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Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub?
    #7827609 - 01/03/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub?

Exactly what it says fellas. Is it too much or should I do 2 Monotubs?

I would like maximum results.

Also I have coir/coffee.

If I want higher yeilds should I use Hpoo?

Or will I still get high yields with coir/coffee only?

Any help is appreciated.


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7827675 - 01/03/08 02:22 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Wow not one reply!


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7827706 - 01/03/08 02:30 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

It's considered bad form to bump your own thread so soon.

You quantified the amount of spawn, but not the size of the monotub.

Mix your 1 gallon of spawn with 3 to 4 gallons of manure or compost.
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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7827718 - 01/03/08 02:32 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

How much spawn you use depends upon the size of the tubs, the depth of sub you want and the spawn ratio you choose.

Try The Spawn Ratio Calculator


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7827721 - 01/03/08 02:33 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

haha, I was wearing my tin hat as well!!!!


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7827812 - 01/03/08 02:51 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Sorry about the bump!

That wasn't my intentions. I was just seeing a lot of views and no responses.

My bad. I'll wait longer next time.

Thanks for the advice.


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7827905 - 01/03/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

My tub is 19 inches long X 14.5 inches wide. It's a sterilite tub.

The spawn ratio calculator states 5.71938 Quarts spawn to 22.87752 Quarts of substrate.

I'm figuring that's about 1.1 gallons of spawn to 5.5 gallons of substrate.


I like RR's recommendation better than the ratio calculator. I'm sure I would get a higher yield because of a lower spawn to substrate ratio.

Thanks for your advice RR and also Shaggydogman for sending me the link to the spawn calculator.


And when saying compost RR what do you mean? MGMC??


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7827971 - 01/03/08 03:28 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

19 x 14.5. I used a 4.2 inch sub depth in the calculator.

Using the 4:1 ratio gives 4 quarts (1 gallon) spawn to 16 quarts (4 gallons) substrate.

If you want to use 3:1 then just use your gallon of spawn and 3 gallons of sub, you sub depth will be less.

But the answer to your first question is 1 monotub at about 4:1 spawn ratio...

or

2 monotubs using and 6:1 or 8:1 ratio...


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7828030 - 01/03/08 03:38 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Thanks again Shaggy.

This might be a stupid ?

Which one will yield more? 1 or 2 monotubs?

Or should I say what would you do?

1 or 2 tubs?

And on the calculator I was using a 6 inch depth of substrate. I guess that was too much.


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7828039 - 01/03/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Quote:

eleven34 said:
Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub?

Exactly what it says fellas. Is it too much or should I do 2 Monotubs?

I would like maximum results.

Also I have coir/coffee.

If I want higher yields should I use Hpoo?

Or will I still get high yields with coir/coffee only?

Any help is appreciated.




Depends on the size of the mono tub right?

Plus, I think many experienced growers recommend avoiding any jars larger than quarts, since gallons can go bad inside fast.


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7828058 - 01/03/08 03:45 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

My jars are almost 100% colonized.

No contams. Just a few beads of Rye piss.


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7828116 - 01/03/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

well isn't it obvious that two tubs will yield you more than just one?

you'll stretch your spawn out a bit more, but you've got a gallon and that's tons


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: eleven34]
    #7828184 - 01/03/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

The less spawn you use the longer it takes to colonize the sub.

When colonizing bulk subs it is a bit of a race as to whether the myc colonizes it or contams colonizes it. The more spawn you use the more chance the myc has of winning the race.

So 4:1 vs 10:1 ratios

4:1 will colonize quicker, have less chance of contam but you will get less colonized sub at the end to fruit.

10:1 will take longer to colonize and therefore have a higher chance of contam but if successful you will have much more colonized sub to fruit.

Pays your money takes your pick!!

In your situation I would use one mono tub with all your spawn at about 3 or 4:1 ratio, as RR advised, this will give you around 4 inch sub depth which is OK.



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Edited by shaggydogman (01/03/08 04:15 PM)


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Re: Is 1 Gallon of Colonized Rye too much for 1 Monotub? [Re: Seventy]
    #7828188 - 01/03/08 04:14 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

I didn't think a gallon was that much. I guess I will use 2 tubs then.

I just thought I higher spawn to substrate ratio would create bigger results.


Thanks for your advice as well seventy. I will use 2 tubs as well as some bags.


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