred

i live in a 2 story apartment, and if i turn my thermostat above 60 then the upstairs is 80-90 while the downstairs is 60-70

so we usually just leave the heat off and deal with it
you can always put on more clothes or find a blanket


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: anarchOi]
    #7835210 - 01/05/08 11:50 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

Sounds like a pretty shitty situation. Shouldn't be that hard to fix though. Ensure that only downstairs heaters are running and/or put in an air return.

Personally, I would never allow my standard of living to be lowered to that degree. (pun intended)


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: fastfred]
    #7835272 - 01/05/08 12:07 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

one guy is referring to the room temp and another is talking about what temp the terrerium should be so....
room 60F = 70-75 in jar you are saying?
i prefer closer to 80.... but i am fruiting my first grow right now, 3 days in and mycelium is emerging from the top of the cakes w00t - Guy


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: fastfred]
    #7835636 - 01/05/08 01:31 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

hi fast fred -
thanks for the info about fruiting at those temps.

i don't know where the hell you live but heating costs in massachusetts are extremely high. with a quartz space heater and a sweater on, i am only paying about $100 in gas and $100 in electricity per month (on top of the $1100) rent. so i am just trying to keep my costs down.

you jackass.


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7835649 - 01/05/08 01:35 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

and btw, i wasn't asking for you to comment about my living conditions but thanks for your concern.


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7835686 - 01/05/08 01:45 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

You can fruit at that temperature just fine, heating your fruiting chamber will rob your of humidity as moisture will condensate out of the air onto the walls of the FC, due to temp difference between the inside and out.

A space heater is the best solution, but not nessesary.

At those temps fruiting may take a little longer, but they will fruit just fine.

Actually 65F is the temp my FC is at most of the time


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7835692 - 01/05/08 01:46 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

thanks so much!


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7838215 - 01/06/08 04:37 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

You should try and heat the room the FC is in.

Heating from the inside will create a temperature difference between the inside and out.

Colder outside than inside = condensation = lowering of RH due to that water coming from the air inside the FC = Lower RH = Less than ideal fruiting conditions.

If the outside of the FC is warmer than the inside, you don't get condensation.


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Re: first time growers debate about fruiting chamber [Re: chemicalreloaded]
    #7838217 - 01/06/08 04:39 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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