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KingOftheThing
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REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst!
#7829555 - 01/03/08 08:59 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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rudy is fucking batty, srsly. this guy is playing to the hayseeds who really actually think all arabs want us dead and we shouldd "nuke em all". fucking hayseeds
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: KingOftheThing]
#7829618 - 01/03/08 09:15 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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OMG what garbage! That is just sick.
Did zappa create that commercial for the crossdresser while sharing lipstick?
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: RosettaStoned]
#7829630 - 01/03/08 09:18 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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RosettaStoned said: Did zappa create that commercial for the crossdresser while sharing lipstick?
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: KingOftheThing]
#7829770 - 01/03/08 09:44 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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KingOftheThing said:
rudy is fucking batty, srsly. this guy is playing to the hayseeds who really actually think all arabs want us dead and we shouldd "nuke em all". fucking hayseeds
LOL. that WAS garbage. usually KOTT i think you're just a lefty rhetoric machine, but that was pure utter crap.
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: KingOftheThing]
#7829824 - 01/03/08 09:57 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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hahaha....is he actually running that ad somewhere?!
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gettinjiggywithit
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: afoaf]
#7830212 - 01/03/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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afoaf said: hahaha....is he actually running that ad somewhere?!
Yes he has been running that twisted ad. His campaign manager realized how off it was and they reshot it.
Here is the new and improved version
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johnm214



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ehh.. standard issue shit
people talk about terrorism and give it way more credit than it's due...
I've never been directly targeted by terrorists; I have been harrased and searched by the police.
Guess which one I'm more afraid of?
(and the flu kills more americans by far than even terrorism did in 2001... let's worry about shit that matters people)
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: RosettaStoned]
#7830703 - 01/04/08 04:20 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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RosettaStoned said: Did zappa create that commercial for the crossdresser while sharing lipstick?
Please do not troll or bait others... the mods don't need the extra work.
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zappaisgod
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: Seuss]
#7832057 - 01/04/08 01:58 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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So, just which one of those things that was mentioned do you dopes think doesn't exist?
I feel personally targeted because I live within spitting distance of NYC. You hayseeds don't worry because the shitholes you live in don't rule the world. Why don't y'all just say, "Fuck NYC, we can do without that Hymietown," because that is probably how most of you feel even though the rest of the country would be much worse off without the single greatest wealth generator in the history of the world. What shithole do you suppose will take up the slack if it gets blown to bits by a "liberated" weapon from nutlog land and how long do you think it will take?
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: zappaisgod]
#7832062 - 01/04/08 01:59 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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My bad for making that reply to Seuss. You hayseeds can figure out for yourselves who I'm talking to.
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: zappaisgod]
#7832195 - 01/04/08 02:42 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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It's no secret to regular members here that you are more sensitive about terrorism because of your proximity to the 9/11 attacks and a prime strategic target "Financial markets"
Zappa, if you think we are all not horrified and mortified on that day no matter where we lived and do now, you are wrong.
My husband travels internationally regularly with his job and I am always worried about him when he is over seas because of terorist psychos targeting air ports and americans.
If you think we have zero appreciation of the hub of our financial market center, you are wrong.
Children lost their parents that day and it tears my heart up.
No more then watching Iraqi children being blown to bits and orphaned by what we are doing in Iraq now.
Some of us perhaps think differently and we see the way to best get haters of America off our back is to get out of their back yards for good.
We do want solutions to protect this country from crazies. Some of us just think the solution is different then the one you prescribe too. We care or we wouldn't be involved with Politics.
On a side note, I personally tend to keep focus on the big Picture.
We lost around 7,000 Americans that year due to terrorist.
How many do we loose a year to drunk driving, cancer, heart disease, depression related suicide, gang and inner city violence, domestic violence?
Why isn't the U.S. spending billions of dollars a month we don't have to protect us from these dangers?
Some of us, me for sure, are pissed knowing we could've been on alternative energy sources and out of the middle east decades ago, yet are in this costly scary mess over freaking oil, which only a few profit from.
Oil was $50 a barrel before we invaded Iraq and now it's pushin $100.
WTF is going on.
When are you going to admit that you have to live feeling threatened living close to a terrorist target because of the greed of some to profit huge off of oil?
The problem with Rudy's commercial is that he has blown the threat of terrorists out of proportion compared to other basic threats to survival of daily living in the U.S.
He's not a properly balanced candidate being realistic about other problems America faces and a lot of us think he is wrong about how to solve the terrorist threat problem, not that it is a problem.
This particular hayseed lives in a new 4,000 sq foot Luxury home with an in-ground pool in a gated community with a healthy and beautiful family.
I have a lot to loose to economic collapse and or nuclear war or WWIII breaking out.
I think Paul has the most realistic pulse reading on how to treat many threats we face and I'm 100% behind what he is saying!!!
If he is not electable because he is to complex for the average American idiot to understand, or too old, or doesn't look Presidential, or sounds too far off from the media propaganda to be on it, that's America's fault for being shallow and America as a whole will deserve whatever it asks for!!
I'll give it the best fight I have in me though to reason with whoever I can about the problems we face and the best solutions to deal with them.
