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Invisibletis matt
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learn to use salvia
    #7830273 - 01/03/08 11:26 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Just wanted to post this for people "having trouble/wanting help" smoking salvia, I have seen many posts about it. I bought 10g. 6x salvia extract and just went for a test run tonight. My experience was amazing and words simply wouldn't do justice the things I saw and felt, and this motivated me to try and help others see the beauty for themselves. I have found that the come-up from 6x is much more subtle than 10x and above, and much more comfortable.

The first thing you should do is close your eyes or just rest them and relax your whole body, try and clear your mind of everything. (I was laying down in my car at night; no sound, no light, no distractions). like dirt settles in water, it takes time to clear your head. Once you are ready to go you will know. Have the bowl ready to go, a little mj in the bottom and a nice portion of salvia on top. Don't hesitate, dome up that sweet fat bowl of sally, set your bowl somewhere, relaaaax and patiently await the salvia universe to implode within your head. i find holding the smoke in for 10-15 seconds is fine.

Just relax. there is no reason to be nervous or afraid, just flow with it ya know? The 1st hit usually doesn't send me off to never land but I feel it somehow opens my third eye and my mind feels much more open to smoking more. when you come back and realize its there again, relax your body and once again clear your head and wait until you are ready for the next rip. Continue these steps and I believe a pleasurable experience is more likely.

After the 4th or 5th time I was completely comfortable and really cant describe the feelings that went through me. nothing mattered, there was no me, there was just the experience. I was left with euphoria and in a great state of well-being, and I knew that I could handle another hit but that I shouldn't do it, this was enough for today and there's plenty more time. And then after my greatest psychedelic experience yet, as if that wasn't enough, once I was feeling back to "normal" enough to drive home, I start the car and within a minute "kokomo" by the beach boys came on and I felt like my soul and my body were laughing. it was a fun drive home.

So this was a fun night hah hopefully I can get my hands on some cubes before winter break is over. and im definitely gonna be using my sage from ias.com more. I hope all these words will somehow help you achieve a similar wonderful experience.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: tis matt]
    #7830375 - 01/04/08 12:09 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Well, if I may... welcome to the forum, and that's a very nice first post. That makes a lot of sense too. I recently got some 10x, and have no problem getting effects from it. In fact, nearly every single time I find the experience fairly unpleasant. Certainly doesn't stop me from doing it again though... i'm hoping i'll get used to it eventually. It's just the physical sensation is pretty uncomfortable, and that tends to make it kinda hard to enjoy.

I think being in a sort of meditative state would help, going to try that tonight. I'm wondering though, when you say the come up is much easier from 6x, does that mean you would find 10x or more too intense, or uncomfortable?


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: ImperialCactus]
    #7830435 - 01/04/08 12:32 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Thanks. Been lurkin for a while, never had anything to post til now. I've tried 10x and 20x before, and was curious in trying a smaller extract or leaf for a while because my experiences were intense and happened very quick, leaving me with a feeling that i couldn't extract meaning from the experience or hardly even recall any of it. 6x feels like the whole thing is slower and smoother and easier to roll along with. i don't see a need for any extract stronger than 6x and i know some people get along fine with plain leaves.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: tis matt]
    #7830456 - 01/04/08 12:41 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Its not hard to do salvia right, but for some people I think it may be hard to enjoy it.

I remember my first time it worked.  I had just gotten high off it plenty of times before.  I take one hit of 10X, hold it in for a while. I didn't think it was gonna work.  I exhale, and just as I start to say "damn it didn't work again" my body was overcome with the most peculiar prickling sensation and all I could do was recline into my chair.  Then I was gone.  I didn't know I had taken salvia, I didn't know anything. Alex Grey patterns covered everything and my world dissolved around me. I came back 6 minutes later after declaring "fucking hell" about 50 times.

Then my friends all tried it lol.  THAT was good for some laughs.  Don't mix salvia with alcohol is all I can say. :lol:


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: tis matt]
    #7830462 - 01/04/08 12:43 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I do love big ol' fattie joints of leaf!

