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Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador?
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Howdy, I got some KS, LY, PR, and EQ spore syringes from ralphster's. All of the strains are incubating and are close to done. The only strain that has gotten contamination is the EQ, and every single jar is contaminated. I could be wrong, but I'm guessing it must not have been a very sterile syringe because I did everything the same for all of the jars, all at the same time, and EQ is the only one that has gotten this Black contaminate. Just curious if anyone else has had this problem, and/or if anyone thinks the mycelium will kill off the contam or are the jars doomed?

Thanks for the help!

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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Jars are doomed. I tend to agree with you concerning the syringe. If you followed the same procedure for the other jars, innoculated them at the same time, and only the EQ jars are bad, I would start looking at the syringe.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
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I got my first spore syringe (eq) from ralph and it was fine. But this was like 3 or 4 months ago.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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Hi Sick_Of_It_All, I too purchased 2 contammed syringe of Ecuador from RALPH and yes the mold was of the black variety. That was awhile ago though so I doubt it was from the same batch. In any case Ralph replaced mine and I'm sure he'll do the same for you.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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Contam probs have nothing to do with a strain.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Stolichnaya]
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What makes you so sure the syringes were contaminated? I bet it was your error.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: pleezr]
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In reply to:
Contam probs have nothing to do with a strain.


He is only relating it to a syringe because that is how he can differentiate between spore sources. Do you disagree that discrete syringes are independent of each other when it comes to contamination?


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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here is one picture that i also posted in the contamination forum. there was 6 jars total all with the same problem.....still unsure if this is really a contamination problem or a piss problem.....

however the EQ?s were purchased from Ralph about a month ago....also at the same time there were 6 jars of Hawaiians made, also from Ralph and they are great.....all 12 were done using the same tek. So this is why i THINK it might have been a syringe problem..

i did not contact Ralph over this. I am a newbie and am not gonna cry about it. It was only one syringe!
Just letting know my story.

Yes i would use Ralph again.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: La_casper]
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Looks like contamination to me, but it's difficult to ID with that pic.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
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Well all 6 jars of EQ were scraped.....

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: La_casper]
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That's what I would have done.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
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Cut off some of the good myclieum and stick that into some new jars. They will go faster b/c the spores dont have to germinate. Just dont get a piece around the black mold part though.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
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In reply to:
He is only relating it to a syringe because that is how he can differentiate between spore sources. Do you disagree that discrete syringes are independent of each other when it comes to contamination?

heh, your question has nothing to do with my statement. So why do you ask? If you read the subject of the thread you can see my meaning. Do you disagree with me? Are some strains more likely to contam? It was human error.

BTW, you retaliating because I quoted you earlier? Seems so, either way that is fine with me, have at it...


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: pleezr]
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This doesn't have to be a pissing contest. I was just responding to your assumption that it was his error. Also, the question I asked was independent of your question -- it was to satisfy my curiosity.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: mickey_rourke]
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Sure it does! I can piss really far and write my name. Lets have a pissing contest. I like drinkin', pukin', pissin' and fightin'!


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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// turns around and walks back out of post

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: La_casper]
    #784775 -

Hey there,

Did you scrap them to the outside tek or the trashcan tek?

Best regards,

KingBolete

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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I had the exact same problem. I also ordered from Ralphster's. Every strain but the EQ's I got are going GREAT, but the EQ all got black pin mold?!?! I also thought this was my error, but since I saw this post and I also know of one other person on the board that had the exact same problem (same strain / same contam / same vendor)

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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I have noticed this with a few of Ralph's syringes. The latest with a Pan. Cyan. syringe. Although its not horribly frequent its annoying. I can chalk it up to the syringe itself because 12 jars were innoculated with 4 different syringes, two from Vendor1, 1 from Ralph, and 1 from Vendor2. Each syringe had 3 jars of rye prepared at the same time in the same manner. All three of the jars from ralph's syringe have a black mildew. The other 9 jars are doing perfectly fine.

But this can't all be pushed on Ralph as having bad sterility measures. I have actually gotten quite a few contamed syringes from Vendor1 aswell. But out of probably 10 from ralph and 12 from Vendor2, I got 2 bads from ralph and like 5 from Vendor2(usually bacteria and cobweb).

Sometimes a single batch can go bad, and without rigoruous quality control bad syringes can slip out to customers. For those of you that have bad ones contact ralph and I'm sure he'll make good!


