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temp change during colonization
#7829107 - 01/03/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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i was wondering if it mattered if my temp fluxuated during colonization. between 68 and 80
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: ozzyballs]
#7829171 - 01/03/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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No, its just going to effect colinisation times, when it drops that cold it will slow down quite a bit. But its not really a problem.
My temps have started to drop toa round 70F at night.
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: veda_sticks]
#7829256 - 01/03/08 07:46 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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I used to have major fluctuations in my temps before i recently built my TiT incubator, i highly reccoment it it has speeded my colonization up almost double.
try it. keeping at 84F is awesome!
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: katfish]
#7829307 - 01/03/08 07:59 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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84 is verging on being just a little too hot, i always recomend no higher than 81F.
If u can garentee that it stays at that temp then it will be ok. but i would definatly not go any higher as you start favouring contamination.
Room temperature is a good temp for people starting, while it may not give the fastest growth, it gives a good room for error.
Too many grows have been messed up from temps getting to high.
Simple is always best for the new start. Try moving them to a warm place, like above the fridge, or if your water tank in a cupboard thats usually a good place, my cupboard that housees the water tank reachs about 81F when the heat is on, and during the day in summer drops to about 75. in winter i move the jars just a little closer to keep them just below 80F. Works great for me.
As long as your moisture content is right and good gas exchange, combined with inoc at 4 points, colinise generaly completes in just over 14 days at between 75f and 80F.
Just as a little note, my current grow i decided to just inoc at 2 points to save on spores, plus reduce the genetic varation, i seen more rhyzomorohic growthm but colinisation was definatly longer, about 3 weeks.
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: katfish]
#7829308 - 01/03/08 07:59 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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what is a TiT incubator
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: ozzyballs]
#7829331 - 01/03/08 08:04 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Tub in tub. A rubbermaid container filled with water and a water heater on the bottom to heat the water to correct temp and then another runbbermaid that fits snug on the water so it can gain the same temp as the water without being underwater. Good for colonization. But i think RR said that he likes to let the jars colonize at room temp.
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: ozzyballs]
#7829339 - 01/03/08 08:05 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Wild swings in temperature cause air exchanges between the jars and the outside. If the changes are rapid, they can easily be too much for the filtering material, especially if only dry verm is used. I don't recommend incubators, but find a nice room that holds at least to within five degrees or so. 75F to 81F is ideal. Above that, the returns are not worth the increased rate of contamination that will be experienced. RR
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7829363 - 01/03/08 08:13 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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thanks for your help
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7829374 - 01/03/08 08:15 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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I love it when RR steps in and gives that vital peice of information that has been missing.
That was roughly what i thought a bout going above 80F just was not sure how to word it.
I agree with not recomending incubators, like RR has said in the past if your comfortable in trousers and t-shirt, the myc is comfortable too.
I would suggest getting a digi temp gauge that can read min and max temps with fresh batterys and find a place in those temp ranges that doesnt fluxuate too much.
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: ozzyballs]
#7829378 - 01/03/08 08:16 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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i also had another question. i know this is probly asked alot. and im not expecting to get a whole bunch, but how much can i expect to yield useing BRF and verm pf tek with twelve jars. B+ strain
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: ozzyballs]
#7829399 - 01/03/08 08:20 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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7 dried grams a cake?
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veda_sticks
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Re: temp change during colonization [Re: ozzyballs]
#7829419 - 01/03/08 08:23 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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The results can vary alot.
If you get your conditions right. Then u can expect good results.
As a rought guide,
Dont expect too much on your first grow.
But
On my last grow first flush, i think i got around 45 grams wet from 3 cakes, which isnt to spectacular, u could get that of 1 cake.
Done right, u should get atleast anough to have a good time along with some friends.
Take a look at this thread to see what you can expect from a grow going well
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7829108/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD
Strain wont have too much of a difference, each strain does has its own characteristics. Take a look at the strain thread
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