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Offlinebloodbrother778
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My first DMT experience
    #7830210 - 01/03/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Ok this has happened a while back, before I joined shroomery, but I thought I'd post it since you guys will probably find it interesting.

First I need to mention a few things about DMT:

As anyone who has actually tripped on DMT will tell you, it is impossible to truly describe a DMT trip, because in that utter perfection words simply do not exist so you couldn't possibly capture the essence of the trip with something as meaningless as words.
DMT is by far the most intense and profound experience possible, it's NOT something to fuck around with, you have to respect it for what it is and be prepared for its power, don't look at it as a drug or just a fun time, but as a life changing near death experience.
There is absolutely no controlling a DMT trip, the only way to go is to completely let go and let it take over, otherwise you are likely to have a very bad time.
Basically in order to trip on DMT you have to be prepared to die, because that is likely what you will think happened, and if you have trouble letting go of your life/"reality" then you will also have a very bad time.

So here was my setup for the trip: I've smoked DMT quite a few times before that but never actually broke through the threshold, I had one last dose, which was about 80 mg, and I was waiting for some MAO inhibitors that I ordered online to try taking it orally, however they still haven't arrived after 4 weeks so I decided to just smoke it. I wanted the best possible scenery so I went down to a local river that had woods behind it on a really nice day. There were people walking around and I tried to wait for them to leave but more kept coming, so I just decided to smoke it discreetly with a shirt over my head.

I lit the light bulb for a long long time and sucked down all the vapor at once, it immediately filled up with just as much vapor, I exhaled and took the second hit, immediately after that I felt it come on stronger than ever before. I took the shirt off of my head and as soon as I did that everything started turning reddish and getting really far away. My eyes were drawn to the sky, where I saw the river the woods behind it and the clouds in the sky merge together and transform. It looked sort of like a sand mosaid of the most iridescent and brilliant colors, including pink, blue, purple, orange, red, and many others. It was constantly transforming into something else, adding on more and more colors. At the same time that this was happening I got an incredible rush, like I was moving a million miles an hour. It felt like I was riding a roller coaster through hyperspace. This lasted for like 30 seconds. After that my body went almost completely numb, and up to that point I haven't had a single thought in my mind, I was too amazed by what I was seeing to be able to think.
Then the first thought came to my mind - that thought was "am I alive?" I looked down at my body and hit my legs with my hands, I couldn't feel it, my body didn't feel like my body it was just another chunk of matter same as the ground I was sitting on. I couldn't seem to answer my question, but I realized that that wasn't important and what was important was the experience I was having at that moment. At this point I totally forgot where I was, I tried to take a look around and I couldn't remember, then somehow I saw something that vaguely resembled where I was and I remembered because interestingly enough it was the first place I visited when I moved here.
After that I turned my head and looked back at the river/woods/sky transformation, now this part of the trip I can barely even begin to describe. Everything human ceased to exist, there were no words, no concepts, no questions, nothing that my mind had to judge or analyze, time slowed down to the point that I thought I was in there for an eternity. At this point I was pretty much nothing but my eyes floating around. I saw something, which I can only describe as god (I came to realize later that that was what god really is) It was a sort of energy or force, that was all one color, a very bright neon pink mixed with gold or orange. It permeated everything, and my body as well, I felt it inside of me, it felt like by entering my body this energy was transferring infinite information to me, all I could do was just absorb it. That is what I think god really is, a sort of force that permeates everything and makes existence possible, in other words if you were to take it out reality would not be able to exist, it isn't a sentient being, it doesn't think, it just is. I also think that our thought/consciousness is made of that stuff too and that's where we get our archetypes and stuff during the 7 week and birth DMT releases. I also think that eventually our consciousness will merge with it, adding our experiences to it, or the collective memory if you will.
You want to know something funny? - I was a total hardcore atheist before this experience and I thought I would never change - that's how amazing this stuff is.

When this energy entered my body it shaped it into the same shape that it was in, which felt not normal, yet pleasant and I did not resist it because I knew that there was nothing I could possibly do to affect it in any way.

At some point I suddenly crashed down, I think I closed my eyes at that point, I saw a three dimensional five sided orange pentagon with a cut out middle, it was rotating. I looked at it for a little while then opened my eyes. The real trip was over at this point, I was still tripping very hard though in the normal sense, like LSD times 10, everything was going in waves, somehow I started hearing voices from people that were like 50 yards away, I couldn't make them out though, they just sounded like distorted echoes. I actually don't really remember sound being a big part of the trip on DMT, I do remember hearing some sort of electronic repeating sounds, but I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to them because what I was seeing took up all of it.
I looked at the ground I was sitting on and put my hand on it, I felt it start to vibrate and cave in, but then it stopped and my trip mostly stopped at that point. I got up and walked away. None of the people walking around seemed to know that anything was happening to me, which is weird because I remember at some point in the trip I was rolling on the ground like crazy because I couldn't figure out if I was alive or not.

