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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #27112427 - 12/28/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Thinking about buying that baba now

Seems like it's leveling out there around 220

Gon a keep my eye on etsy too.

Thats a stock i can get behind.

Tremendous help for small business and people looking to grow a business which i respect.

And seems like it has decent potential as well


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu]
    #27112494 - 12/28/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Also looking at ocgn right now wondering if the graph is showing a soon to be breakout to a high.

Had it on the watchlist from seeing it tank down to like $1.60 or something and looks like it coulda been a decent buy for a short term gain

Need to get good at reading graphs...


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu]
    #27113515 - 12/29/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

What a wackdoodle year


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27113516 - 12/29/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Things like baba and etsy had alot of money move into them as a quasi shelter from the crash. Also etsy is a pretty good company its just idk how much they have to really grow from here. :shrug:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27113695 - 12/29/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

If you like those names, keep SHOP on your radar as well (we use them for our Swag.Haus).

Not crazy about the action today.  Exited all trading positions and have even taken out some short-term insurance via weekly UVXY $11 calls @ $0.25.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #27113797 - 12/29/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah I really like SHOP and also SQ


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    #27113816 - 12/29/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Also I think we talked a bout PLUG in the thread when she was at like $5 now its pushing like $35


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27113892 - 12/29/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Missed my better opportunity for baba

Think it will come back down?


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #27113954 - 12/29/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

UVXY calls up 80%, but I think we have more to go here.  Added, will be out by the end of the day.

BABA, looking pretty good but likely to hit resistance at the 8 day EMA, presently at $242.  If you are long, keep a stop below today's low of $229.  If the stock falls below there, you don't want to be long.


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    #27113977 - 12/29/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Sold to close all UVXY Weeklys for +75% on average.  Swapped funds in AMZN Jan $3300 calls.


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    #27113980 - 12/29/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah I was like its 1pm bro nice move tho


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27114286 - 12/29/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

:tarantino:

Smoke 'em if you got em. :tongue2::spliff:

When you get that type of return inside of a few hours (+160% on my first tranche, but averaged to +75% after the additional purchases on the way up), it's worth tightening up your stop something fierce.  Especially on a leveraged instrument like the UVXY, which I added even more leverage on by trading options.  Worked out well, but as I've learned the hard way, you have to be very quick and ruthlessly disciplined when trading this sort of thing.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #27114320 - 12/29/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

I didnt even buy.

I wanted it when it was at 220 or so and i missed it not realizing i didnt have funds for a whole stock.

So i think ill reanalyze things a bit.

Sucks being at work its hard to make a move during trading times

Baba looks like it would be geared to a long term haul for me

Was just hoping to capitalize on the low trend here lately


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu]
    #27114418 - 12/29/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

The 8 day ema, hoe did you find thst ?

I drew some trend lines and from my lines it looked like if it follows the 3 month downward trend it was looking like the current trajectory would hit around 245 and go back down.

I did predict the price would go up from where it was at 216/220 and was right and obviously wasnt the only one.

But it will be cool to see what happens and to get some ideas on how well i am predicting the moves

Hopefully not just getting lucky.

I guess the hard part is knowing when it will break the trend


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu]
    #27114436 - 12/29/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

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The 8 day ema, how did you find that?



You have to adjust your chart settings.  Almost any broker should provide the technical functionality for you to overlay moving averages and various other "studies" on your chart.  The 8 day EMA is an 8 period Exponential Moving Average, overlaid on a daily chart.  It is a useful moving average that often serves as support or resistance in most time frames, but especially the daily and 15 minute time frames.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #27114469 - 12/29/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Thanks man :hatsoff:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Enkidu]
    #27114771 - 12/29/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Just watched this video on EMA since i was confused as fuck.

Super fucking interesting.

They used 50 day ema to help predict down and up trends and breakthroughs.

Learning all this shit has been fun.

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    #27114816 - 12/29/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Sorry to blow this up with 3 comments

But ive been trying to study and learn and use the baba chart as my medium for trying to understand and predict.

So basically right now baba is on its upward trend.

From this point you could have bought or buy now even, and what we are looking for is to see what happens when our trend reaches the resistance level, which looks to be around 245.

At that point, you want to see if the trend breaks through or if it follows suit and falls back down.

Once you see what happens at that level, you either sell to avoid the fall, or you hold or buy more and ride the trend until it meets its new level of resistance.

Is that about right?

I guess from here now i would need to learn how to react and respond once it meets its new level, basically you just ride the new trend and / or buy the highs and lows on the way?

Im trying to learn a lot but i guess right now i want to see if im starting to grasp it and what is going on.

Its different when you can actually see it on the charts in a way you can start to predict it

So to add to that,

Do the different EMA trends help predict the length of thst change?

For example if you break the 5 day ema or the 20 day ema or the 50 day ema, is thst an indication of the general length of the new trend lasting that long? In theory or potential?


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    #27115053 - 12/29/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

The problem with BABA, is that it is a house of pain.  A stock like that has so many regretful holders, that there is built-in resistance for at least a few months going, regardless of where the price is.  That type of trade, is one you would've taken on the initial huge volume selloff (two trading sessions ago).  You would keep a stop at the low of that day, and hope for a reversion to the mean.  We are seeing that now... but it's not really a trade I generally like to take (except for maybe an intraday trade on the initial high volume selloff), because of that built in resistance I mentioned.  Reversion to the mean trade, sure.  But that's come and gone.

One thing you'll need to learn, if you want to actively trade successfully, is to remain fluid.  Don't get married to any given stock.  They're just tickers.  No matter what you might believe the company to be doing, or what it "should" be worth, the market will trade on its own metrics, emotions, and human psychology.  If I were you, I would forget about BABA.  It's reversion trade is nearly complete.  It'll likely more or less flounder for weeks to months.  Downside risk is a greater probability than upside potential.  China does not fuck around.  If they are going to go after BABA, it doesn't matter how good of a company they are, they'll be done.  Now maybe that doesn't happen, 'cause China wants to seem like a good hybrid-capitalist-socialist-democracy (or whatever)... bottom line, it's more of a gamble than a trade at this point.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #27115080 - 12/29/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 30 days ago)

Thank you Geo

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