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I don't get this quote
    #7832881 - 01/04/08 05:53 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

From Isaac Asimov's Book of facts: published in 1980:

"If the population of the Earth were to continue to increase at the present rate indefinitely, by 3530 A.D. the total mass of human flesh and blood would equal the mass of the earth. By 6826 A.D. the total mass of human flesh and and blood would equal the mass of the known universe."

This is astounding to me because I've also heard the universe is so large it would take 20 years going the speed of light just to get to the next galaxy, I mean these are huge statistics. How could this be possible?


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7832895 - 01/04/08 05:58 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

I dont think its supposed to be taken so literally


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Acyl]
    #7832898 - 01/04/08 05:59 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

It's a book of FACTS.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7832931 - 01/04/08 06:12 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Just because he has the same first name as Sir Isaac Newton does not mean he invented gravity.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7832932 - 01/04/08 06:12 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Missed that part :lol:

Shit, well I dont know


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7832937 - 01/04/08 06:13 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Wolfgang said:
From Isaac Asimov's Book of facts: published in 1980:

"If the population of the Earth were to continue to increase at the present rate indefinitely, by 3530 A.D. the total mass of human flesh and blood would equal the mass of the earth. By 6826 A.D. the total mass of human flesh and and blood would equal the mass of the known universe."

This is astounding to me because I've also heard the universe is so large it would take 20 years going the speed of light just to get to the next galaxy, I mean these are huge statistics. How could this be possible?




Human growth is exponential. Small numbers get really big, really fast. Yes, even that large. Haven't you ever sat around with a calculator, bored in class just pressing the '=' button watching the number err out your calculator?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth

http://www.otherwise.com/population/exponent.html


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: toastandjam]
    #7832944 - 01/04/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

DAMN!



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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7832946 - 01/04/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

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This is astounding to me because I've also heard the universe is so large it would take 20 years going the speed of light just to get to the next galaxy




Try 2 million,,, the milky way's 150000 light years across.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7832962 - 01/04/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

The simple fact is that in a few years, there just won't be enough food to feed all those people, so the population would not be able to increase at that same rate.
Famine and wars have always been the most significant factors in reducing population, followed closely by widespread epidemics.

But speaking purely from a empirical viewpoint, exponential growth without considering practical limits would lead to such astronomical figures.
Fortunately, that's not really something we need to be concerned with.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7832982 - 01/04/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

exponents are expotent


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: notapillow]
    #7832987 - 01/04/08 06:28 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

imponents are impotent. like they have a hard time getting it up and shit.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Mike_yy]
    #7833027 - 01/04/08 06:37 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

mikeyyork said:
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This is astounding to me because I've also heard the universe is so large it would take 20 years going the speed of light just to get to the next galaxy




Try 2 million,,, the milky way's 150000 light years across.




The universe is pretty empty for it's size.
Very little mass


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7833049 - 01/04/08 06:45 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Wolfgang said:
By 6826 A.D. the total mass of human flesh and and blood would equal the mass of the known universe.



Total bullshit. How did they get this number when you have to consider the mass of all the planets,stars,asteroids,comets, and black holes which have multiple solar masses?

There's no way human flesh and blood would ever equal all of that.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Mike_yy]
    #7833051 - 01/04/08 06:46 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

mikeyyork said:
Quote:

This is astounding to me because I've also heard the universe is so large it would take 20 years going the speed of light just to get to the next galaxy




Try 2 million,,, the milky way's 150,000 light years across.




How fast is the speed of light?


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: CosmicFool]
    #7833066 - 01/04/08 06:50 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

CosmicFool said:
Quote:

mikeyyork said:
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This is astounding to me because I've also heard the universe is so large it would take 20 years going the speed of light just to get to the next galaxy




Try 2 million,,, the milky way's 150000 light years across.




The universe is pretty empty for it's size.
Very little mass




True,, though they think there's the dark matter that we don't understand yet,, that's still pretty much a theory tho i think,,, not sure..

I was just putting the "20 years" thing straight,, :grin:


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7833067 - 01/04/08 06:51 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Wolfgang said:
How fast is the speed of light?



3×10^8 m/s
670,616,629.2 miles per hour
983,571,056 feet per second
186,282.397 miles per second or roughly one foot per nanosecond.
299,792,458 metres per second

very fast


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Wolfgang]
    #7833071 - 01/04/08 06:51 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

I don't know,,, google it man,, :cool:


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Mike_yy]
    #7833183 - 01/04/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

I just saw a cool BBC documentary about absolute zero yesterday. There was an experiment done where light was directed through a matter with nearly zero thermal energy (meaning just few millidegrees over absolute zero). And what happened was that the speed of light slowed down to speed achievable with bicycle. And that moment when it left the matter it regained its speed and burst right forward with unimaginable speed. So for a split of second you really was able to see the actual light speeding. It was pretty neat.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Individual]
    #7833216 - 01/04/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Did they mention how they were able to bring the matter down to near zero temperature?


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Individual]
    #7833248 - 01/04/08 07:31 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

That essentially claims to disprove relativity, doesnt it?

I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt give the full story behind what was happening.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Individual]
    #7833313 - 01/04/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

some real neat stuff happens when it gets cold enough; electricity will flow w/o resistance, and razors will stay sharp longer.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: CosmicFool]
    #7833316 - 01/04/08 07:49 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

and things shrink


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: CosmicFool]
    #7833335 - 01/04/08 07:56 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

CosmicFool said:
Quote:

mikeyyork said:
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This is astounding to me because I've also heard the universe is so large it would take 20 years going the speed of light just to get to the next galaxy




Try 2 million,,, the milky way's 150000 light years across.




The universe is pretty empty for it's size.
Very little mass




Says the guy who is 99.9999999999999% empty space.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7833342 - 01/04/08 07:57 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

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andyistic said:
Did they mention how they were able to bring the matter down to near zero temperature?



In that experiment some kind of metal was vaporized. It was cesium if I'm not wrong. The vaporized gas was held in prison in some sort of magnetic field. Then they affected it with some lasers working on certain frequencies causing the atoms in the cloud of gas to slow down until stopping. That way they achieved a temperature just few thousands of millidegrees above absolute zero.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Individual]
    #7833354 - 01/04/08 08:01 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Magnetic fields and lasers you say?
I'm gonna head down to my local Wal*Mart and see if they have those.
I've got some major refridgeration projects to try. :lol:

Seriously though, that level of technology is quite amazing.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Acyl]
    #7833361 - 01/04/08 08:05 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Some of the stats he's got obviously seem to be outdated.

He's just talking about the rate of the growth. Humans won't even last to the year 3000 as far as I'm concerned.

The carrying capacity of the Earth would just not be able to sustain and that's a FACT.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7833362 - 01/04/08 08:05 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

If you're interested in the movie and know how to use torrents then why not go to mvgroup.org and download it yourself. It will be worth it. There's some pretty cool stuff in that movie. It's named "the race for absolute zero" and shows all the way mankind has gone to achieve this unachievable cold. The absolute zero still remains unachievable though.


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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Individual]
    #7833398 - 01/04/08 08:16 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Thanks for the tip. :thumbup:

Considering that energy is coming from all directions (radio waves, static electricity,etc.) it would be evident that achieving absolute zero is an impossibility.
The presense of any form of energy would generate heat.

I'm gonna check out that video now ...

And just as a side note:



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Re: I don't get this quote [Re: Individual]
    #7833436 - 01/04/08 08:23 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

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mvgroup.org 




Nice site,, :thumbup:

I recommend all the 'Horizon''s,, haven't seen one yet that wasn't entertaining.


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