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Chronic7
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Vapourising shroomz?
#7827372 - 01/03/08 12:59 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Ok some people say smoking dry shroomz can work but the trick is not to burn it too much, so i was thinking would a vapourizer work?
When i got sum dry shroomz i will try but has anyone else ever?
Ill be trying it as a pointless experiment unless it really good then ill do it again I will always think tea is the best way to get em in!
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Chronic7]
#7827586 - 01/03/08 01:56 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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As far as I was aware, heat typically causes the active ingredients (Psilocybin) in shrooms to be destroyed.
Of course, I could always be wrong.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Chronic7]
#7827608 - 01/03/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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The 'vaporize shrooms' question LOL
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Robo]
#7828228 - 01/03/08 04:25 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Don't do it, you'll just waste them. The active chemical is so sensitive that leaving them out in the sun will decrease their potency... don't even try bringing them anywhere near a flame.
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Chronic7
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Siekoaktiv]
#7831663 - 01/04/08 11:34 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Cool ill leave it, just curious...
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Chronic7]
#7831668 - 01/04/08 11:37 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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dude you sound like a noob at this shit ?
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Chronic7
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: shroomcs]
#7831690 - 01/04/08 11:43 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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It was a question man, i was curious to know if anyone had tried it.
Just cause i have 1001 posts doesn't mean ive asked every question i have....
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Chronic7]
#7831750 - 01/04/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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I actually read on these forums that if you extract the psilocybin and vaporize that then you can have an intense 1 hour mushroom trip.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: g00ru]
#7833491 - 01/04/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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its better to just do lines of spores. gets you fucked up man. yeah.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: mushnoon]
#7833661 - 01/04/08 09:18 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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mushnoon said: its better to just do lines of spores. gets you fucked up
are you serious?
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: shroomcs]
#7833664 - 01/04/08 09:20 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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sarcasm
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Robo]
#7833690 - 01/04/08 09:29 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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Sarcasm indeed.
Vaporizing psilocybin is plausible. Vaporizing an entire piece of mushroom for psilocybin isn't.
I would like to try it and see for myself. It sounds like a worthwhile experiment.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: mushnoon]
#7833773 - 01/04/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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mushnoon said: its better to just do lines of spores. gets you fucked up man. yeah.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Chronic7]
#7833816 - 01/04/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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I think there are other threads on vaporizing mushrooms.
Otherwise if you have a vaporizor (which it sounds like you do because why ask if you dont) then load a bowl and do it. It will most likely feel and taste horrible.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: implee]
#7833963 - 01/04/08 10:52 PM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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I have smoked shrooms with a normal lighter and I can feel it when sober or high on marijuana.
Not everyone can, and dont call this placebo. Most people cant feel mushrooms after simply picking them with your fingers, unlike myself. Any mind altering chemical is obvious to me when using any TINY dose. Like, at a show I take a hit off of a pipe owned buy a guy who took a nice dose of acid that night. Yep, I felt that too(it was very obvious).
Yes its a worthless method of ingestion. I can feel it though. There is no fucking doubt about it, and if some noob wants to tell me its placebo then they can suck on this fact. The fact that for some reason it does work and its not just oxygen deprivation.
Most people cant feel extreemely small doses of ANYTHING. I dont expect people to even be able to fathom that smoking mushrooms can do something, although I too dont recommend it. Not because its a nasty smoke. But instead because it hardly works. If you smoke a gram of mushrooms(fucking gross), it might feel like you ate .2 grams at the most.
When you inhale mushroom powder while smoking its a whole different story. Thats why we have so many conflicting reports.
Just dont try it.
But yes, for some people it works, and because of both unknown AND obvious reasons.
How many people would add 8th of one salvia leaf to their weed and feel it in a VERY obvious way.
Not everyone understands why this question comes up so often.
The answer is not as easy as you assholes make it seem.
I feel it, and I can also feel 3 morning glory seeds, 1/18th of a leaf of salvia on my tongue, or lsd residue on a pipe. So dont tell me this is placebo.
I do understand this more than most people ever will.
Its not worth it, but it does something to a selected few(and its likely not worth trying for those people as well). I have my theories, and mushroom powder on your shrooms is only a small part of it(inhalation of mushroom powder).
People who make fun of others for wanting to try something taboo just made me want to mention this.
