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Offlineyageman
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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7838004 - 01/06/08 01:28 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

No.
Not here.
Not right now

I dont believe in that crazy shit..............lol


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
    #7838045 - 01/06/08 01:47 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

I figured as much...


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7838191 - 01/06/08 03:54 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

you figured what?

That I do or dont have some blueprint readily available to the masses.

Sorry.

Im not about to write a book about salvia.
Thats just not really in the cards for me right now.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
    #7838976 - 01/06/08 11:48 AM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Specifically feeling tiny ammounts of choice subtances; Do you think it CAN be a learned process or it has more direct relation to your genentics, in other words using what God gave ya to the best of your abilities?

I certainly think there is a combination of our nature and how we nurture the drug in relation to how it affects us, and the effects it can bestow.

Feel any way about this?

OR lost rhetoric?

I figured as much, meaning you probably wouldn't have posted a blueprint. Are you working on one? I have a few.

Either way, I'm sure your reply will be interesting.


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7839040 - 01/06/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I dont think smoking shrooms would be worth the while, I'd just either a) Do an extraction. b) grind them up and put them in a capsule. c) make a tea. d) Just eat the damn things. Fungus isn't meant to be smoked.

Also off-topic: Yageman I always read your post and I think your really a smart guy. More recently your post have had lots of negative connotations and they were never really like that. No one attacked you in this thread at first and it seems like you flipped shit. Just wondering why you have to be so negative. (This isn't a personal attack at you, just wondering why. I don't want to cause an argument or flame thread in any way.)


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Azrah]
    #7840472 - 01/06/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

I know you can feel effects from smoking aminitas, but aminitas suck.


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7840526 - 01/06/08 05:23 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Siekoaktiv said:
Don't do it, you'll just waste them. The active chemical is so sensitive that leaving them out in the sun will decrease their potency... don't even try bringing them anywhere near a flame.




Just sneak up on a gram of mushies, and smoke them before they know what hit them;)


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Grylls]
    #7840550 - 01/06/08 05:29 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

Did everyone here miss the vapourized 4-ho-dmt > SUPER DMT thread in chemistry and pharmacology?

If you managed to vapourize the psilocybin / psilocin it could be much more potent than DMT (or so we speculate :nerd:)


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7845566 - 01/07/08 08:38 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
Specifically feeling tiny amounts of choice subtences; Do you think it CAN be a learned process or it has more direct relation to your genentics, in other words using what God gave ya to the best of your abilities?

I certainly think there is a combination of our nature and how we nurture the drug in relation to how it affects us, and the effects it can bestow.

Feel any way about this?

OR lost rhetoric?

I figured as much, meaning you probably wouldn't have posted a blueprint. Are you working on one? I have a few.

Either way, I'm sure your reply will be interesting.




I think it may have alot to do with genes and how they act on cognition. Dna being the reason for your tendencies and what not.
The other part has to do with an ability to absorb the "trip", or absorb the chemical and then apply it.

I can imagine that one of the only ways to do it would be to write an almost artistic path to that place.
The most likely way this teaching CAN occur would have to be done is in person.
Some people can bring other people back to a tripping state of mind when they are or are not tripping at the time. Im not even so sure id call that placebo. I think this sort of stuff is a world of its own.

Using creativity and articulate linguistic capabilities to guide someone into the extremely low dose trip they might otherwise not experience(is what im talking about).
To sort of create a bridge between their perception of the molecules effects, and your perception of the molecules effects at extremely low doses. To navigate the senses with them and bring them to the place where you reside on that same extremely low dose.

To some extent I know this could be almost dangerous because a person who can feel .2 grams, might be able to experience the trip so easily that they can later fool themselves into feeling it anytime, which in my opinion is entirely possible.

Its like teaching someone to become the trip.

An artistic path via text, or the spoken word would be the only way, depending on how much this really has to do with genes.

I think it has alot to do with genes.
I have never experimented with people that way, so I dont know any real answer but I think I have a pretty good idea.
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And Azrah , sorry for being a dick sometimes. Im not negative in real life when talking to people. Some things I say have a good purpose but I also understand how they can make people simply not like me.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Cepheus]
    #7845577 - 01/07/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

Cepheus said:
Did everyone here miss the vapourized 4-ho-dmt > SUPER DMT thread in chemistry and pharmacology?

If you managed to vapourize the psilocybin / psilocin it could be much more potent than DMT (or so we speculate :nerd:)



I marked this project in my little book of to-do's :smile:
Doubt it will measure up to DMT,though.


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Robo]
    #7846625 - 01/08/08 12:41 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

I reckon that if you managed to actually vapourise the pure material (and not burn it) it would definitely be more potent.. I'm not a neurochemist or even a biologist, but as DMT is already actively transported across the blood brain barrier, I would assume the same goes for 4-ho-dmt. Then theres the dosage issue, you have to eat more dmt than 4-ho-dmt to experience a similar effect (with an maoi in both cases)...

I just reckon if it was vapourised it would be considerably more potent :shrug:


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: yageman]
    #7846845 - 01/08/08 04:29 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Quote:

yageman said:
Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
Specifically feeling tiny amounts of choice subtences; Do you think it CAN be a learned process or it has more direct relation to your genentics, in other words using what God gave ya to the best of your abilities?

I certainly think there is a combination of our nature and how we nurture the drug in relation to how it affects us, and the effects it can bestow.

Feel any way about this?

OR lost rhetoric?

I figured as much, meaning you probably wouldn't have posted a blueprint. Are you working on one? I have a few.

Either way, I'm sure your reply will be interesting.




I think it may have alot to do with genes and how they act on cognition.  Dna being the reason for your tendencies and what not.
  The other part has to do with an ability to absorb the "trip", or absorb the chemical and then apply it.

  I can imagine that one of the only ways to do it would be to write an almost artistic path to that place.
  The most likely way this teaching CAN occur would have to be done is in person.
Some people can bring other people back to a tripping state of mind when they are or are not tripping at the time.  Im not even so sure id call that placebo.  I think this sort of stuff is a world of its own.

  Using creativity and articulate linguistic capabilities to guide someone into the extremely low dose trip they might otherwise not experience(is what im talking about).
To sort of create a bridge between their perception of the molecules effects, and your perception of the molecules effects at extremely low doses.  To navigate the senses with them and bring them to the place where you reside on that same extremely low dose.

  To some extent I know this could be almost dangerous because a person who can feel .2 grams, might be able to experience the trip so easily that they can later fool themselves into feeling it anytime, which in my opinion is entirely possible.

  Its like teaching someone to become the trip.

  An artistic path via text, or the spoken word would be the only way, depending on how much this really has to do with genes.

I think it has alot to do with genes.
  I have never experimented with people that way, so I dont know any real answer but I think I have a pretty good idea.
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And Azrah , sorry for being a dick sometimes.  Im not negative in real life when talking to people.  Some things I say have a good purpose but I also understand how they can make people simply not like me.




Very nice reply.

Awesome replies like that make me wonder how cool a Tripping School would be. You'd be a professor there. We probably wouldn't have a football team, though.

Quote:

  To some extent I know this could be almost dangerous because a person who can feel .2 grams, might be able to experience the trip so easily that they can later fool themselves into feeling it anytime, which in my opinion is entirely possible.




Haha! Never thought of that.
I bet that might explain Frank Zappa.:smirk:


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Re: Vapourising shroomz? [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7847237 - 01/08/08 10:01 AM (16 years, 24 days ago)

It's understandable yageman I guess we all been there hehe.


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