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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: citricacidx]
    #17302521 - 11/29/12 11:11 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Oh hell no, it's bad enough when I get a string of bad trades for myself, but having that happen with other people's money just isn't something I would ever want to do.  Too much stress, and I ain't about stressin'.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #17302630 - 11/29/12 11:36 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Not that it's the same as the stock market, but what is your opinion on investing in gold and/or silver?


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #17302655 - 11/29/12 11:40 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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geo, you should setup a managed mutual fund and ill just give you money :awesomenod:



Yes I would defiantly get behind something like that!



Haha, i would be behind it as well
but i get the whole stress thing. im the same way


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: citricacidx]
    #17302688 - 11/29/12 11:47 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

I own both silver and gold.  Definitely seems smart, if you have assets available to allocate, to put some into the precious metals.  There are tremendous debt burdens upon governments throughout the world in conjunction with struggling economies.  These economic scenarios appear to be leading governments to attempt to inflate their way out of debt and/or utilize artificially low interest rates to spur economic growth in the near term, a consequence of which is running an increased risk of longer term inflation.  To be clear, I'm not buying gold and silver in an attempt to get rich quick, but rather to diversify my portfolio and keep a portion of my assets protected against inflationary pressures and global fear.  It's all about balance.

To those of you making comments about me managing your money.  I'm flattered but honestly, I'm not a great trader.  I've had some big wins and I've had some big losses... in the end, I'm just trying to keep a slight edge to make some scratch with my spare capital.  Nothing magic about what I'm doing, and if you take the time to get some experience in the market, I'm sure you can do just as good if not better.  The key is in managing your risk, wrangling in your emotions and trading with discipline.  Even though I've said it a hundred times, I still make the mistake of letting conviction get the better of my discipline, and invariably lose money whenever that happens!


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #17302964 - 11/29/12 12:51 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Geokills Capital Management Trust has a nice ring to it!:grin:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #17303163 - 11/29/12 01:28 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Geokills Capital Management Trust has a nice ring to it!:grin:




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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: citricacidx]
    #17303269 - 11/29/12 01:45 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Geokills Capital Management Trust has a nice ring to it!:grin:




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I'm sold!
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #17304586 - 11/29/12 05:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, if I didn't like managing my own money so much I would trust Geo with my limited capital. 

It's been a couple weeks of swings for me.  My biggest winner lately has been RIMM.  My time frame is longer for this one, looking at the weekly chart it looks as though a volatility squeeze to the upside may happen. Also according to my platform, there is quite a bit of short shares still out.  I am holding a core position and buying this one on pullbacks.

I've also had some losers over this week to cancel out the majority of winners - which leaves me about flat over the last 7 trading days.  I was also shaken out of some stocks that would have been pretty big winners - probably my biggest disappointment.

I really can't make too big of a guess where the market is going so I am both long and short different positions. Trying to be short under-performers and long over-performers so whichever way the market goes I'll hopefully make a little money.

My current positions:

SHORT:
KBH
HPQ
FAZ (long the stock but it is a short financial ETF)

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AGNC
AAPL
ALK
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: ben_dover0802]
    #17309290 - 11/30/12 01:57 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Not one to begrudge a 200% profit, but I did sell my FB calls too soon.  Should've just maintained my stop below the prior day's low (as I had been doing) cause that stock is still smokin'.  Alas, that pesky 200 day moving average looming overhead got my trigger finger itchy! :crazy2:

Likewise, my $56 call option "lotto tickets" on the SDS are doing the same thing the lotto does... taking my money. :crankey:

Still want me to invest for you guys? :tongue2::spliff:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #17309898 - 11/30/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Yes :flyhigh:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #17310421 - 11/30/12 05:14 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Not one to begrudge a 200% profit, but I did sell my FB calls too soon.  Should've just maintained my stop below the prior day's low (as I had been doing) cause that stock is still smokin'.  Alas, that pesky 200 day moving average looming overhead got my trigger finger itchy! :crazy2:

Likewise, my $56 call option "lotto tickets" on the SDS are doing the same thing the lotto does... taking my money. :crankey:

Still want me to invest for you guys? :tongue2::spliff:




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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #17310801 - 11/30/12 06:11 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Hehe, you guys are too sweet... or maybe just crazy! :crazy2:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #17313607 - 12/01/12 08:03 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Not one to begrudge a 200% profit, but I did sell my FB calls too soon.  Should've just maintained my stop below the prior day's low (as I had been doing) cause that stock is still smokin'.  Alas, that pesky 200 day moving average looming overhead got my trigger finger itchy! :crazy2:

Likewise, my $56 call option "lotto tickets" on the SDS are doing the same thing the lotto does... taking my money. :crankey:

Still want me to invest for you guys? :tongue2::spliff:




Most certainly


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #17314108 - 12/01/12 10:38 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I havn't been here in a bit either, i find myself constantly watching my positions now, and just trying to keep a leash on myself to not get into to many positions. I pretty much have just become an options trader only, mainly finding it difficult to invest with a small account. Did well the first few weeks, not so well the next few, but this rally has been good.

What I've learned from that is i need to recognize the market moving against me and not try to fight it and just keep my money ready for the reversal. I made a boatload on apple and google on that reversal day which made back what i lost (a lot) over the few weeks prior a I've made some good ones in fb and rimm. Not following omm trades exactly, cheaper options usually.

I got out of fb Friday at that scary open, goog and apple to. Wish i stayed in fb also. I had a line drawn on my chart at Thursdays close but didn't listen to it. No big, still a nice gain of just over 100%(was a little late to the trade waiting on a pullback)

Long amt jan 72.50 calls and just sold my third set of calls against them Dec 75 this time. I buy them back at the bottom of the range and sell them at the top and I'm up about 25% though my long call is only 5% of that, its all been from selling covered calls.

Bought some sprint Dec 6 dollar calls for .04 a few weeks ago. Wish i bought Jan or march, but still time for the squeeze to pop. For some reason clwr popped Friday though, bought some 2 dollar jan calls for.50 about flat right now but there was big buying on Friday.

Holding dhi puts at 17.50 jan, bought Monday i think. A little early but still looks to be rolling over so I'm still holding.

Long cheap Disney and Ford calls, had them since Thanksgiving week and still just out of the money. Dec expiration so if the pop up the next few weeks they'll start becoming profitable.

Went long grpn on Friday, ouch, 5 Jan calls for .35, down about 25%. Still loss of buying despite gap down, but much lower and its gone.

Was short mnst, bought jan 42.50 puts, but when it started spiking i sold Jan 47.50 puts against. They're in the money about 25% but I'm watching the stock and if it heads down (fundamentally it could and probably will) before they expire, I'll buy the 47.50 puts back.

Went long qcom via apr 62.50 calls last week, those are up about 20%.

I bought some sds calls for a little insurance those are down a bit. Also bought wfc dec 33 puts for.59 which are flat.

I have trouble not being in a lot of stocks so i keep my positions small. I cut losses when the trend breaks or change my options strategy, like mnst, turning a put into a bull put spread. And amt which hasn't been a winner, selling covered calls. Now i just need to work on my timing, and sticking to my own rules. Discipline is tough but needed when trading. Looking back it had mainly been patience i need.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: scatmanrav]
    #17338818 - 12/05/12 02:16 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Well a bit of an odd day in the market i feel. 2 of the major indexes (DIJA and NASDAQ) were split by almost 1.5%. However my portfolio did seem to follow suit.

LPHI popped almost 16% today while i sold 75% of my shares at close for a nice 22% profit over the past few weeks. But AGNC being the largest percent of my portfolio dragged me down with it causing me to break perfectly even on the day.