I got into my car and drove away still feeling the after effects, I tried to record myself talking about the trip on my cell phone, it definitely sounded like I was still messed up, I seemed to mention the word line a lot, referring to the river/woods/sky "line".

This trip completely changed me, I had so many weird thoughts for weeks afterwards, couldn't really concentrate on reality because I knew it wasn't the real reality, what I saw on that trip felt way more real than the reality I was in before. I mean I already said that I was an atheist before that and now I actually think I understand what god really is. I am immensely grateful for that experience, It was by far the most profound thing I've ever experienced, I know the things that are really important now and I see through all of government's/society's bullshit. It's like after that experience I reached a new stage in my life, I now look at my life as before DMT and after DMT.


Edited by bloodbrother778 (01/03/08 11:11 PM)


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7831460 - 01/04/08 10:26 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Awesome report man. I don't think I've ever read a DMT breakthrough report that wasn't intensely fascinating. I sure do hope I'll get the chance to travel with this life-changing vehicle some time. I already know that reality is MUCH stranger than most of us can percieve with our limited senses, so something like DMT will just let me venture further into sensory awareness of the possibilities that surround.

Thanks for sharing your experience!


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7831462 - 01/04/08 10:27 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Nice report man, thanks for posting.


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7833813 - 01/04/08 10:10 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Sweet. There's no way I could do that in a public park. I'd be way too paranoid once I entered the trip.

I haven't done it yet... but I am of the belief that it will find me - either naturally through astral projection (which i have experienced unintentionally several times) or directly, through smoke into my lungs.

Either way, I will walk the final path on my psychanoutic journey with DMT.

I firmly believe nothing will top it.

And, I definitely believe it will feel almost exactly like sleep paralysis, astral projection, a dream, and all experiences of that type do. I theorize this because of DMT excretion during sleep, and the stunning similarities (in my opinion) between the two experiences (sudden loss of control, hallucinations, feeling "aliens" or "shadow figures").

I guess I will have to wait to find out. :smile:


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: manyc]
    #7834228 - 01/05/08 12:25 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

you know I would think I'd be paranoid also, but once I entered the trip it consumed me entirely, I completely forgot that people even existed or that they were around me, it wasn't a very good idea to trip in public like that, but in retrospect I do not regret it because of the experience it gave me

However, be careful with those thoughts, yes DMT is released during sleep and meditation, but only in small amounts, the amount that gets you the out of this world experience is much greater and cannot be even remotely compared to the experience caused by a smaller amount of DMT.


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7838267 - 01/06/08 05:51 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Don't get me wrong though- I'm not saying that an induced DMT experience is comparable to a natural one. I don't think I'm mentally ready to be immersed in a massive amount of DMT yet - I'm sure I have no actual scope of how amazingly profound the smoked or oral DMT experience is. My life situation right now does not feel compatible with anything else but eating shrooms that I grow... it feels much more pure, & personal, than seeking it out and buying from a dealer. I like the spiritual side of things.

When the time comes, I believe some DMT crystals will find me.. one way or another.


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: manyc]
    #7838389 - 01/06/08 07:42 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

You can make the DMT yourself, it isn't hard, definitely easier than growing shrooms, that's what I did, because DMT is next to impossible to find on the street unless you go to a festival or know someone who makes it, but it's true what they say - you don't find DMT, it finds you when you're ready, it's good that you understand that you aren't ready yet.


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7842549 - 01/07/08 07:49 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Great report man... Im especially interested in how you think you changed from hardcore atheist to believing in some kind of god-like energy. What convinced you?


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: undergrounder]
    #7843329 - 01/07/08 12:10 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Basically it was a feeling, I remember talking to my brother about god a while back and asking him what his views are (he's like 14 years older than me), and what he told me was you cannot explain what god is, you can only feel it. Well in that experience I felt it, I can't really describe it adequately, but it felt so real, and so amazing that the only words that I can use to describe it would be perfect or godly or divine. Basically it was the equivalent of me dying and getting answers to everything I've ever wanted to know, even though it wasn't really that - all the questions I had before it was irrelevant, when this energy entered me I could just feel it, it was unmistakable, I mean if it could convince a hardcore atheist into whatever I am now it had to be something crazy right? It was like I saw reality for what it really is, because obviously we don't really perceive things for what they really are, like we don't see frequencies, or hear wavelengths, they are transformed into something else by our brain, well in that experience it was like that transformation didn't happen, and I perceived everything for what it really is. Also I wouldn't really say that this is a belief that I have, I've never been one to go by faith or belief, this is more like understanding, like as arrogant as this sounds I actually came to understand what god really is, and there's no doubt about it for me.
If I had to poorly describe how amazing that feeling was I'd say it was like ecstasy x 1000. This was especially true for my second DMT trip, where I saw an incredibly complex pattern that entered me and when it did I felt joy unlike I've ever felt before, it was literally pouring out of me, I felt like I was almost being suffocated by it because there was so much of it, it was amazing. The first time I didn't really feel such joy, it was more like I had infinite information passing through me at once for an eternity, and since it was my first time I had a some trouble accepting it/letting go, which is what I did the second time and It rewarded me with seemingly infinite ecstasy.
But yeah the answer to your question, what convinced me was the feeling that I had.


