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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] * 1
    #27709102 - 03/26/22 06:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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  2% yield on my position in under 3 trading days




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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #27711278 - 03/28/22 07:57 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

With MARA @ 32.40, up better than 10% on the day, I've sold April 1 $33.50 calls against the position for $1.35 (a 4%+ yield in a week).


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] * 1
    #27711293 - 03/28/22 08:19 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Wtf is MARA?


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #27711452 - 03/28/22 11:37 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Marathon Digital Holdings, a domestic cryptocurrency mining operation.  Its stock moves directionally more or less in lockstep with bitcoin, although typically with greater %-runs.  Because of the big moves, options are priced very richly and thus slant even more than usual toward benefitting sellers of premium.  Hence why I use short puts to build up common stock exposure to MARA (and/or capture yield throughout the process) and then use short calls against whatever common shares I may be holding to eventually reduce that common stock exposure (and/or capture yield throughout the process).  As I suspect MARA has good growth prospects in the years to come, it's a nice way to manufacture an exceptional dividend on a stock where I suspect the underlying common shares will also continue higher.  Selling weekly options should easily yield a better than 100% annual return on whatever I dedicate to locking up in MARA common, and up to 200% if I am exceptionally diligent about it.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] * 3
    #27711649 - 03/28/22 02:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I made money today, motherfuckers!!!

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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #27712261 - 03/28/22 11:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Aye, was a good day.  Nice to be holding TSLA and AMZN, and through the thick of it too, now watching this pre split stuff that’s going on. No guarantees of course but I like being on this side of the trade :smile:

TSLA stock has been like a best friend to me haha.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: ManianFH] * 1
    #27712381 - 03/29/22 01:12 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Amd showing potential reversal here


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #27712566 - 03/29/22 08:18 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Lost $40 right at the get this morning

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Started great too

Out of day trades for now


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #27712607 - 03/29/22 09:11 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

As is so often the case, Dan Fitzpatrick of StockMarketMentor.com makes his points crystal clear and drives home important takeaways to keep you on track.  Since he has already written it so eloquently, I'm going to share his morning missive here.  If you like what you read, go join StockMarketMentor.com, it has been the single most valuable tool I have come across in learning how to trade, and they have an active private forum which can key you in quickly to focal points and make you feel part of a larger trading desk.  I mention his website often because it really helps me stay focused, or regain focus after having taken a break.  I am not being paid to shill here, indeed I've been paying him for decades for the quality he produces.  Anyone serious about trading their own account should take the opportunity to learn from the experts, of which there are quite a few lingering around the SMM community.

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Good morning.  Futures are pointing at a higher open...again.  This rally continues to impress.  One of the lesser watched aspects of this remarkable advance during these last two weeks of March is the closing location values of the S&P ($SPY) and the Nasdaq 100 ($QQQ).  You'll notice that virtually all of them have closed the day at or near the high end of the intraday range.  And with the exception of March 23rd, the intraday lows and highs have been progressively higher.  The takeaway is that this is real buying interest.  Sellers are reluctant to sell, and buyers are eager to buy.

Given the backdrop of negative headlines, this is the typical Wall of Worry.  It is difficult to detach your trading and investing decisions from the news flow, but doing so is essential for achieving success.  It should ultimately become a habit.  Stock prices factor in all past, present, and future developments.  That is a basic tenet of the Wisdom of the Crowd theory, which posits the theory that the collective wisdom of the crowd is ultimately smarter than the smartest individual in that crowd.  And that collective wisdom includes the dopes, the dimwits, the fools, the timid, the aggressive, the prognosticators, the gamblers, the wise and the patient, the well-informed, the ill-informed, the fundamentalists (both good and bad), the chart watchers, the insiders, the mutual funds, the habitual losers and the consistent winners.  The aggregate of all market participants, when put into a Vitamix blender and made into a market smoothie, comes out smarter than the smartest guy in the soup.

When you buy into this theory (and you should, because it's true), you will ultimately be attracted to chart analysis because the charts reveal the truth that is defined by the Crowd.  Probably the single biggest factor in under performance and failure is the natural tendency to believe that knowing more gives you an edge.  You study the fundamentals. You listen to the conference call. You study analysts reports. You read articles. You parse numbers such as P/E, quarterly earnings, revenue, profit margins, debt-to-equity ratios, and the remaining myriad of fundamental data.  And in doing so, you think that you know a lot -- and you do.  But it is a fool's errand to engage in such analysis and study to the exclusion of simply chart analysis.  Why?  Because all of the information you have learned is also known by someone else.  Actually, many "someone elses."  It's not new. It's not some kind of magical discovery that you've made.  It's just an approach that takes the long way around the the path to knowing whether to buy, sell, watch, or hold the stock.  And the funny thing is that it still misses the mark.

