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katfish
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Storing mushrooms problem
#7828464 - 01/03/08 05:35 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Ok first off I have used the search bar and found many threads on storing mushrooms, also the site FAQs have much info. But i am still unclear on some of it.
I have not had any big flushes yet because I have not successfully spawned to bulk or used monotubs which seems to be the best to me. I have f'ed up one large monotub and my last 2 casings because of trich. I have now taken all the perlite out of my FC and got a new pound of it off one of our sponsers. Also currently I have been trying to do a grain transfer to jars full of straw and one of coir. Also I have a pound of hpoo that I mixed with 1 pint of r44. I have my fingers crossed that I get no contams!
Anyway back to the storage situation,
First off I take my mushies and dry them in either a brown paper bag or paper towels, once I get a dried gram that is cracker dry I put it in a mini petri dish about a inch and a quarter in diameter and then place in the freezer, which I have read will preserve potency better. I for some reason pulled em out the mini fridge i had and weighed one of the grams and it was only .08 grams. To my suprise 3 of the 5 grams I have saved(all different strains btw) were a few .01 under. Does the cold evniorment have anyhting to do with this? or do you think the shrooms had more water in them when i though they were totally dry?
I am now waiting until I store at least a half ounce or so of dried shrooms before I even eat any because I want to do it with a few people next time. But that might not be for a month so I need long term options.
I was thinking vaccutaier but don't have any expierience with this. What is the best option in ya'll opinions for me?
thanks a mil katfish
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thedoc8
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: katfish]
#7828506 - 01/03/08 05:48 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Just tell you what I found.
Had 2 oz of dry mushies, not cracker dry just laying on my floor on a blanket. They have been laying there since October 5. Tried some on new years with some friends and they were still kick ass. I could not detect any loss of potency.
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: katfish]
#7828536 - 01/03/08 05:57 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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My guess is just the outsides of your mushrooms were cracker dry, while some moisture was still inside. Try a day long "cure" much like you'd do with drying bud. Put your "dry" mushrooms in a sealed jar for a day so the moisture can re-distribute, then check them and if they need further drying, do so.
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: thedoc8]
#7828556 - 01/03/08 06:02 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Just dry them, they'll last for years.
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: xFrockx]
#7828628 - 01/03/08 06:19 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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You can pick up some desiccant at a hardware store and elevate your shrooms above the desiccant on a screen and that will wick all of the moisture away.
If you are going to vacuum pack any or store in ziploc bags, Uline sells the small silica gel and clay pouches that you can lock in with your shrooms to wick away extra moisture.
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katfish
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: thedoc8]
#7828703 - 01/03/08 06:33 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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thedoc8 said: Just tell you what I found.
Had 2 oz of dry mushies, not cracker dry just laying on my floor on a blanket. They have been laying there since October 5. Tried some on new years with some friends and they were still kick ass. I could not detect any loss of potency.
This is very reassuring. I had one of my friends aggrivate me enough to let him try two grams, one of amazon and one of pesa. He said ti was great! I haven't mixed any cubes before but I assume that you get a different trip from different combinations. I know a lot of veterans on here sayu a cube is a cube but I beg to differ, I have had different trips on differnt cubes I have grown so far, Amazons kick ass in potency compared to PESA imho
katfish
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katfish
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: katfish]
#7828722 - 01/03/08 06:36 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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sweet, thanks guys for clearing up my paranoia of potency loss. Once I get some bulk acctually colonized all the way and fruiting good I will be able to pick 30 grams wet and just eat it, instead of wating and saving up multiple flushes. I have read from many members that dosing with wet is better and differnt than dry. I can't really see why, since its just extra water, but I can't wait to try!
Thanks guys!
katfish
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: katfish]
#7829034 - 01/03/08 07:14 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Its possible that there were still just a little moisture left them.
Personaly i never dry them, i love them fresh, i can eat them down easier and they just seem way more visual to me. But i dont produce that much and any excess gets given to a few friends.
I have heard that its best to get them dry as quick as you can, as what does cause potency loss is due to oxidization of the actives, the quicker you can get the moisture out then into storage the better.
I have never tried it out for myself, but i have heard a few people say that, and those guys used dehydrators set at pretty warm temps (upto like 120 and upwards i think, do not quote me on that however)
Fan drying them for a day gets them pretty dry, then descicent will usually do the rest, u can split big shrooms in half to help speed up the process.
Once cracker dry store in an airtight container with a little silica gel or damprid, also an oxygen eater may help for really long term storage.
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katfish
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: veda_sticks]
#7829085 - 01/03/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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veda_sticks said: Once cracker dry store in an airtight container with a little silica gel or damprid, also an oxygen eater may help for really long term storage.
Yeah that is why I was thinking vaccutainers cause not air at all in them. They sell tehm at the RA shop which is a head shop in my area but they are kinda expensive for the size, I am getting some vaccuatir test tubes that are used for blood storage which I think will be great.
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: katfish]
#7829580 - 01/03/08 09:05 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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As far as i know the one majour loss of potency is due to oxidisation.
I remember seeing vacum storage bags advertised on tv a while back that you can store thinks like cloeathes and bedding in, u use a hoover to suck the air out, not sure what the smallest size you can get, but i get the could store a good bulk flush pretty well.
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katfish
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: veda_sticks]
#7829634 - 01/03/08 09:19 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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i got a vaccum sealer for sealing large amount of MJ, double vac sealed, not even the best dog in the world can smell it, no air in the bag at all. i guess i will start sealing in that and freezing.
thanks
kF
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Re: Storing mushrooms problem [Re: katfish]
#7829650 - 01/03/08 09:23 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Im not to sure about freezing, if you are absolutly sure there is no water in your shrooms then it should be ok. Any moisture will cause a nasty slime once defrosted
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