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InvisibleChronic7
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Kratom?
    #7831915 - 01/04/08 01:21 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Hey all, recently ive been interested in trying different drugs with mushrooms as when i tried nitrous with them it was incredible, i already take sum valerian root for the comedown to help releive anxiety and sleep. (along with a otn of weed)

Ive also bought a bag of premium passion flower which ill mix with my joints instead of tobacco...

Im now interested in kratom...but what to get pills, extract, leaf, resin?

Ideally id like some to make some tea with and maybe some herb to blend into a joint with the weed and pasison flower....whats the most effective way to take kratom? Ive found some 30X extract?

Also whats the effects like ive just seen euphoria?

If so mising with shroomz must be amazing!

Thanks!


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7832014 - 01/04/08 01:43 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Ive only tried regular ground up leaf.. a few mountain tablespoons of that stuff and I was nodding my face off..

I think the extracts are more expensive, you may be able to smoke it but im not sure if the effects of smoked extracts are worth the upped price


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Acyl]
    #7832078 - 01/04/08 02:05 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

cool so howd you go about making the spoons worth into tea, just boil and strain, how long etc...

Also whats the buzz like? :smile:


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7832490 - 01/04/08 04:07 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

At high doses its a nice opiate buzz.. medium doses its somewhat of a chill/stimulant.

I started off by making a tea. I'd boil it in hot water/lemon juice for a few mins, add some sugar/honey and down everything. Dont strain it, its the gunk at the bottom thats got most of the alkaloids..

The easiest way to down it is with some yogurt, you cant even taste the disgusting bitterness.


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7832557 - 01/04/08 04:23 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

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chronic777 said:
cool so howd you go about making the spoons worth into tea, just boil and strain, how long etc...

Also whats the buzz like? :smile:




For standard leaf, i use about 4 tbs in about 2 cups of water, and boil for twenty minutes. You can either stop there or you can set aside the tea, take the strained kratom and re-boil in 2 more cups of water. Then combine the 4 cups of tea and boil down into single shot (kratom is some of the worst tasting shit ever, you dont want to drink more than you have to).

Do this and you'll have about 1 hour of intense opiate like high and some incredible euphoria. Plus if you take it close to bed time, you'll probobly have some pretty vivid dreams.


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7833191 - 01/04/08 07:22 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Yep, as they say the effects are similar to a mild opiate (I say "mild" because no one is going to confuse Kratom with morphine) -- a tranquil flavor of euphoria. The way I've used it has (almost) always been to get a bit of 10x or 15x extract and plop it into the blender along with ice and ingredients to make a smoothie. The fine extract blends well and you don't need much of it to achieve the desired effects, so the taste isn't an issue this way.


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #7838524 - 01/06/08 09:22 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

would it be better to have it before shrooming or after?

im thinking it would make for a nice come up?


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7839775 - 01/06/08 02:30 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

i'd say after, if only because if you over do it you'll end up hugging the toilet, which may not be how you want to spend your trip.


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Re: Kratom? [Re: teaparty]
    #7842464 - 01/07/08 06:46 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

like vomiting u mean?


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7843032 - 01/07/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

If you misjudge your dose, as in take to much, you will be spending some time down and out on the bed or couch because doing anything else will cause you to puke your guts out. Trust me, I know, this is why I recommend a scale to measure out doses.

As for taking it before a dose of mushrooms-

I read an article once on erowid, that I cannot find now, that said mitragynine acts against psychedelic compounds.

I have been known to be wrong from time to time and like I said I cannot find the article so..

I of course would recommend taking kratom after a psychedelic session, or in all honesty, on a totally separate night just to enjoy its effects on their own.


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Re: Kratom? [Re: K20A2]
    #7843254 - 01/07/08 11:49 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I definatly want to try it and am sure ill like it, i tried swallowing bits of resin a few years back and i didnt feel any euphoria i just felt REALLY stoned, and a bit sick. Im now more in tune with my body and think ill be able to appreciate it.

So the best for me to do is get the powdered extract and then make a smoothie?

i can get 30X extract resin stuff?
or the caps? (which loads of people say are wack)
or some 15X powdered extract?
or some "highQ" leaf?
or a big lump of resin?


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Re: Kratom? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7844150 - 01/07/08 03:39 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I sent you a PM

I mix my kratom in OJ. Stir and gulp.


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