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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: ManianFH] 1
#27530680 - 11/04/21 10:47 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, anyone see that PENN dip? Yiick, what happened? Thats the kind of turnarund that can really traumatize a position. It’s on my outside list of keep an eye on stocks, scary to think about being heavily weighted in something like that without a thoughtful stop in place.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 1
#27531056 - 11/05/21 08:54 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Remarkable how well the Fed threaded the needle on their announcement to basically blow smoke about how the economy has been improving enough and inflation is present enough (but still apparently transitory) so as to allow them to very gingerly trim back on their treasury bond and mortgage-backed security purchases. I mean they really danced the dance on this one, and the market appears to have dug it.
Looks like PENN had a bad report on earnings, with profit down 40% from the year prior. There's apparently some sexual misconduct allegations involved against one of their associated executives to add more fuel to the dumpster fire. Big break on PENN, I wouldn't touch it here. If you hold it, set a stop at this morning's low and see how much it can claw back.
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geokills said: Meanwhile, I do have a few January calls on COIN that I held through the September swoon which are now up around 60%, and some common stock in TSLA that's up a good 25%; wish I'd held my options on that one but alas, I got shaken out of those and never circled back.
I haven't yet jumped back into equities, but I did take the TSLA common off the table for a better than 60% gain earlier in the week. January calls on COIN are still riding, up 116%. I'm tempted to close them out here, but crypto in aggregate has been SO strong, and these still have more than two months left on the contract. The stock is nearly at all time highs.. well, the literal ATH is $429.54 from its frenzied IPO day, but the stock closed that same day at a brutal $328, so in my view, seeing the stock firmly moving above $340 presently is a de facto all time high and can give this one considerable room to run into the end of the year.
Looks like my boys over at StockMarketMentor more or less agree, as they released this free video earlier in the week:
Shame I wasn't paying attention to MARA... that one has been a big money maker for me in the past, and definitely provided a big opportunity via options last month.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 1
#27531190 - 11/05/21 10:48 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Picked up 15x Dec 2023 calls on Z. I think theyll make a comeback within 18 months.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Nimpo] 1
#27534013 - 11/07/21 04:24 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have heard lots of rumor of a crypto crunch happening soon. I haven't looked into it. My main focus is always energy/oil as my main contacts are there.
$ULCC <-- frontier airlines 20SMA diverging from 50SMA after close to breakout entries would be v nice last week but can still jump in $TELL still a banger as we know new bill mentions natural gas more then 100+ times $$$$ $SBET <--momentum and front loading has begun 10$ target on SBET
$SFM - southwest farmers market chain was on radar last month made its moves 28$ target
$GOL <- brazilian airlines stock gonna see more $$$ lots of travel waiting for $HBM buy signals still nothing yet but this is a heavy watch
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Gorlax] 1
#27535734 - 11/08/21 04:43 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stock market showing life
Infrastructure bill passing to blame ?
God do I regret not being able to hold my AMD shares
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 2
#27536216 - 11/09/21 08:17 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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geokills said: I cheated and bought a very small position on COIN near the close yesterday, via Jan $250 calls (logic below). Crypto has improving technical structure with no giveback after some nice consolidation over the past few weeks. MARA is another one you'd want to be in, but I don't think I can buy it up here.
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Watch COIN settling in here at its 50 day moving average. I would like to see it bounce around between its 50 day SMA @ $243.50 and its 200 day EMA at $280 for another week or two, to really firm up a support zone. If that happens, a subsequent move up and above its 200 day EMA @ ~$280 could be rather explosive. Coinbase's board of directors recently approved the purchase of $500 million in crypto assets, making COIN increasingly correlated to the movement of the crypto sector in general. This also gives them an advantage as a market maker, as they have extensive information on where money is going through their exchange. Market makers are required to provide an orderly exchange to benefit traders, and COIN's trading desk will have a huge edge because they can tag along with the order flow that they have first read/privileged access to. Note, I'm not buying this here, but I will be watching it for an opportunity.
Closed out these Jan $250 calls on COIN for a +155% gain this morning. The stock is still looking OK, but it is really extended, and these are so deep in the money, that I'd rather claim a victory and possibly look to re-enter "at the money" on a pullback.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 1
#27536496 - 11/09/21 12:15 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Baby_Hitler] 2
#27536716 - 11/09/21 04:03 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I bought some HUT and BITF during the BTC dip a few months back. Up 100+% on the HUT8 and 50% on the BITF. I actually bought it before BTC crashed even further, my dad is up like 300% on his .
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#27537073 - 11/09/21 08:45 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you think Nvidia NVDA Isaac good stock to buy before earnings? It has gone up significantly recently. Cathie Woods sold out completely and NVDA is at an all time high.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: encryptor] 1
#27537080 - 11/09/21 08:51 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should never buy a stock before earnings, unless you're in it strictly to gamble.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 1
#27537134 - 11/09/21 09:52 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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AMD just did well though. NVDA has beat earnings consecutively. I'm not sure it would go up though even with good guidance at this 52 week high. I agree with you and will never do again. I got in at 320 and by end of day it's 300. Shitty I lost $ but I've always wanted NVDA.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 1
#27537407 - 11/10/21 06:17 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I’m thinking I should invest in
SCHP - Schwab U.S. TIPS ETF
in an effort to try to protect myself against inflation
I’m using Robinhood
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I thought when you bought a bond you have to agree on period that you will hold it or you have to accept a penalty when you sell. Is that the case with this? As a buyer would I be agreeing to hold it for at least one year?
