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Telepathic Communication
    #7833618 - 01/04/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Has anyone had any experience that has proved to them without a shadow of a doubt that telepathic communication is possible? Before the other night I had a few experiences that hinted that it was possible, but then again all these experiences could have been explained by extreme coincidences.

But then the other day while on acid I was testing my theory of telecommunication and had 2 very strange experiences pretty much proving to me that telepathic communication is very possible.

The first could be passed off as just coincidence, and invovled me texting someone and mentally instructing them how to respond, and receiving the exact response that i expected.

The second experience involved me talking with someone about this idea of telecommunication and other topics such as our ability to create our on own realities, and during this conversation we were very much so communicating via thought, and at one point the person i was talking with instantly verbalized a message I was sending to him telepathicly to prove it was happening.

So yea just wondering has anyone else had similar experineces that proved to them this phenomenon is possible?


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7833640 - 01/04/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

damn... this brings up shit. I've been having this problem for almost 2 years now. Notice I said, 'problem.' be careful with that, some vibes get trapped or something. Hard to get rid of, takes a ton of meditation and shit.

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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: ny2casports89]
    #7833652 - 01/04/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

I've had some eerily spiritual like experiences on LSD that were very interesting and shocking when they occured because I've never believed in that kind of thing. 

I don't think it is "real" telepathy, but I do think that psychadelics allow you a lot more access into both your own and other people's minds than you normally have.  I don't think it's somehow supernatural though, I simply think that we become more in tune with our animal instincts and subconscious while tripping.

We also make up things in our minds sometimes... :shrug:

It doesn't make it any less spectacular or fascinating in my mind though.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: imachavel]
    #7833655 - 01/04/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

yeah so what... but seriously yeah i have done a deal of work with tele empathic shit


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7833684 - 01/04/08 09:28 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

yeah this is about as hardcore proof as you can get... so my buddy and i were in hawaii and on huge doses of very strong lsd. well we were standing in the water up to our knees and i will never forget this. all of a sudden i blurt out what sounds like gibber gabberish to me, but my friend who is persian all of a sudden looks at me with his mouth wide agape going dude u just finished the thought i was having in my head in farse' so i basically spoke farse' to him even though i have no idea of the language at all. it was pretty weird, we still talk about it


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7833696 - 01/04/08 09:30 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

I have dreamed about the next day before.

I have, dreamed about words and upon waking thats the first word or name I see on TV.

I have had conversations with a friend(my only trip buddy) that on the surface seem like we are entirely telepathic. Talking with our hands to make sentences shorter for example by making geometric signs.

I have never had telepathic communication with anyone, but if someone was ever around when we are talking on a high dose of lsd, they would be sort of convinced.

Me and my buddy and a few other people know how to navigate eachothers minds.
Id hardly call it telepathy, but its pretty mind blowing.
Come to think of it, it really is almost unbelievable.

When egoless, you can follow the same paths and access the same things. You become one.
Finishing someones thought in full is nothing.
To know where the conversation is going and knowing your psychedelic partner knows too, is astonishing.
To see the end of the conversation before the middle.
A series of loops that are revisited many times after many hours of tripping and you both still understand the structure of the almost divine egoless communication.

When the self is not connected and some primal overmind takes over, im not so sure that telepathy doesnt exist.

I have seen some strange shit.
Ill leave it at that.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: LedHead]
    #7833698 - 01/04/08 09:31 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

now use it for healing... which people have been doing for how long...
i might add then in response to yageman i dream most great days but purposely put stuff in the dream differnt so that its equally fun but i dont know exactly or when things will happen cause then things wouldnt be as fun or atleast to me. Its fun


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7833727 - 01/04/08 09:42 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

one time on salvia i swear i thought i spoke to my dog telepathicly. i just transposed my thoughts on him and he did exactly what i wanted him to do


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: john111]
    #7833737 - 01/04/08 09:44 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

as i have said this isnt anything new culture of the americas and the west droned it out and made people belive alot of lies about it to the point people use it to block stuff out and fight it. its rather silly. there has been way to much mind minipulation


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7834013 - 01/04/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

On salvia me and a friend could read each others minds a bit.

Since we are all just strings of energy vibrating to create what we visualize then yes we are all connected.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: john111]
    #7834698 - 01/05/08 08:01 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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john111 said:
one time on salvia i swear i thought i spoke to my dog telepathicly. i just transposed my thoughts on him and he did exactly what i wanted him to do




I've done the same on shrooms. Had quite a good convo with him, interesting.

I've had the telepathy thing happen many times. It's nothing new.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: future]
    #7834718 - 01/05/08 08:26 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

The mind if capable of anything.


A kid I work with told me a story about how him and his friends were tripping on a big dose of LSD, they said they were seeing the wall change colors, but they were all seeing the same color. He said one person would call off red and they would all see red, not really telepathy but you get the idea.

Also one time when I was on a 8 grams, I had just experienced ego death and my friend was completely gone. Shroomed out, the only thing I could think of to bring him back to reality was to hug him. He just looked so alone, so confused. I'll never forget feeling that me and him were completely one. The barrier were my body ended and his began disappeared. No shrooms don't make me gay.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: ny2casports89]
    #8068740 - 02/25/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hi,

I think this counts: 1968. A friend, Fred, and I, unbeknownst to each other both bought shrooms from a dealer passing through town. They had been frozen and thawed and were essentially mush. We took them back t our respective abodes, about 6 blocks apart, and took them. Each of us was living with our then current girlfriends at the time. Each of them took one look at the mush and respectfully declined. Fast forward to an hour later. I'm playing with s spirograph, feeling extremely tranquilly relaxed. I hear Fred's voice and I speak out loud, "Say, Fred". My girlfriend wants to know who I'm talking to. I tell her Fred. She tells me Fred's not here. I tell her that I must be I'm hallucinating Fred's voice, and not to worry about it. Fred and I have a short conversation - the kind you would have bumping into one another on the street: What's up? Nothing much. Yeah, same here. Later. Yup, later.