Always nice when a stock I own pops and im able to book a decent gain.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #17339928 - 12/05/12 05:52 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I'm keeping my distance, this market is held hostage to the fiscal cliff negociations.  The way it bounced mid-day when Obama said "we could get a deal done in a week" or something to that effect is absolutely ridiculous.  Just the other day it was swooning equally hard when Boehner said they weren't even close.  I mean WTF.  The political situation in this country makes me queasy, and the way the markets hang on every li'l thing coming out of Washington is a disgrace.  I hope there is no deal, and we are forced to make some draconian spending cuts and tax increases, christ it's what needs to be done anyway.  And to think, once again there is chatter about needing to raise the debt ceiling yet again.

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It's bizarro world around here man... everyone seems so goddamned short sighted, just diggin' that grave a little deeper until we realize we dug so deep we can't even get out.  BURIED ALIVE!  :facepalm:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #17340469 - 12/05/12 07:28 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Ah yes. The crazy way in which our stock market reacts to (half of the time) irrelevant news tidbits. I agree that until this fiscal cliff is behind us, that the markets are very unstable and generally more susceptible to falling as bad news weighs heavier than good. Especially since The US has a recent habit of not coming up with the best plan at the best time.
"we are forced to make some draconian spending cuts and tax increases, christ it's what needs to be done anyway"
Now i definitely agree that something this drastic needs to be done in order to prevent someone worse looming ahead, but alas no politician could/would ever risk supporting such a position. The shortsighted american people would not react favorably.

Okay, so in light of these unfavorable conditions, one would want to reduce exposure to the market, right? Well thats my main problem. Idk what to get rid of. I "have a reason" not to sell almost all of my stocks.

My positions:
AGNC - 34%
ARR    -18.94%
ATVI  -6.10%
BKCC  -10.85%
HIL    -17.83%
LPHI  -0.83%
PGH    -5.52%
VE      -3.05%
With Cash representing a mere 3.18%

With 72.06% (AGNC, ARR, BKCC, PGH, VE) of my portfolio being dividend stocks that I plan on holding for decades. So I feel like I shouldn't sell these. Although I make sell PGH late December in order to offset any gains I have this year.
HIL is so thinly traded that I am not very worried about the overall market affecting the price. I am also comfortable with the current price and appearance of the chart. I plan to hold until a move above 4 or back down to 3.
Then this is a strong part of the year for retail stocks, such as ATVI. So idk  if i should sell. Plus I will have owned for over a year by the time the annual dividend rolls around and I would not be opposed to hold this long term. (I did not trade my plan and held onto it as a loser in the beginning, damn emotions, but that was about a year ago)
This just leaves the tiny .83% of LPHI that I could cut to reduce exposure.

Since the majority of my portfolio is long, should I just not worry as much about cutting exposure in times like these? I have been toying with the idea of opening another account where I will make more short-lived trades as a solution. I understand that I should generally have more cash on hand, but personally I want to have as much of my portfolio out there and working for me as possible.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #17342233 - 12/06/12 01:03 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I have similar issues. I like having alot of positions working for me. I dont mind cutting any though, I just dont mind adding either. Somtimes I should.

Its working over all for me. But I have to watch my positions and be quick. Went short on AAPL on Thursday early on which was a big winner for me today, same with WFC, cashed out of both as the president went on. The puts made me a sickening amount of money and my account is finally back up in the green (by 20% too) since September. November was a bad month. Though I learned a lot.

Long AMT still (closed my covered calls on the spike down today) Long CLWR and S (though I think these are bad ideas, especially sprint, I guess its capped off). Long F, DIS and MNST. Still short DHI and the SPY (long SDS puts, inverse the SPY). Today I just closed a few positions, only started one new one, a 91/93 bear call spread on the IWT (dow jones transportation index). It trades in a range and I'm going to try to take advantage and see how it works out. This makes me short the IYT.

Bambi, for whatever my advice is worth (not much, I'm still making so many mistakes)...

AGNC's chart doesnt look very good, unless you look at the monthly, then much better. The begining of the year was strong it was just up up up after march, then Aug/Sept it went down down down to even it out. But any time its spiked down really hard on fear, its been bought back up quickly. Its at the middle BB on the monthly chart and has usually stayed above it, and when it went below last year, it wasnt for long. This has been the hardest spike down over the last few months but if a deal is struck, all stocks will rise. If not, they will flop around like a dying fish. Either way this is a great long term hold. A gread candidate for selling covered calls.

