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Jadian
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7835695 - 01/05/08 01:47 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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RandalFlagg said: So, a socialized health care system that is run by a government is fucked up and refuses to pay for treatment for this guy? I'm not surprised. Nor am I surprised when I hear about people dying because they were put on massive waiting lists in these countries because of scarce resources in the health care system.
I can agree with you that it's not going to be a system that will be able to be implemented fairly or effectively in America. It's the attitude of the people against it more than anything that bothers me. I can totally agree that anything our government tries to touch on a national level basically turns to shit.
It should be in the individuals hands to keep themselves as physically fit and healthy as possible, that's what I'm doing and even though I have all kinds of health insurance I never use it because I keep myself healthy and hate, HATE dealing with the insurance companies. I just think the attitude of "my money is more important than your life" is really fucked up.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835700 - 01/05/08 01:48 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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You must be a monk who has given up all possessions. Either that or a hypocrite. So how much did you steal from Little Jimmy's transplant fund when you bought that bong and that ounce of chronic? Real questions for a real world.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835707 - 01/05/08 01:51 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said:
It should be in the individuals hands to keep themselves as physically fit and healthy as possible, that's what I'm doing
Written by someone who currently has "stoned" for his mood.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Redstorm]
#7835708 - 01/05/08 01:51 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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are you serious. from what ive read, "They" can do anything they want. From building voting machines that can be hacked by a black berry - to tossing out absentee ballots
- Its the Golden Rule - the One with the gold, rules.
Bullshit. If that is the case then how did the Dems take the legislative branch?
if im not mistaken, you need 67 votes to win - and we (dems) have 51. So, winning is a semantic argument unless its a majority win.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: zappaisgod]
#7835714 - 01/05/08 01:53 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Don't have a bong and I grow my pot myself. I believe people should give within their means. I'm not a monk but I sure as hell could happily live as one. I don't have much, trust me. I'm living with two other people in a small, cheap, one bed-room apartment because I'm paying my way through college and this is the best we can do. I'm trying to become a nutritionist, or a healthy life style trainer, or something that's actually going to allow people to help themselves in this country because nobody else WANTS TO HELP ANYONE.
So don't act like I'm some spoiled little bitch spending his money on drugs and then telling people to spend their money on others. You don't know me or my situation, or you'd feel like a jackass for insinuating such (Which you should but people like you have no social conscience to begin with).
If ANYONE came to me and asked for help with something I could do, I'd oblige them. If they came asking me for helping them create a more healthy life-style or wanted to learn about martial arts, I'm more than happy to help them out. I don't have money to throw at people but I have knowledge I'm more than willing and able to pass around, and you can ask any of the multiple people that I have helped that.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: zappaisgod]
#7835724 - 01/05/08 01:57 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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It should be in the individuals hands to keep themselves as physically fit and healthy as possible, that's what I'm doing
Written by someone who currently has "stoned" for his mood.
As a matter of fact I could pass a drug test right now. I haven't smoked pot for quite some time at the moment. Just because I haven't changed my mood icon since it was implemented doesn't mean you know a goddamn thing about me.
I can promise you I'm leagues above you in physical fitness and physical/mental health. If I so chose to supplement my life with pot, what's that matter to you who thinks having more money or material possessions is more important than helping other people who don't have a leg to stand on?
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: zappaisgod]
#7835743 - 01/05/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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zappaisgod said: So how much did you steal from Little Jimmy's transplant fund when you bought that bong and that ounce of chronic?
hahahaha
Sorry Jadian, but I feel a need to interject a point here. Every person I have ever talked to who railed against "The System", money, consumerism, rich people, and selfishness and how we should all love each other and the poor should be given tons of free stuff....not a single one of them gave to charity. They spent all of their money on weed and stupid shit.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835755 - 01/05/08 02:05 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said: I can promise you I'm leagues above you in physical fitness and physical/mental health.
I'll bet you my nose looks way better than yours.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7835777 - 01/05/08 02:11 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Agreed. That's how a lot of my friends are. They sing about unity, peace, helping mankind, the corrupt government, etc. Great musicians, lousy at practicing what they preach. They spend $50+ a night on alcohol and sell pot so they can "smoke blunts" all day long.
How can you expect the average lower class citizen to give away a large % of their income to charity when you yourself gets queasy at the thought of giving away some of your money into health care for the underprivileged?
If I had a huge disposable income I'd do the best I could with it, but I think spreading knowledge is far more important than throwing a 10$ bill into the collection cups outside of Walmart.
I'm not your normal person. I believe in the teaching a man to fish as opposed to giving him a fish sort of deal. I'll probably never have enough money to give $1000's to charity or personally pay to help some kid with cancer (Unless my father, the millionaire, decides to put me BACK into his will, which he's expressed several times will never happen because of my particular ideals).
Money just isn't the driving factor in deciding what I do with my life, so I probably will always just have enough to get by, or learn to get by on what I have.