I thought nothing of it until the next day, when we walk into the local coffee shop. Fred and his girlfriend are there, and jump up and excitedly tell me "You were in our apartment last night!!" Fred says, "You were talking with me!!"

It turns out that they had had essentially the same experience -- she stayed straight, Fred ate the goo, and he was having a conversation out loud with me.

It turns out that the traveling salesman had been busted, and the shrooms contained a health dose of tranquilizer as well, per the Syracuse NY police department.

So my world view was altered by the experience, but I still spent a career on Wall Street of all places, and am retiring to a finca in the mountains of Puerto Rico. The story still gives me a little rush. It never happened again - I never did shrooms again, preferring the electricity of acid and eventually that lost its luster too. Been pretty straight for a long time. But it's still a great story when the topic comes up.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: xanadu123]
    #8068786 - 02/25/08 02:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Do it in front of Randi (or any of a dozen skeptic organizations) and win a million dollars, shift the entire scientific paradigm for all time, do what everyone else has failed to do for thousands of years, retire and get all the drugs and chicks you want.

Or

Pretend that your tripping experiences are more than your mind on drugs and giggle and amaze your gullible friends and strangers on the internet with cool dope tales.

Which is the more sensible course of action for one who believes?


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8068905 - 02/25/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Do it in front of Randi (or any of a dozen skeptic organizations) and win a million dollars, shift the entire scientific paradigm for all time, do what everyone else has failed to do for thousands of years, retire and get all the drugs and chicks you want.





The very reason this hasn't been attempted yet is the same reason why you can't legally order LSD or do scientific research on psychedelics without going through years of DEA red tape... Western culture is very wary of anything that could even bring up the possibility of legalizing these drugs. On a personal note, I've had full on conversations with a good friend while on an LSA trip where only three words were spoken out loud and the rest was communicated mentally. I confirmed this phenomenon multiple times by "telling" my friend to speak out loud at a precise moment--and he did (which still blows my mind).

Of course, whether or not this is merely similar to the phenomenon of deja vu (where you think you remember events but instead your brain is only making it seem like it) or whether something telepathic is going on, is a whole other question.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8068936 - 02/25/08 03:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

This isn't really telepathy, but ever get confused between who is who when tripping with a buddy? I have a tripping friend, and on our last trip a few weeks ago - I thought/felt that he and I were one person. It wasn't even a thought - nothing like a theory or say - a deduction. More like an observation, noting the obvious: that he and I were one being. - It was pretty confusing, and I really don't know what to make of it.

If telepathy implies merging of minds, what is merging of identities?


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: deCypher]
    #8068940 - 02/25/08 03:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

There has been no DEA at certain gatherings nor among groups of tripping friends that thought as you did. Yet none could do as they said they could.

In Huston Smith's classic "The Psychology of Religious Experience", he tells of how he had a telepathic / empathetic experience on psilocybin. Later he approached the person that he had the alleged experience with and the other person had no idea what he was talking about.

Huston realized the experience was merely a tripping projection.

See, here is the deal: people NEVER report their psychic failures only their hits. Gee, two people of the same age and culture thought of the same new album that was just released. How spooky!


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8068971 - 02/25/08 03:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

people get freeked out when your not even on 1/4th the drugs their on and tripping harder


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8069081 - 02/25/08 04:20 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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There has been no DEA at certain gatherings nor among groups of tripping friends that thought as you did. Yet none could do as they said they could.

In Huston Smith's classic "The Psychology of Religious Experience", he tells of how he had a telepathic / empathetic experience on psilocybin. Later he approached the person that he had the alleged experience with and the other person had no idea what he was talking about.

Huston realized the experience was merely a tripping projection.

See, here is the deal: people NEVER report their psychic failures only their hits. Gee, two people of the same age and culture thought of the same new album that was just released. How spooky!




i don't know about you guys, but my tripping partner is also my best friend, i mean i have been hanging out with this guy for 10ish years almost and when we trip together, he knows what i am thinking, i know what hes thinking, and its not just about music or cool shit, its completely unspoken and just a glance at each can totally confirm that right then, we thought the same thing and usually act on it (IE thirst, music changes (and trust me, its nothing popular) scenery changes and hell even nicotine consumption) i don't know if its telepathy or just something at the time clicking because we have the same general interests. it gets weird though but its nice to know that at least someone is on the same level i am.


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Re: Telepathic Communication [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8069230 - 02/25/08 05:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

To preface my argument as devil's advocate, let me state that I am a raging skeptic at heart, and so definitely do not accept people's accounts of telepathy via psychedelics at face value.

However, I do find issue with your argument that just because Huston Smith had a one-sided telepathic/empathetic experience and the other person had no idea what was going on, this "proves" that mental communication under these conditions is impossible. Huston Smith could have had many other experiences such as these where both parties were convinced that thought transfer was actually occurring. One case study does not a proof make, and even though I agree with you that most people never report their psychic failures, I believe the sheer magnitude of "valid" experiences mandates at least some form of scientific research.

Here's an interesting question for you: If two people believe that they talked mentally, who are we to say that they didn't? After all, you can't prove to me that you're actually thinking right now. In this case, we have to leave some room for faith in the observer to believe that you have a mind and are thinking, both things of which have NEVER been demonstrated by science or the scientific method.


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