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AbyssWP
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Drugs and confidence
#7830615 - 01/04/08 02:08 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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which drugs make you confident? To start off Id like to say that this thread is about drugs and what confidence level you are at during the trip. When I am sober, I would say my confidence level is somewhat low in some areas and somewhat high in other areas. example, in class I have no problem talking to a random person i dont know, or just yelling something out randomly. But say Im in a conversation with a girl, I am the one talking mostly but it takes a lot of willpower for me to have a conversation. When I smoke dat good ol maryjane, my confidence goes down the toilet. One time i went to the movies and a girl i knew (well ive seen her around) was working there, not that i had a crush on her or anything, bu i was extremely nervous or anxious, i dont know which one, to talk to her, to the point i was shaking when i was buyin a ticket from her. On the other hand, when i was sober i bought a ticket from this pretty lookin girl and i actually got her number. Also one time i got arrested when i was completely baked off 2 joints i could hardly stand up i was shakin so bad. but god damn i will tell you when I drink i feel like I can do anything i want.. i met these 2 chicks when i was drunk and I was just talkin to them about random shit I didnt even give a fuck and within 15 minutes they were all over my cock xD Once me and my friend walked into the movies without a ticket i kid you not we seriously didnt give a FUCK! But to do that stoned or even sober would take a lot of balls from me
So, what drugs have a positive confidence effect on you and which ones have a negative?
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#7830967 - 01/04/08 07:50 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Alcohol and benzos can lead to confidence, but sometimes confidence can appear to be pride. Pride, as described by my wife is like building a sandcastle. If you spend your time building a sandcastle then it's later consumed by the tide, you're overextending yourself. Find out where the tide hits, then build above that line. That's from a feminine perspective (not my own) and makes a lot of sense. I'm a big fan of gatecrashing myself, I'm a man, we do things like that. Don't drink and drive, but drink and demand to be driven. I tried that tonight, politely, and I wound up walking to the store. Walking in the Winter is nice, it builds your confidence. Like sniffing cocaine, or smoking Meth.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#7831029 - 01/04/08 08:09 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Coke, caffeine, LSD, Mushrooms, and alcohol confidence increases only when used in mild or sensible amounts.
Weed confidence goes by by, self-doubt increases.
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Revelations after my shroom trips have led me to become more confident than I have ever been before. It's not that I'm faking the confidence, it's that I know I have my inside issues squared away and that I'm a worthwhile personality.
You don't need drugs to be confident when you can develop confidence on your own. Understand yourself and it will come.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: arpnuke]
#7831376 - 01/04/08 10:00 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Anything increases my social confidence because if I say something to someone, whatever it may be, they'll take it as a drug-induced whatever.
Basically it's an excuse. But it's not like i dose and go out for that reason or anything.
Or I may feel more confident when I really need to talk to someone about something that I am uneasy otherwise discussing.
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AbyssWP
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What about vicodin? I popped 6 5/500 today but I didnt start feeling anything til about an hour after and i hotboxed an rx7 with some quality kush before full effects kicked in I was way too damn tired to do anything.. even think.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#7834478 - 01/05/08 03:44 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Alcohol...
but I don't really enjoy it all that much as a lot of people.
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Edited by adrian7812 (01/05/08 03:45 AM)
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#7834483 - 01/05/08 03:49 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Just thought I'd point out that acid has made me way more confident on a long term. Yeah, dig it.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AlCapwn]
#7834732 - 01/05/08 08:38 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Alcohol and Adderall
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: MindGorilla]
#7834770 - 01/05/08 09:03 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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I am always a reserved person who keeps to himself, but on Halloween I had some alcohol and I was so giddy and happy I wanted to hug random people on the street that were taking their kids out for candy.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: MindGorilla]
#7834776 - 01/05/08 09:07 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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From my experience, alcohol and ecstasy do this a lot. I've heard tweak does but I've never tried it. Cocaine too, I guess. Nicotine maybe, but I would say that has more to do with the social inevitability of being forced outside for a cigarette along with somebody else. Honestly, I've found that most drug-induced "confidence" is really just an inability to maintain proper concern for yourself and others. You might as well ask which drugs will make you the most careless.