Its a waist of time, but I know that it does work to some extent. Sounds weird. I know. Sorry to burst the "lets make fun of the noob" bubble.
I actually liked it. I can trip off of .2 grams orally(VERY easily). So you be the judge as to whether or not I can actually somewhat feel smoked mushrooms.
If anyone tells me all this is low dose shit is all placebo I will laugh my ass off.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
#7834777 - 01/05/08 09:09 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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Wow yageman I'm the exact same way. Like even if I only harvest one shroom I usually cut the end with the verm off and mush it around in my hand cause I like the smell and I always feel different after. Like the feeling you get when your about to come up. I'm interested in hearing more first hand reports from people who extracted and vaporized their own psilocin but vaporizing from the shrooms sounds awkward and awful.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: shroomcs]
#7834828 - 01/05/08 09:38 AM (16 years, 27 days ago) |
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shroomcs said: dude you sound like a noob at this shit ?
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shroomcs said:
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mushnoon said: its better to just do lines of spores. gets you fucked up
are you serious?
I just know there's an irony Smiley in there somewhere... :irony: common dammit.
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i meant like are you serious your a fucking idiot
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: shroomcs]
#7837936 - 01/06/08 12:38 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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shroomcs said: i meant like are you serious your a fucking idiot
I meant, "like are you seriously are a fucking idiot"
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
#7837979 - 01/06/08 01:09 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Would you say the methods to feeling tiny ammounts can be put into some sort of instructions, or are the methods more akin to getting to know the ins and outs of an instrument: some shit can't be taught, it must be done.
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No. Not here. Not right now
I dont believe in that crazy shit..............lol
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
#7838045 - 01/06/08 01:47 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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I figured as much...
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you figured what?
That I do or dont have some blueprint readily available to the masses.
Sorry.
Im not about to write a book about salvia. Thats just not really in the cards for me right now.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
#7838976 - 01/06/08 11:48 AM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Specifically feeling tiny ammounts of choice subtances; Do you think it CAN be a learned process or it has more direct relation to your genentics, in other words using what God gave ya to the best of your abilities?
I certainly think there is a combination of our nature and how we nurture the drug in relation to how it affects us, and the effects it can bestow.
Feel any way about this?
OR lost rhetoric?
I figured as much, meaning you probably wouldn't have posted a blueprint. Are you working on one? I have a few.
Either way, I'm sure your reply will be interesting.
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I dont think smoking shrooms would be worth the while, I'd just either a) Do an extraction. b) grind them up and put them in a capsule. c) make a tea. d) Just eat the damn things. Fungus isn't meant to be smoked.
Also off-topic: Yageman I always read your post and I think your really a smart guy. More recently your post have had lots of negative connotations and they were never really like that. No one attacked you in this thread at first and it seems like you flipped shit. Just wondering why you have to be so negative. (This isn't a personal attack at you, just wondering why. I don't want to cause an argument or flame thread in any way.)
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Azrah]
#7840472 - 01/06/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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I know you can feel effects from smoking aminitas, but aminitas suck.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Siekoaktiv]
#7840526 - 01/06/08 05:23 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Siekoaktiv said: Don't do it, you'll just waste them. The active chemical is so sensitive that leaving them out in the sun will decrease their potency... don't even try bringing them anywhere near a flame.
Just sneak up on a gram of mushies, and smoke them before they know what hit them;)
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Grylls]
#7840550 - 01/06/08 05:29 PM (16 years, 26 days ago) |
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Did everyone here miss the vapourized 4-ho-dmt > SUPER DMT thread in chemistry and pharmacology?
If you managed to vapourize the psilocybin / psilocin it could be much more potent than DMT (or so we speculate )
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Apollyphelion said: Specifically feeling tiny amounts of choice subtences; Do you think it CAN be a learned process or it has more direct relation to your genentics, in other words using what God gave ya to the best of your abilities?
I certainly think there is a combination of our nature and how we nurture the drug in relation to how it affects us, and the effects it can bestow.
Feel any way about this?
OR lost rhetoric?
I figured as much, meaning you probably wouldn't have posted a blueprint. Are you working on one? I have a few.
Either way, I'm sure your reply will be interesting.
I think it may have alot to do with genes and how they act on cognition. Dna being the reason for your tendencies and what not. The other part has to do with an ability to absorb the "trip", or absorb the chemical and then apply it.