This is the basis for that oft-asked question:  "Do you want to be right, or do you want to make money?"

The money is made in the sitting...not the buying and selling.  When you pay attention to the chart [i.e., behavior of prices], you pay attention to the only thing that matters.  When you start mucking things up with additional knowledge, your mind starts overriding what you see.  It starts to out think the price action.  Again, price is truth.  So what do you think your brilliant mind is doing?  It is ignoring the truth.

As the typical liar, fraudster or cheater says in response to being challenged, "Who are you going to believe? Me?  Or your lying eyes?"

Don't succumb to the desire to gather information that can lead you astray.  Just follow the price action.  Don't over think things.  Children and illiterates can make a lot of money if they only look at pictures.  It's the geniuses who have a hard time.  Why?  Review what I have said above. They think that they are smarter than everyone else.  And they might be.  But they are never smarter than the entire crowd of traders who ultimately determine what the definition of smart is.  When it comes to making money, the genius runs the biggest risk of being the dunce.  He may believe that he is right.  But being right has cost him everything.

FYI: I find that paying attention to the weekly charts causes me to trade less.  While commissions are now a thing of the past, high turnover in your account is more costly than any commission that a broker can charge.  Just stick with the trend of the stock.  You'll be right every time...except once: When the trend actually ends.  And I'll take those odds every day.

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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] * 1
    #27713295 - 03/29/22 06:24 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Pltr too


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    #27713572 - 03/29/22 11:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Awesome read Geo!

I will say when shit hit the fan these past few months, deciding to sit and let it ride out was one of the better decisions I could’ve made. I lost 8k in a matter of 30 days and am now back at even. The one big difference from the me trader 2 years ago is I don’t have a headache from overthinking the red days.

The plan for now is to continue to ride pre-split growth. If it declines I plan to hold it and ride through the split. If they continue to rise into the split I’ll sell beforehand. Eventually I want to transition from my usuals back into SPY. However long that takes is anyones guess though :smile:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] * 1
    #27713603 - 03/30/22 01:43 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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The money is made in the sitting...not the buying and selling.




I know this might sound pedantic but money is ONLY made when you sell.

I loved that read though. I think at least for the next year or so I’m going to be a different animal than people who do options. I’ve concluded they’re intentionally cryptic and I’m not smart enough.

Buy low sell high. I understand the fuck out of that.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheFakeSunRa] * 1
    #27713778 - 03/30/22 08:21 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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I know this might sound pedantic but money is ONLY made when you sell.




I don't prefer to look at my books that way.  Yes, it is true that selling "locks in" whatever gain or loss your position may have, but the gain or loss is still there regardless of whether you sell, and it didn't show up because you sell, it showed up because of what happened during the time that has passed since you purchased.  Your entry, or how/when you buy, will have a more consistent positive impact on how well you trade over a longer time horizon, compared to focusing on how/when to sell.

To extrapolate a bit on my philosophy, I prefer to focus on the money that can be lost - that is, the risk - rather than the money that can be made, which tends to take care of itself when you properly manage your risk.  If I have a large unrealized loss on a position, that money is gone, regardless of whether I liquidate the position back to cash.  Could the position claw it's way back into the black if I let it ride?  Maybe... but so could any number of other allocations for the same capital, and in most cases, reallocating from a loser into something that is behaving better is going to be considerably more profitable than sitting around waiting for your loser to un-lose itself.  I've been actively trading for nearly two decades now, and I'm definitely speaking from personal experience when I say that falling into the trap of waiting on a losing position because the loss hasn't yet been "realized" is a good way to lose even more money.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] * 1
    #27714296 - 03/30/22 03:56 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Respect bro

hanging on to a loser when swallowing that loss and reinvesting in a winner will make you more … it’s pretty obvious what the right move is

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"Do you want to be right, or do you want to make money?"




I wanna make money, sir.

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Just follow the price action.




Buy low and sell high

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price is truth




Shout Amen!