ARR is ok, in a base in the monthly chart, but its just always gone down. Thats a problem because there are few real winners and less reason for it to go up. But with this base it will probably hold. This is one I would sell covered calls against. It would work with any of your dividend stocks but ones in a base like this that never go anywhere are easy to sell calls against that never expire. Assuming your cost basis is around here 7 dollars you can sell 8 dollar calls against it. If it stays under 8 you collect the money every month (more dividend) if it goes over 8 (last time was back in 2010) you still keep all the money you collect every month and sell your stock for a dollar more then where you bought it. Then you buy it back and sell again. Low risk and easy to change your account to do this.

VE looks decent right here right now, but overall trend seems to be down. There are better yield hogs I think. I'd be looking to get out of this and into something working better.

PGH I'd be out of for sure. This puppy has to be losing you way more then its making you.

ATVI has been in a trading range for years and is coming off the bottom of that range again. If you just got in and are in it short term, it looks good up to the 200 DMA @about 11.80. If it goes through that (probably only will on a fiscal cliff deal but who knows) then it could go up to 12.80 again, but thats the top of the range so that would be it. And if it breaks through that, skys the limit.

BKCC is just a base. Slooow uptrend. Good if you got in on that dip. Good to sell covered calls against it (10.50-11 dollar range). If just waiting for it to go up, you could probably find some other places to put your money to work.

HIL is another nice short term one. resistance above, needs something to push it through. the 50 and 200 DMA are at about 3.70, will probably bounce off that, if it pushes through, there could be another nice 50 cents upside before more resistance.

LPHI is the most interesting to me. I'll watch this one for a pullback to test the 200 DMA and try to get in around 2.50. It will probably pull back very soon and then would look to be a lot higher in the future IMO.

The only ones I'd hold would be LPHI, HIL, ATVI, AGNC, ARR, and VE. The rest your just waiting for the government to do SOMETHING.

V always looks good..


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: scatmanrav]
    #17343286 - 12/06/12 09:12 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

scatmanrav, I appreciate the advice! No matter who from its always useful to see someone else's perspective. Besides, I've made many a mistake and am continuing to do so.

AGNC, ARR, and BKCC I just hold for the 10%+ dividend, so im not too worried about growth. Also, Obama getting reelected was not the best thing to happen for these stocks so until Obama and congress figure out how to tax dividends in the future I doubt any will have major growth.

VE was the first stock I ever bought... about a week before the drop from 26$ to 16$. The company had issues and decided to downsize by over 50%. I think that since they have even taken any action it is a good sign. I see good things in this company 5-10 years down the road. Maybe holding stock isnt the best way to show I see growth in the company, but i dont have any real reason not to hold until I need the money for something else or to take a loss at the end of next year maybe.

PGH is a big loser I agree. I will be selling this guy soon. Hopefully the squeeze its starting to go through will push it up 50 cents or so where I will definitely sell.

LPHI, why didnt i just sell all of my shares yesterday :facepalm: , but yeah, it is an interesting stock. LPHI has a few issues as a company. but i think there is upside as a court case they won in september had driven the price down to a 52 week low prior to the victory.

Then I think youre pretty spot on with ATVI and HIL.

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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #17347236 - 12/06/12 09:51 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

LPHI is still making higher highs and higher lows. Keep a stop set at the previous days low to lock in your profits and still let it run up.

Today I added a long position in AAPL, it looks poised for another run up and a short position in GMCR. Both of which are up nicely today and will be watching closely tomorrow, especially GMCR. It will probably be moving higher in the near future, maybe tomorrow, maybe next week. AAPL I think might be a good hold until Monday at least, I'll be keeping a stop at the previous days low though and let it run up. All other positions are working, or at the very least staying in their range.


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