The process of buying it seems as straightforward as any stock that you can sell whenever although I don’t know that for sure because I haven’t tried to buy it yet.
So again, my question is can I buy and sell this like my stocks or do I have to hold it and does Robinhood explain the terms when you buy or are you supposed to be educated enough to know that stuff?
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#27537485 - 11/10/21 07:30 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you want protection from inflation why not invest in crypto?
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu] 1
#27537500 - 11/10/21 07:43 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's up Enkidu? Didn't know you posted here..
My MNMD (MindMed psychedelic therapy research) made big gains for almost a week only to lose most of it yesterday. Hoping it bounces back today
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 2
#27537510 - 11/10/21 07:56 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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geokills said: You should never buy a stock before earnings, unless you're in it strictly to gamble.
COIN is a great example. I booked a 155% gain just yesterday on my January $250 calls. Today the stock reports earnings and the options I sold are down $30/contract (more than 25% from where I sold, which would have cut my 155% gain down to ~70%). This, despite the fact that Coinbase is a crypto exchange and crypto has been absolutely on fire. Had COIN not run up so much into the report, it may have made sense to hold on to half, but probably not on an options position that expires in a couple of months, only on longer dated contracts or common stock, which you can more easily hold through multiple earnings reports.
TLDR; trying to game a single earning’s report is a fool’s errand.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu] 1
#27537511 - 11/10/21 07:56 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: If you want protection from inflation why not invest in crypto?
There’s different ways to hedge against inflation ( re-reading that it sounds snarky but I’m just explaining my reasoning - I’m not assuming you think crypto is the only way or don’t realize there’s different strategies)
Many people consider crypto to be a good one.
However, I want to learn about Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities not because I’m interested in using it to the exclusion of other methods to achieve this goal but just as one potential investment strategy
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#27537516 - 11/10/21 08:00 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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…my question is can I buy and sell this like my stocks or do I have to hold it and does Robinhood explain the terms when you buy or are you supposed to be educated enough to know that stuff?
As an ETF, you can sell SCHP whenever you want. Bonds have a maturity term, but even if you own a bond you can still sell it before maturity, provided there is a market for someone else who wants to buy it. Of course, doing so may result in a loss of capital, regardless of how many interest payments you received.
Unless you’re already near or in retirement, I think you can do better than a TIPS fund. You may keep up with baseline inflation, and if you are already in retirement that may be a good idea. But if you have a ways to go, you’re just treading water and paying a high opportunity cost for marginal protection.
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheStallionMang] 1
#27537521 - 11/10/21 08:08 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheStallionMang said: What's up Enkidu? Didn't know you posted here..
My MNMD (MindMed psychedelic therapy research) made big gains for almost a week only to lose most of it yesterday. Hoping it bounces back today
Howdy
Haven't been trading a ton the last couple months or so, mainly been in crypto when I have.
Pretty bearish candle on the weekly chart for mnmd after what looks like an attempt to break out.
Could be developing a floor above $2 as support, would hope that would hold if it decides to retest that area
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills] 1
#27537531 - 11/10/21 08:19 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you
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Of course, doing so may result in a loss of capital, regardless of how many interest payments you received.
I don’t really know how it works so let me explain how I think it works
If I’ve received interest payments that means I still have what I bought plus the interest it’s earned so I don’t understand how I could lose capital. Is there a risk I’m not aware of?
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you’re just treading water and paying a high opportunity cost for marginal protection.
At first I imagined that it’s entirely tied to inflation with a guarantee- so if inflation went up 30% so would the bond. Then I read a bit more at seems like it’s like a mutual fund that’s spread out in commodities (feel free to correct my terms - my financial vocabulary is horrendous) that historically increase in value when inflation hits.
How does this really work and is the ETF from Schwab the same as buying a TIPS bond direct from the treasury?
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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 2
#27537562 - 11/10/21 08:43 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I’m on my mobile and on an exercise bike, so it’s a bit tricky to delve too deeply into research at the moment, and I don’t know off hand how the Schwab product is structured. Suffice it to say that if inflation “goes up 30%” does not mean “inflation is 30%”. Your TIPS will not rise at the rate of rise in inflation, they will merely track the baseline inflation rate. Inflation is generally targeted at 2% annually, so a 30% increase in inflation is still less than +1% in aggregate inflation gain. Generally speaking, you will probably do better with an inflation sensitive security that pays a dividend, such as CVX, an integrated oil company that yields 5% or so annually, and directly benefits from inflationary pressures since their infrastructure is mostly a sunk/realized cost at this point, and thus an increase in the price of their commodity (oil) will boost their margins.
On your question regarding bonds, if you’ve held your bond through multiple payments, you do get to keep those payments, but the price of the bond itself doesn’t remain static. You can buy a bond for $98 that yields 2%, but if interest rates rise, the price of the bond falls correspondingly (price of the bond moves inversely to yield), so if you sell before maturity, you will end up selling it for less than the $98 you paid when inflation was lower, and if you hold it to maturity, you’ll get your 2% interest, but you may still have lost purchasing power in aggregate since you locked in a low yield before yields subsequently rose higher.
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