As for long-term effects, well, psychedelics have made me somewhat more confident. They have done so much to show me that I am, in fact, rather sane, which helps me trust my own decisions. And sometimes I feel confident while I'm tripping, but other times I feel the exact opposite. It's not reliable and has more to do with my state of mind than the drug itself.
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Edited by Tchan909 (01/05/08 09:11 AM)
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I will say that I'm a very confident person, I've got lots going on for me. I smoke weed every day and am still extremely confident, but I can see where it does cause some self-doubt/anxiety/paranoia. These effects are only amplified with drugs such as LSD and mushrooms. LSD and mushrooms in low doses seems to greatly increase all around confidence, especially the physical aspects of this illusion, like control over voice, and bodily actions/functions. Sure alcohol increases confidence like an ignoramus with tunnel vision so caught up in his own life he ignores his pathetic contrast to the surrounding reality. I just don't like alcohol, love the weed shrooms and lsd though
But just like with pot, for those of you who smoke medicinal/very well grown stuff, different strains have very different social effects, so does alchol differ in its effects.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: outhere4]
#7835220 - 01/05/08 11:53 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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weed makes me not give a shit when i'm talking to people so i pretty much say whatever i want to the person
fun times
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: sashasch5]
#7835228 - 01/05/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Alcohol definately mdma can do it too
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: xpl0de]
#7835341 - 01/05/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Bars, Alcohol, and really mild doses of opiates.
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Mescaline hugely helps confidence.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: wendel]
#7835411 - 01/05/08 12:43 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Besides what everyone has already said, DXM makes me feel like I have godly powers.
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alcohol and lsd, dmt to some extent but a different type of confidence
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#7835497 - 01/05/08 01:05 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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AbyssWP said: which drugs make you confident? To start off Id like to say that this thread is about drugs and what confidence level you are at during the trip. When I am sober, I would say my confidence level is somewhat low in some areas and somewhat high in other areas. example, in class I have no problem talking to a random person i dont know, or just yelling something out randomly. But say Im in a conversation with a girl, I am the one talking mostly but it takes a lot of willpower for me to have a conversation. When I smoke dat good ol maryjane, my confidence goes down the toilet. One time i went to the movies and a girl i knew (well ive seen her around) was working there, not that i had a crush on her or anything, bu i was extremely nervous or anxious, i dont know which one, to talk to her, to the point i was shaking when i was buyin a ticket from her. On the other hand, when i was sober i bought a ticket from this pretty lookin girl and i actually got her number. Also one time i got arrested when i was completely baked off 2 joints i could hardly stand up i was shakin so bad. but god damn i will tell you when I drink i feel like I can do anything i want.. i met these 2 chicks when i was drunk and I was just talkin to them about random shit I didnt even give a fuck and within 15 minutes they were all over my cock xD Once me and my friend walked into the movies without a ticket i kid you not we seriously didnt give a FUCK! But to do that stoned or even sober would take a lot of balls from me
So, what drugs have a positive confidence effect on you and which ones have a negative?
Cocaine/Ecstasy/Meth will all up your confidence quite a bit- Acid/Shrooms make you cocky-but not necessarily confident since you feel that your behavior is weird.
Just a note though, don't do anything stupid like get HIV, or piss off some guy who is packing a gun and you're too stupid to see it.
Note #2: Usually, people with low self-esteem who take confident feeling drugs do feel very confident on the drug, but their confidence usually gets even lower when they're off the drug, because psychologically, they don't think they can be confident sober. Be careful.
After reading all the posts in the thread, I'd also like to add most opiates including vicodin.
