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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: deCypher]
    #8069336 - 02/25/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I agree cypher, plus these experiences are totally unpredictable, so doing it in front of Randi would be hard to impossible. No one knows the full potential of the human mind, especially when its in higher states of consciousness.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: deCypher]
    #8069342 - 02/25/08 05:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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However, I do find issue with your argument that just because Huston Smith had a one-sided telepathic/empathetic experience and the other person had no idea what was going on, this "proves" that mental communication under these conditions is impossible.




It is a counter-anecdote. The argument is that self deception/misinterpretation is not uncommon, even in seasoned, well-educated trippers who are familiar with human psychology.

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If two people believe that they talked mentally, who are we to say that they didn't?



I merely state that amongst millions of trippers, it has yet it has yet to be confirmed by unbiased and trained observers.

My certainty is such that I have, and will continue to, wager my own money against it.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8069440 - 02/25/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

cypher's are important to communication i think things are rather predictable but we like to pretend they arent. This world is rather finite just somethings are less probable that others. while at other times the seemly improbable is probable.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: yageman]
    #8070453 - 02/25/08 10:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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yageman said:
I have dreamed about the next day before.

I have, dreamed about words and upon waking thats the first word or name I see on TV.

I have had conversations with a friend(my only trip buddy) that on the surface seem like we are entirely telepathic. Talking with our hands to make sentences shorter for example by making geometric signs.

I have never had telepathic communication with anyone, but if someone was ever around when we are talking on a high dose of lsd, they would be sort of convinced.


Me and my buddy and a few other people know how to navigate eachothers minds.
Id hardly call it telepathy, but its pretty mind blowing.
Come to think of it, it really is almost unbelievable.

When egoless, you can follow the same paths and access the same things. You become one.
Finishing someones thought in full is nothing.
To know where the conversation is going and knowing your psychedelic partner knows too, is astonishing.
To see the end of the conversation before the middle.
A series of loops that are revisited many times after many hours of tripping and you both still understand the structure of the almost divine egoless communication.

When the self is not connected and some primal overmind takes over, im not so sure that telepathy doesnt exist.

I have seen some strange shit.
Ill leave it at that.




This is actually a solid summary of my "argument" for the feasibility of telepathy. WHen actually in the midst of it, it's so real that it doesn't matter if it's "possible". There really is nothing more fun than getting into each others minds and taking conversation to a level above reality. Ah, the memories...

The "egoless" trip that lets you conform with other people entirely is probably one of the most far out things I've thus experienced.

~Now if you'll mind me, the local news has Salvia on the TV and of course, it's "evil" and "dangerous" and "OMG LEGAL!!!"


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Will I get out of it this time?
What was I thinking, taking this leap
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