I can imagine that one of the only ways to do it would be to write an almost artistic path to that place. The most likely way this teaching CAN occur would have to be done is in person. Some people can bring other people back to a tripping state of mind when they are or are not tripping at the time. Im not even so sure id call that placebo. I think this sort of stuff is a world of its own.
Using creativity and articulate linguistic capabilities to guide someone into the extremely low dose trip they might otherwise not experience(is what im talking about). To sort of create a bridge between their perception of the molecules effects, and your perception of the molecules effects at extremely low doses. To navigate the senses with them and bring them to the place where you reside on that same extremely low dose.
To some extent I know this could be almost dangerous because a person who can feel .2 grams, might be able to experience the trip so easily that they can later fool themselves into feeling it anytime, which in my opinion is entirely possible.
Its like teaching someone to become the trip.
An artistic path via text, or the spoken word would be the only way, depending on how much this really has to do with genes.
I think it has alot to do with genes. I have never experimented with people that way, so I dont know any real answer but I think I have a pretty good idea. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- And Azrah , sorry for being a dick sometimes. Im not negative in real life when talking to people. Some things I say have a good purpose but I also understand how they can make people simply not like me.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Cepheus]
#7845577 - 01/07/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Cepheus said: Did everyone here miss the vapourized 4-ho-dmt > SUPER DMT thread in chemistry and pharmacology?
If you managed to vapourize the psilocybin / psilocin it could be much more potent than DMT (or so we speculate )
I marked this project in my little book of to-do's  Doubt it will measure up to DMT,though.
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Robo]
#7846625 - 01/08/08 12:41 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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I reckon that if you managed to actually vapourise the pure material (and not burn it) it would definitely be more potent.. I'm not a neurochemist or even a biologist, but as DMT is already actively transported across the blood brain barrier, I would assume the same goes for 4-ho-dmt. Then theres the dosage issue, you have to eat more dmt than 4-ho-dmt to experience a similar effect (with an maoi in both cases)...
I just reckon if it was vapourised it would be considerably more potent
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
#7846845 - 01/08/08 04:29 AM (16 years, 24 days ago) |
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yageman said:
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Apollyphelion said: Specifically feeling tiny amounts of choice subtences; Do you think it CAN be a learned process or it has more direct relation to your genentics, in other words using what God gave ya to the best of your abilities?
I certainly think there is a combination of our nature and how we nurture the drug in relation to how it affects us, and the effects it can bestow.
Feel any way about this?
OR lost rhetoric?
I figured as much, meaning you probably wouldn't have posted a blueprint. Are you working on one? I have a few.
Either way, I'm sure your reply will be interesting.
I think it may have alot to do with genes and how they act on cognition. Dna being the reason for your tendencies and what not. The other part has to do with an ability to absorb the "trip", or absorb the chemical and then apply it.
I can imagine that one of the only ways to do it would be to write an almost artistic path to that place. The most likely way this teaching CAN occur would have to be done is in person. Some people can bring other people back to a tripping state of mind when they are or are not tripping at the time. Im not even so sure id call that placebo. I think this sort of stuff is a world of its own.
Using creativity and articulate linguistic capabilities to guide someone into the extremely low dose trip they might otherwise not experience(is what im talking about). To sort of create a bridge between their perception of the molecules effects, and your perception of the molecules effects at extremely low doses. To navigate the senses with them and bring them to the place where you reside on that same extremely low dose.
To some extent I know this could be almost dangerous because a person who can feel .2 grams, might be able to experience the trip so easily that they can later fool themselves into feeling it anytime, which in my opinion is entirely possible.
Its like teaching someone to become the trip.
An artistic path via text, or the spoken word would be the only way, depending on how much this really has to do with genes.
I think it has alot to do with genes. I have never experimented with people that way, so I dont know any real answer but I think I have a pretty good idea. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- And Azrah , sorry for being a dick sometimes. Im not negative in real life when talking to people. Some things I say have a good purpose but I also understand how they can make people simply not like me.
Very nice reply.
Awesome replies like that make me wonder how cool a Tripping School would be. You'd be a professor there. We probably wouldn't have a football team, though.
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To some extent I know this could be almost dangerous because a person who can feel .2 grams, might be able to experience the trip so easily that they can later fool themselves into feeling it anytime, which in my opinion is entirely possible.
Haha! Never thought of that. I bet that might explain Frank Zappa.
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It's understandable yageman I guess we all been there hehe.
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