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Edited by greystealth (01/05/08 01:07 PM)
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: greystealth]
#7835859 - 01/05/08 02:31 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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mdmda = loss of all anxiety, excellent for confidence
acid, alcohol and opiates do the same as well for me
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#7835915 - 01/05/08 02:44 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Stimulants are the key to confidence for me. MDMA, amphetamines, and cocaine all seem to increase my confidence. As well alcohol and benzos.
Weed takes away tremendous part from my confidence.
Hallucinogens increase my confidence in some areas whilst there are big holes in other areas.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: Individual]
#7837204 - 01/05/08 08:43 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Hmmm. i might say that the anxiety and loss of self confidence are other things that you shouldn't necessarily deal with through more drugs.
I have similar issues/expierience, and moderating the pot smoking really helps. Take your time, not to often.
Also, maybe smoking is just not for you.
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The most confident I've ever felt in my life was off about 2 grams of shrooms. At first I was very uncomfortable and had no confidence but then something clicked about half way through
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#7837556 - 01/05/08 10:24 PM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Alcohol and Marijuana are very social substances to me.
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AbyssWP
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: Robo]
#7838101 - 01/06/08 02:23 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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I have been wanting to try shrooms for a while, but I wont do them without a reason.. I think I may have found my reason xD If confidence is one of those things gained through enlightenment from a spiritual trip , then Im all for it. But its not like it will just magicly come to me, I will really have to concentrate and see myself through. Anyone have anythin to add to this? And I was wondering how vicodin affects you in bed, i know it makes you more relaxed/tired.. so maybe + some caffeine.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: AbyssWP]
#19496597 - 01/30/14 02:04 PM (10 years, 12 hours ago) |
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I just took my first trip last night. After creating my own city and wondering the streets I entered a room. Maybe it was my self conscious and I started to ask myself deep questions about life. I came across the topic of why I was always nervous around people..THEN I planted this idea in my head and I literally yelled "fuck it". After that my confidence raised to the fucking sky!!!! but I wasn't cocky or arrogant. I just felt like I was ahead of everyone by ten steps and everything I said and did made people act like wow this kid personality is off the charts(in a amazing way).
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Get some datura, expereance hell, and get through anything.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: Icyus]
#19497796 - 01/30/14 05:52 PM (10 years, 8 hours ago) |
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Socially I am a wreck when I smoke too much weed. And too much for me, is not very much at all. If I take more than half a normal hit, I'm too stoned for comfort. It's almost like its not awkwardness or anxiety, but a total inability to feel like I am making any god damn sense.
I'm already a social retard, so I only smoke when I have nothing to do, or its late at night and I'm up. I do like it, but I have to realize that if I do it, I wont be accomplishing anything, or talking to anyone for the duration. I do find that it is incredibly enjoyable for me to read while stoned, its all understood and fairly well retained. Whereas I can't remember your name 5 minutes after we meet(stoned or not).
Mushrooms give me such a powerful feeling, like I'm negativity proof. Negativity and bad thoughts and vibes fucking bounce off of me. I want to be with everyone, and talk to everyone. I am not like that sober. More than a handful of the best nights of my life were on mushrooms, life of the fucking partay.
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Re: Drugs and confidence [Re: Individual]
#19497920 - 01/30/14 06:22 PM (10 years, 7 hours ago) |
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Individual said: Stimulants are the key to confidence for me. MDMA, amphetamines, and cocaine all seem to increase my confidence. As well alcohol and benzos.
Weed takes away tremendous part from my confidence.
Hallucinogens increase my confidence in some areas whilst there are big holes in other areas.
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speed speed speed.
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Creativityy said: I just took my first trip last night. After creating my own city and wondering the streets I entered a room. Maybe it was my self conscious and I started to ask myself deep questions about life. I came across the topic of why I was always nervous around people..THEN I planted this idea in my head and I literally yelled "fuck it". After that my confidence raised to the fucking sky!!!! but I wasn't cocky or arrogant. I just felt like I was ahead of everyone by ten steps and everything I said and did made people act like wow this kid personality is off the charts(in a amazing way).
thats awesome man did it last after the trip?
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