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zappaisgod
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I greatly appreciate your thoughtful and understanding post. You and I most certainly do disagree a lot on how to deal with the threat. What we do not, apparently, disagree on is that there is one, which is something that cannot be said of KOTT and some others. I'm not going to go point by point on where we disagree because we have been over that ground several times, with varying degrees of civility.
Today I'm going to focus on what we agree on, which is that there IS a menace and it is most definitely not "fear mongering"(a retarded phrase if there ever was one, without fear we would all die premature accidental deaths) to point it out. Especially if part of your curriculum vitae is that you are perceived to be strong and effective at dealing with threats from thugs. Rudy is absolutely that and I agree with his proven effective method for dealing with scum. NYC was a disaster zone under Dinkins and Koch and it was widely perceived as being unfixable. Rudy proved everybody wrong and NYC is a much better place to live largely due to his leadership and vision. I will never forget that. He also managed to implement a get tough policy in a city widely celebrated for its licentiousness (NTTAWWT) in a way that was mostly restricted to actually fucking only bad guys. As opposed to the current nanny state asshole in the Mayor's office now. And the douche in the Governor's office as well (I have never seen anybody crater as fast as Spitzer).
Anyway, I'll leave it at that.
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: zappaisgod]
#7832534 - 01/04/08 04:17 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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This reminds me of that commercial from SCROGGED
Although I don't know WTF that second part was about.
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: BrAiN]
#7832545 - 01/04/08 04:20 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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http://www.theonion.com/content/news/giuliani_to_run_for_president_of_9
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NEW YORKâAt a well-attended rally in front of his new Ground Zero headquarters Monday, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani officially announced his plan to run for president of 9/11
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"People talk about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, but did either of them happen to be mayor of New York in September 2001?" Bedford, NH resident Helen Rolfe said. "Guiliani was. To me, that speaks volumes about this man."
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gettinjiggywithit
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: zappaisgod]
#7832668 - 01/04/08 04:51 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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No doubt, terrorist thugs who prey on innocents and people willing to strap bombs to themselves can not be reasoned with.
Even Regan said, those people in the mid east are irrational and you can't reason with them.
Paul understand this also. The difference between he and Rudy is that where Paul wants to hire hot shots that systematically go after the thugs specifically, and he still questioning why we stopped going after Bin Laden when he fled Afghanistan for Pakistan, ( our attack on Al Queda and the Taliban in Afghanistan which he supported)
Paul didn't support invading Iraq because he said there wasn't enough evidence for him to support that they had WMDs that were going to be sold and used against us, Congress refused to declare a war on them, which when we don't he says those wars never end, and he also challenged the cost of the war, which was listed at $4,000,000,000 total which Bush said we would be paid back with by Iraqi Oil.
Paul was right and I'm impressed with his ability for foresight. He would've saved us a fortune and many lives, as well as not created an open vacuum for more to join Al Queda over there.
Paul was okay with us buying Middle eastern Oil. He doesn't think it is right for us to use our Military to go in and rebuild their nations with puppet governments to secure them for Western oil companies to control.
It was cheaper when we just took the original route of trade.
Paul wants to go after specific individual thugs, revamping our intelligence system making it more efficient for the money spent on it. Otherwise, he wants stability between us and other nations. WWIII is scary shit.
Why can't we spend less money and lives targeting individuals that pose a threat, instead of going after whole countries recklessly while pissing them off further?
Thugs? A brick through the skull is what gets through.
What Bush has been doing is like hire a bunch of kids to launch a truck load of bricks at a school yard filled with 500 children, where only two of them are thugs. It costs more in bricks and brick throwers and starts to piss off the 488 non thug kids in the park who then start throwing bricks back and become thugs themselves out of self preservation.
In short, Paul sees specific sick individuals out there as a threat. He at the same times wants to calm down what is aggravating them, while systematically, with better intelligence gathering, taking out that ones plotting and planning to harm us.
He also really wants to stop with the costly subsidies keeping the use of gas and oil so protected and open up the markets wider for alternative energy sources to compete with oil and leave us less dependent on the middle east in general.
Well, I think you can feel pretty secure in knowing that if nothing much changes, we will continue taking over the middle east, which in turn will create a possible WWIII and or economic collapse here as we can't afford it, our Military will run dry and we'll have to revenue the draft, border protection will get worse as more get sent over there, and finally, the NAU will be implemented to salvage the economy and as a resource for more soldiers.
How's that for fear mongering from a Paulite? 
It's looking like that's where things are headed. Hillary, Obama or Edwards will also take us there too.
I hold on to hope and take action where and when I can because it's like Paul said about where we are heading,
"Let it never be said no one tried to do anything."
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: KingOftheThing]
#7832700 - 01/04/08 04:57 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Haha that advertisement is absolutely hilarious. Why don't we have shit like that in my country? I'm disappointed
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zappaisgod
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: Arp]
#7832722 - 01/04/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Because your country sucks.
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: zappaisgod]
#7832738 - 01/04/08 05:09 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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True
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kidaihuan
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Re: REpublican FEAR MONGERING at its worst! [Re: zappaisgod]
#7832940 - 01/04/08 06:14 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Because your country sucks.
QFT.
China FTW.
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