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
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My personal experiences with EQ strain:

This is my first time growing, and I bought 1 EQ strain syringe from www.sporeworks.com and had 100% success rate with my 10 jars. None of them were contaminated (and I am very happy/proud of this, since it was my first attempt )

- Demon53

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #785039 -

just got black mold in my eq quart jars...
it pissed me off greatly.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: pleezr]
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reply to: What makes you so sure the syringes were contaminated? I bet it was your error.

i've had the same problem but not with ralphster.
but i mean if you had like 40 jars, innoculated with 3 different strains on the same day. and the one specific strain of jars fuct up. i would bet that it was the syringe and not error. 'cause error would cause the other jars to fuck up too.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
    #785453 -

I got my very first syringe (EQ) from Ralphster on 6/10/02. I initially created 7 1/2 pint jars PC'd @ 12.5psi for 20min, and they all got black pin mold at around 70% growth. I then tried the honey tek using 1cc of spore solution, PC'd @ 15psi for 20min. It too got the same mold. I then created 3 more jars using the addition of the Ramsey seal, the ovek tek and liberal amounts of lysol spray in my kitchen, PC'd @ 20psi for 20min. Once again, the same mold showed up. In all cases I used the optimal frutiing substrate formula as dictated by the PF tek--1/4cup BRF, 1/2cup verm, 60cc water.

On 7/13/02 I created one jar from an EQ syringe purchased from SporeWorks. The jar has now reached 100%, and there is not one sign of mold in these.

I think you and I, and apparently others, were just unlucky to get some dirty syringes.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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I figured with Ralph being such a reliable vedor this was a rare instance, and I talked to him today and he will be replacing my bad syringes

Ralphster is one of the greatest and most reliable vendors on this board and he is the epitome (sp?) of what this community is all about! thanks Ralph!!!

Ralphster's Spores check him out!!!

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Darkmoon]
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As with everything in life, shit happens. Caps are not sterile by their nature. So, prints from those caps can -- as -- with everything else in life can contain unwanted things.

LOL, not long ago, the Raccoon placed an order with a vendor that, ending up getting exposed to some very high heat in a mail box. That heat killed those spores, all except one strain, for reasons the Coon will never know. He did'nt ask for a refund from the vendor. Heat & nature did it, not the Vendor.

In another instance, with an order from another Vendor one syringe of a certain strain appeared to be contam'ed. Because it got the blue funk after being innoc'ed into some rye grain jars. Excepting, the same syringe was also used to innoc a couple straight white millet jars also. The Rye jars went bad from a contam, the white millet jars innocc'ed with the same syringe did not. So, that one the Raccoon blamed on the Rye, not the syringe.

To start squaking, when you don't know where the contam came from?

Is ......... Well, you know.

The reputable vendors are just that.

This is by no means a perfect science. Sometimes you win, sometimes not.

Shit happens. Sometimes when it is no ones fault.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: KingBolete]
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In reply to:
Hey there,

Did you scrap them to the outside tek or the trashcan tek?

Best regards,

KingBolete




They were trash can tekd



there is another photo that was taken right before TRASH.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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I did EQ's for the first time last month and had a contam problem as well. I noticed that you used the birdseed tek?? Well I blame the prob mostly on how I prepared my birdseed, I wasnt sure if I had to soak or rinse the finseed first, so I just threw the seed in and added the water. The jars seemed ok after PC'ing them and I inoculated...Either I screwed up withpreparing the water content, soaking etc...or the EQ's are less resistant to higher incubation temps and higher than avg moisure...is a guess...Im prob totaly wrong......I would double check your incubator temps and moisture.....and make sure your incubator is very clean, i never washed my from previous use....so all of that is a factor if you say that you were very clean inoculating


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Northernsoul]
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well the tek that was used is as posted below:

5 cup seed
10 cup water
boil 1.5 hours
3 cup verm

jard
P. cook 1 hour@15psi

as told by a friend

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Northernsoul]
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I guess I should have been more clear:

I wasn't trying to say anything bad about Ralphster, I have nothing but good things to say, excellent service and I will for sure use him again! I was just letting the vendor be known to see if anyone else was experiencing this so I could be sure that it was the syringe, didn't want to ask for a replacement if I was the only one. Sorry if it seemed like I was talking shit, cuz I wasn't tryin too.

Trashcan? yeah right, those puppies got dumped outside, hopefully something will happen =) Other than a black mold growing in my yard.

