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Doomhammer
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EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested
#7829108 - 01/03/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Well my friends cat is almost ready to harvest its 1st flush in years. Yay! Especially gratifying after his first attempt failed so badly. EQs on brf cakes in a slightly modified poor man's pod. He knows they will treat him well.
Trouble is, to this cat they just don't look as healthy and strong as they could be. The stems look a little weak on some of them, and they seem to be a little on the small side. The sheer number of pins though, is incredible. I've read that EQ's are prolific pinners but this is just ridiculous.
Would you be so kind to take a look at these pics and offer my friends cat (mittens) any advice for next time (or flush) around?




Fresh air - At least 3 FAE per day, plus the air pump is running 24/7. The output seems good, but it was not spec'd on the package.
Light - A mixture of about 10 hours 6500K compact fluorescent light and natural sunlight per day. At night there is some incandescent and then near total darkness, but not complete (streetlights).
Competition for nutrients? Just using standard PF tek.
Moisture/water - Humidity is definitely very high (95-99%), and I also mist 1-3 times daily depending on how it looks, but usually pretty lightly. Maybe more watering? Also you can see the dunk and roll did happen. 24 hr dunk.
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: Doomhammer]
#7829122 - 01/03/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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they look better than okay. Good job!! I am so proud of you guys when you grow some mushrooms on cakes. it is so easy but yet so many fail.
They lok fine. Let me guess, you are comparing them to mushrooms that have grown on casings??? They tend to look a little different when grown on cakes
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: Doomhammer]
#7829123 - 01/03/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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nice grow! Congrats
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: tahoe]
#7829135 - 01/03/08 07:28 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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oh yeah, the second flush will produce bigger ones.
Next time, try to get the cakes a little wetter. They like to have actual water on them at all times. Even during pinning and fruiting
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: Doomhammer]
#7829150 - 01/03/08 07:31 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Thats quite acceptable for cakes, thats better flushes than i have been getting.
Decent sized fruits.
Notice how the cake with the biggest shroom has the least, and the cakes with more shrooms are slightly smaller.
From what i am seeing you are doing great, if you suspect that the cakes may be drying out, then u can sit them in a saucer of water overnight.
Those are from multispore so what you are seeing is genetic variation, to get round that clone a few of those mushrooms. Read into cloning
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: tahoe]
#7829160 - 01/03/08 07:33 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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tahoe said: oh yeah, the second flush will produce bigger ones.
Next time, try to get the cakes a little wetter. They like to have actual water on them at all times. Even during pinning and fruiting
I am startin to agree with you on wet cakes,
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: veda_sticks]
#7829173 - 01/03/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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I was reading a few teks on cloning, seems easy enough, just like a LC except use a piece of tissue instead of spores (for the non-agar tek creamcorn-esque). I haven't read much about which ones to select though, any advice there?
On the one hand I want to clone the earliest and healthiest looking fruit but at the same time only a few formed on one cake at that time.
On the other hand right after the first few, literally dozens and dozens of pinheads appeared all at once. I'm thinking clone a healthy looking one from there to preserve the genetic predisposition to many pins...
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: Doomhammer]
#7829219 - 01/03/08 07:41 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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There are many things to consider when taking a clone.
The largest is not one i would consider right away, as smaller mushrooms generaly can be more potent per gram than that of a larger shroom (i may have got this slightly worded wrong)
I would take several clones, then try each one out and see how well they work.
Just remember that when u make your LC's that to try each one on just 1 cake, just incase it performs poorly or your lc is contaminated, its had to tell a contaminated LC from a healthy one.
Good luck, i aim to delve into this very soon myself.
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: veda_sticks]
#7829267 - 01/03/08 07:49 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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veda_sticks said:
I am startin to agree with you on wet cakes,
I dont kid! i was the cake master back in the day. If i still grew cubes then I would show you folk how it is done but..........
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: tahoe]
#7829279 - 01/03/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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I have noticed the difference, i have been spraying my cakes like crazy, i have nothing to loose as there on there 4th flush and i have new cakes ready to birth.
Ayway sorry getting a little of topic.
Be proud of those cakes. U have done fantastic.
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: veda_sticks]
#7829351 - 01/03/08 08:08 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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thanks guys, I'll be sure to pass the good word to mittens and I'll let the fruits know you think they are pretty.
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: Doomhammer]
#7832574 - 01/04/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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More proof that keeping cakes nice and humid is important

Image by Fahtster. Check out his post on late casing for info on these cakes.
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: Nibin]
#7832603 - 01/04/08 04:35 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Nibin, that pic's very inspiring and impressive at the same time! I have the same reaction each time i see it. Only if I could bring my RH (94%) up a few notches.. More holes nor another inch of perlite worked so far..
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Re: EQ Flush BRF Pics! Advice requested [Re: c0_hush]
#7832617 - 01/04/08 04:38 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Is your fruiting chamber near a heat source.?? if temperature difference between the inside and outside will allow moisture to condensate out of the air, robbing you of humidity. Try and keep the inside and outside to with a few degrees of each other.
Just a guess
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