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I've been actively trading for nearly two decades now, and I'm definitely speaking from personal experience 




I know I have a way that annoys people or seems to suggest I’m disagreeing with them or whatever. It shows in my ratings. But know this brother, I consider your words on here a treasure and my only regret is my inability to understand certain things


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] * 1
    #27714513 - 03/30/22 06:54 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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With MARA @ 32.40, up better than 10% on the day, I've sold April 1 $33.50 calls against the position for $1.35 (a 4%+ yield in a week).




I ended up closing these calls out early by buying them back this morning for $0.22 each.  Reason being is that, having captured 84% of max profit on the calls, it made sense to sell a lower strike that still expires Friday, in order to capture additional yield.

So after buying back the $33.50 calls for $1.13 profit (a 3.5% yield in two days time), I turned around and immediately sold the weekly $31 calls @ $0.90.  With MARA @ around $30.65, that’s another 3% yield at expiration… for a total of 6.5% in 5 days.  I really dig this conservative technique of building income on positions you want to be exposed to anyway.

Savvy viewers may note that MARA was down $1.75 when I sold the lower strike calls (and even lower by the close) relative to where I had sold the weeklies on Monday, and so one might wonder why I didn't just sell the stock on Monday and buy it back today.  There are a couple reasons why you might not want to flip the underlying common, but chief among them for me, was that I didn't have much directional confidence on MARA, and so had I sold, I would have lost exposure to a stock that I actually like and want to hold for a while.

What I did have confidence in, was the time value bleeding out of the call options quickly, since they expire in less than a week.  When selling out of the money covered calls, time is really on your side, because there is no intrinsic value to an out of the money option, it's 100% time value.  Time value bleeds out increasingly quickly, the closer to expiration you get.


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    #27715963 - 03/31/22 11:26 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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I know I have a way that annoys people or seems to suggest I’m disagreeing with them or whatever. It shows in my ratings. But know this brother, I consider your words on here a treasure and my only regret is my inability to understand certain things




I am a little annoyed now

Jk, you’re golden. Stick around and keep persistent. I’m not anywhere near the level of aptitude of some of the bright minds on here.  It have become a better trader just by trying to capture what I can.

This is one of the best threads in the shroomery and your sir are right where you should be


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    #27716378 - 04/01/22 10:57 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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With MARA @ 32.40, up better than 10% on the day, I've sold April 1 $33.50 calls against the position for $1.35 (a 4%  yield in a week).




So after buying back the $33.50 calls for $1.13 profit (a 3.5% yield in two days time), I turned around and immediately sold the weekly $31 calls @ $0.90.  With MARA @ around $30.65, that’s another 3% yield at expiration… for a total of 6.5% in 5 days.




Just going to continue chasing these yields down.  Bought back the $33.50 calls to close (for $0.01, capturing over 99% of the contract value), turned around and sold the $28 calls expiring at the end of today's session, for another $0.30, which brings the week's total captured premium to $2.32, pushing an average 7.5% yield in 5 trading days.  Note that the $28 calls I just sold are close enough to the current price that I may indeed end up with my shares called away today.  Had I been at my desk instead of my more important job (as Dad), I could've even sold the $29's for more yield on the spike earlier this morning.  Nevertheless, I'll circle back near the close and if the shares are trading right at $28, I'll pay the penny or two to close out the short calls in order to retain my common stock position.  If I do get called away, that's OK too, I'll just start selling some puts to rebuild the position.

MARA's had a bit of a lid on it even as crypto has been producing some meaningful upside.  I think it's only a matter of time until MARA catches up... Then again, I'm not 100% sure what exactly MARA is mining (although I presume they are utilizing ASIC's for BTC); since ETH is generally the most profitable to mine, there may be a bit of confusion/negative perception surrounding mining outfits, as ETH is increasingly close to their Proof of Stake migration, which will severely reduce a lot of present day mining profits.


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    #27718495 - 04/02/22 07:34 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)



I heard someone say when the green candles touch that’s often a good time to buy.

Is that legit?


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    #27718734 - 04/02/22 10:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

:whatnonono:

If you want to take a side-by-side candle pattern trade, look for an "inside day" and follow the direction of the eventual breakout.


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    #27719200 - 04/03/22 10:08 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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:whatnonono:

If you want to take a side-by-side candle pattern trade, look for an "inside day" and follow the direction of the eventual breakout.




Cool.

I’m interested in BWV - Blue Water Vaccines for a scalp

It’s new and bouncing around - maybe worth looking at

I’m also waiting for Zillow to hit a 52 week low for a rebound

Halliburton has been reliable and these seems like Halliburtonian type days


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You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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