And I'm still happy, go figure.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835779 - 01/05/08 02:11 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said: You guys are right though, they shouldn't FORCE your money away from you. The fact that you guys aren't WILLING to give part of your money to people less fortunate than you is sad though. I've lived on the rich side of the fence, I know how they think, and it disgusted me to the point where I'm not even in contact with that side of my family anymore, and I gave up the financial blanket I could be covered with.
When people start caring about money more than people there is something FUCKED UP there.
That is very ignorant and presumptuous of you. Just because people don't believe in government coerced charity doesn't mean they are against voluntary charity.
I haven't given much in money to charities this year due to financial problems and the fact that I'm saving for my master's degree next year, I have donated 200+ hours this year between volunteering at a food kitchen down the street from my old apt. and tutoring underprivileged kids.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7835788 - 01/05/08 02:12 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Agreed. My nose has taken too many punches to be considered up there next to your right off the assembly line piece.
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Oracle Of Delphi said:
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are you serious. from what ive read, "They" can do anything they want. From building voting machines that can be hacked by a black berry - to tossing out absentee ballots
- Its the Golden Rule - the One with the gold, rules.
Bullshit. If that is the case then how did the Dems take the legislative branch?
if im not mistaken, you need 67 votes to win - and we (dems) have 51. So, winning is a semantic argument unless its a majority win.
No, it is not a semantic argument. If those in power control the votes, why let the Dems win at all? The Rep's had the WH and the Legislative. Now they only have the WH, which essentially gridlocks the system, preventing them from passing pretty much anything they wanted to.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835794 - 01/05/08 02:14 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said: The fact that you guys aren't WILLING to give part of your money to people less fortunate than you is sad though. I've lived on the rich side of the fence, I know how they think, and it disgusted me to the point where I'm not even in contact with that side of my family anymore, and I gave up the financial blanket I could be covered with.
When people start caring about money more than people there is something FUCKED UP there.
I honestly don't have the resources to help everyone. You get to a point where you're tired of it. You take care of home first and show compassion where it will be recieved with appreciation. I think I can manage my compassion better than the government.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Redstorm]
#7835800 - 01/05/08 02:15 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Redstorm said: I haven't given much in money to charities this year due to financial problems and the fact that I'm saving for my master's degree next year, I have donated 200+ hours this year between volunteering at a food kitchen down the street from my old apt. and tutoring underprivileged kids.
Well good for you, I'm sure a lot of people are really thankful that you did that kind of work. I'm not asking people to give up money they don't have, I sure as hell don't have any extra to throw away.
So you only care for the people you can physically see yourself helping then? Are you one of those people who only does the charity work so they can tell everyone how generous they are later on?
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835810 - 01/05/08 02:19 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said: Are you one of those people who only does the charity work so they can tell everyone how generous they are later on?
How can you possibly expect people to take you seriously in a debate when you say shit like this?
Do you always resort to making random personal attacks about people you've never met, when they present a case to counter an argument of yours?
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835814 - 01/05/08 02:20 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said: Are you one of those people who only does the charity work so they can tell everyone how generous they are later on?
That's me. I do it only so that I can have some ammunition in Shroomery debates like this.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835819 - 01/05/08 02:20 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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You tried to generalize. And then we provide proof otherwise, we are "one of those people..."
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Jadian]
#7835820 - 01/05/08 02:20 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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I don't care about telling people I do community service, but I am doing it for somewhat selfish means. All the service I do is always in a community I reside it (either neighborhood, city, or state) in order to improve the community that I live in. This not only helps others, but keeping homeless people fed and helping inner-city kids get educated cuts down on crime where I live and hopefully will help those kids become productive members of society one day.
I'll be the first to admit that I volunteer for partially selfish reason, but it's not the same selfish reasons most choose for doing it. I also have no problem with selfishness as long as it's being selfish merely to intentionally spite someone else.
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7835833 - 01/05/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Jadian said: Are you one of those people who only does the charity work so they can tell everyone how generous they are later on?
That's me. I do it only so that I can have some ammunition in Shroomery debates like this.
i only do charity work so i can laugh at all people less fortunate than me, which gets me off
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Re: Oh Fuck Me Mike Huckabee [Re: Redstorm]
#7835843 - 01/05/08 02:27 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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are you serious. from what ive read, "They" can do anything they want. From building voting machines that can be hacked by a black berry - to tossing out absentee ballots
- Its the Golden Rule - the One with the gold, rules.
Bullshit. If that is the case then how did the Dems take the legislative branch?
if im not mistaken, you need 67 votes to win - and we (dems) have 51. So, winning is a semantic argument unless its a majority win.
No, it is not a semantic argument. If those in power control the votes, why let the Dems win at all? The Rep's had the WH and the Legislative. Now they only have the WH, which essentially gridlocks the system, preventing them from passing pretty much anything they wanted to.
so, you are telling me that our Republican president gets "nothing"he wants because the Dems have control?
::DING:: time to make the donuts ood
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