Plain leaves are to a play as extract is to T.V. Both are real in their own way, but a fat joint of leaf can really put you in a weird, warm spot, that you feel like a part of: like a good off-broadway play.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7830470 - 01/04/08 12:45 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I've got a bunch of dried leaves. I guess I'll give the joint a try later tonight.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: tis matt]
    #7830485 - 01/04/08 12:50 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Hmm... yeah I think I know what you mean. Leaves didn't do much for me, and i've only ever tried 10x besides that. I wonder as well if i'll be able to get anything out of this. I'm not really doing it because it's fun, since it isn't... just like being really, really high in an uncomfortable way for a few minutes. I'm hoping some sort of meditation will help with that.

I've tried smoking very small amounts of 10x as well, but it's really hard to find a good balance. Either it's a little too subtle, or really uncomfortable. Maybe it doesn't quite work that way since the leaves would still be more potent... not sure.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: ImperialCactus]
    #7830518 - 01/04/08 01:06 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I got the x5 extract once, i tried it in a joint first, and right away i new it had some sort of effect. I tried it in a bong a couple of times, and got a really weird feeling.

Alot of people described it as salvia gravity.

Eventaully one night i decided to push it and take a good 3 4 decent rips, i almost broke threw, a few weird things happened, i got confused, thought i was sitting in a chair, not on the couch, started sinking into the couch, i was then in 3 places at once, 2 different places in the living and outside leaning against a wall in an unknow place.

Then the tv started saying random things and something apeared in the TV aswell.

I think it was soo confusing as it apeared very real!

this lasted about 2 minutes.

A smoked the rest of what i had over the next few days in joints then decided that it wasnt for me at the time, the salvia gravity was what bothered me the most, it was just too weird.

I'll try it again, but i would go to 10x next time.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7831132 - 01/04/08 08:37 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Its uncomfortable.... but why use it to GET comfortable? why not just go through the experience...?


I did a very small amount on the couch.... 13x.... i could'nt remember very much afterward,

but when i remembered what my trip was like, BOY! did i want to do it again,

I fell through my carpet in my own world for what felt like 1.30 min, then i had a very short and uncomfortable out of body experience..... worth every penny


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: RedRabbit]
    #7831667 - 01/04/08 11:35 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

the "uncomfortable" part to me personally was the come-up with high extracts. i felt like my soul was being twisted and sucked into another reality (thats the best i can describe it) and sometimes this was unpleasant. with 6x the transitions seemed more gradual and i was still pleased with a bizarre and intense experience, and was able to think about what i had seen after each time and recall some of it. 10x and above made me feel like the whole experience was crammed into 2 seconds and to remember any of it is real hard.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: tis matt]
    #7831754 - 01/04/08 12:17 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

The only difference between different extracts for me is the fact that higher extracts are more likely to make you break through, and at lower doses. A breakthrough is a breakthrough.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: tis matt]
    #7833218 - 01/04/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Do you go for broke right away by smoking the highest amount you care to? Or do you do the reverse tolerance method like many recommend by smoking a fraction of what you normally do, wait 20 minutes and then hit the highest amount you are comfortable with?


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: mother_of_pearl]
    #7834353 - 01/05/08 01:42 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

i used a bubbler, and used about a half a bowl of salvia for each hit (~.05 g).id take a hit and hold it in, lay down, and just wait for whatever happens. once i can think again or if nothing changes id pack another bowl and close my eyes and try to stop thinking and clear my head again and then smoke it and its the same process. i've never fully understood the reverse tolerance.


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: tis matt]
    #7834606 - 01/05/08 06:36 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

salvia is amazing, isn't it? :yesnod:


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: maggotz]
    #7890293 - 01/16/08 08:51 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

i hope it isnt illegalized everywhere tho...

its still legal all over Europe correct?

and amsterdam?

and some states...


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7890517 - 01/16/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
Plain leaves are to a play as extract is to T.V.




This sounds wrong somehow. :tongue:

From what I know about Salvia, I could try it, and go with the "I'm sure  I can handle it", deal, but I don't think I would.

For some reason the only scenario I can think of would be if I were already on another psychedelic... That way a drastically changed consciousness would be less... jarring?

Something along the lines of "Lucy, meet Sally."


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Re: learn to use salvia [Re: RedRabbit]
    #7890523 - 01/16/08 09:44 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

It's legal where I live but more and more states are trying to get bills passed to make it illegal, I just went on a site to get some today and they now can't sell it because it became illegal in there state. It's a shame.


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