Edited by Sick_Of_It_All (07/30/02 11:53 AM)

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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Edited by ralphster44 (07/31/02 03:30 AM)

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thank you.

As i stated earlier....i would use Ralph again.


and yes those 6 EQ jars where trashed.....Now they are gonna be in some land fill somewhere

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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In reply to:
My goal is that you get mushrooms from what I ship you...



Ralph... I HATE to sound like (asshole) Mycotek, but isn't that a rather dangerous/risky statement to make?


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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Um, if you absolutly think that its your vendors vault, then contact them. Its not fair to mention vendors in a negative light when posting threads unless you get negative service from a vendor.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Northernsoul]
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Oh yeah, and that jar that you posted with the brown liquidy stuff...thats just mycellium pee....a by product of mycellium when developing I belive.....correct me if im wrong.......And is it just me or is this thread way too over reacted?


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Northernsoul]
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who is over reacting?

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Darkmoon]
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I really didn't see anyone over-reacting. People get pissed when they see contams but I did not read the post as coming from someone that is pissed. I read a rather matter of fact post about someone who bought a contammed syringe from Ralph. Shit happens, who was over-reacting?

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Demon53]
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I just found out this weekend that the 2 PR syringes I got from Ralph BOTH had mold spores and it was BLACK. I'm not happy about this at all, I'm PM'ng him now.

Has he sent anyone else their replacements yet? I'm very dissapointed.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ]
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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Ralph, I don't appreciate you insinuating I'm a liar. I PM'd you my name and address and told you my problem and your only response was "whoa....I dont have problems here. I dont have black mold or anything...never did.
I dont get contams here. "

Yeah Ralph, it looks like I'm the one stuck with the problem. So I assume your not going to replace my syringes? YOU SUCK!

No customer service at all except when you take the money. After that it's all the customers fault.

I'll go to Sporeworks next time, you are a crook!

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ]
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You only have 2 posts, I don't blame him lol.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ]
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Well I have only ordered spores from fanaticus one time (my first time, growing my first batch right now!), and I was such a newb I only asked for P. Cubensis spores! I didn't really know about the different strains or anything. I have done countless searches here educating myself about the different vendors and members of the board and I think that I will order spores from ralph when I do order my second bunch of spores. He seems like a very honest and understanding guy who has been nothing but nice to everyone with problems that he most likely isn't responsible for. You, on the other hand, seem like you just want to fight and start crap. This is coming from a completely objective third party, so take my viewpoint as you will : )

Anyway, Ralph, I'll be PMing you soon about ordering some spores.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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Send him some syringes, and everyone can STFU! End of story.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: boxtop703]
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To be quite honest I recieved one Syringe of EQ from Ralph about a month ago and have had no problems. I would suggest you up your PC time. I found Ralph to be quick to ship, quick to respond and an all around pleasure to deal with.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Mahakala]
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I too think everyone needs to get off of ralphs nutz......... i mean geee wizzzzz

Yes i did post the pic of the jars in question, and alot of people have stated the piss factor, However if you would take the time to go to the contaminated section i also posted a pic once the same jar was open, of some nice nasty black shit sitting on top of the seed.............

I think Ralph is a honest guy and he did make it right by sending me a new syringe....but keep in mind i did have photos to stake my claim.......Do you?
Personnally i do not think ralph should have to send out re-placements just cause you PM'ed saying his shit was bad.........to me that is complete bullshit.
if you cannot back your claims up with some kind of picture then i too would say you are out of luck.


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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Well, mine were PR's and not Ecuador. Don't bother sending me a thing Ralph as another vendor pm'd me and is offering replacements.

Thanks for the great service.

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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: ralphster44]
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How can you trace the source of contams back to a syringe?I guess theres no way to resterilize a syringe hmmm interesting...


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Re: Anyone else have contam. probs. with Equador? [Re: Sick_Of_It_All]
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i had bought PESA, PR, and Eq's from ralph when he had his special going. All has turned out fairly well. Lost a few to contams, but hardly blame the syringes. I have only been doing birdseed for my last couple dozen jars and have only been infected with a brown mold.. or green. No one has helped me identify the brown mold although it is pretty hard from the shotty pictures i took (no digital camera, just a webcam)

But i must say i am pleased with the results of ralph's spores. Thank you Ralph for your great deal and wish me the best of luck in.. uh.. studying these amazing.. spores.. yeah.. spores

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