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7843477 - 01/07/08 01:09 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Not that I can relate to that feeling a DMT experience can give you, but on all the other psychadelics I've done, I also felt that feeling. I didn't believe in god for a while when I was 14-17 years old, but then I tripped.. and I was given a whole new perspective.

It's that feeling of universal empathy and connection. Everything is connected... by the all-permeating, pure awareness energy that we call god. It's undeniable -this feeling- but everyone interprets that energy differently, and places a label and a personality on it... carving it in stone and saying we're right!, and you're wrong! so you're doomed! about this universal feeling that we can't even honestly explain with any sound logic.

That's my take on it anyways.

It made me realize that Taoism and Zen Buddhism ares the only "religions" I can relate to. So I consider myself a Taoist now. There's a universal force behind this physical dimension (the Tao), but we cannot control it or fully understand it, we can only catch a glimpse of its timeless and beautiful nature. I was raised Catholic, mind you... *shudder*


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Edited by manyc (01/07/08 01:11 PM)


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: manyc]
    #7844357 - 01/07/08 04:19 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

yeah I agree, the symbol of god in todays world is so fucked up, its nothing but a fairy tale used to scare the kids, I mean its bullshit to think that there's some kind of person that will reward you or punish you based on your deeds....
I like the way they put it in the movie What the Bleep Do We Know, its a movie about quantum mechanics, pretty cool check it out, but anyway what they said was something like "I can't believe that in today's world with all our knowledge we still have such an ugly concept of god, the real god is something so great that a human couldn't possibly hope to betray it (sin) in any way.
Besides that, after that DMT trip I also realized that good and bad are also just human concepts and do not exist in reality, good and bad changes depending on the perspective you take, there's no real good or bad in reality.
However, the feeling that you are describing on the other psychedelics is not the same as the DMT, on DMT it is hugely amplified, like I'm not exaggerating that it felt like ecstasy times 1000. That feeling can be almost overwhelming on DMT. I've experienced other psychedelics and I know what you're talking about, but that isn't the feeling I was talking about.

I don't think I can consider myself of any religion now, the closest one would probably be a Deist, but still not that. Although I do want to study up some of the asian religions like buddhism taoism and hinduism, but at this point I feel like I should be walking my own path instead.


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7846681 - 01/08/08 01:28 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

That's wicked.

I have the unfortunate career path of studying psychology at the moment so its hard for me to interpret things like that in terms of pure subjective experience. I would be talking about over-reaction of pleasure centres and a heightened limbic system etc. etc. I mean a schizophrenic can have intense delusions of grandeur or the utter belief that they are God or that they know God. And if that's not actually true, then the feeling they're experiencing must be coming from some 'abnormal' reaction of the brain.

I'm afraid i might even be more hardcore atheist than you but ... i do have a spice deposit of my own so we'll see how that holds up  :uptosomething:


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: undergrounder]
    #7848003 - 01/08/08 01:40 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

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I'm afraid i might even be more hardcore atheist than you




I doubt that lol, I used to study biochemistry wanting to become a scientist, I always had the need to rationalize everything and look for logic. I've always rejected the concept of a personal god, even when I was an atheist I said that if I was ever to believe in a god it would be like a force or energy, basically what I think of it now lol.
Trust me I know where you're coming from because I used to be there, I used to dismiss such subjective experiences as trivial illusions. However what I experienced was undeniable, and it felt way too real for it not to be.
I'm not saying that you'll see god on DMT, but it will be a very profound experience if you're ready for it.


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7869338 - 01/12/08 02:54 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

That's amazing I'm trying DMT in a few days, isn't 80 mg a huge dose though? How would I be able to smoke it without a vaping pipe?


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7870828 - 01/12/08 08:41 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

yeah 80 mg is a bit much lol, you could smoke it from a regular pipe on top of bud or something but that's unreliable and you risk wasting the DMT because if you burn it then it gets destroyed and you won't trip, you can easily make a vape out of a light bulb, that's what I always use


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: bloodbrother778]
    #7871905 - 01/13/08 12:49 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

ok i'll pull some tweaker shit and make a lightbulb vape


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Re: My first DMT experience [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7909184 - 01/21/08 11:12 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

wow, very nice report...


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