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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: ManianFH]
    #26128909 - 08/09/19 06:29 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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have been paying attention to CGC since you had started mentioning it Geo - am wondering if there is a decent buy opportunity at its $31 pricepoint (considering you thought $38 was a good buypoint), or if you think there is a good reason its going down, and perhaps staying down. Did the drop trigger a stop for you?

I have $1000 left to invest this year and in a couple weeks will likely throw it at CGC.




I bought in at 32. Although a small position. I am watching this anxiously.

I also bought an energy ETF through vanguard.

I suspect market will go down, like AHAB, but i am still pretty heavily invested in my funds (which pay reasonable dividends). I am a young man, so rather than time the market, I am taking the old man approach - hedge a bit - and buy the funds when they are lower!


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #26137575 - 08/15/19 06:54 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Bought calls on CGC yesterday... Big oof moment. Didn't realize they had earnings coming up haha. Good way to lose ~65% of a position in no time.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #26137793 - 08/15/19 10:19 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Ouch.  Yeah, definitely need to keep an eye on that calendar.  Ouch anyway, CGC has bloodied me up pretty good this year.  I'm not even actively trading, figured I'd take a long term position but sheesh, this thing can't seem to get out of its way.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #26137895 - 08/16/19 12:14 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

would be feeling with you guys if I couldve saved up the G to put into it, am at least a month away still...

really though I have given up on trying to time anything. This is a set and forget for 10 years or more, so I dont care what the entry point is, just hoping for a good exit..


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #26141358 - 08/18/19 12:22 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Ouch.  Yeah, definitely need to keep an eye on that calendar.  Ouch anyway, CGC has bloodied me up pretty good this year.  I'm not even actively trading, figured I'd take a long term position but sheesh, this thing can't seem to get out of its way.




Yea... I figured it out before the market closed, but didn't really know what to expect so I decided to hold on through earnings instead of selling for a loss of just the commissions :shrug: . Figured it would be a big move up if it beat and didn't think the earnings would be back enough to drop it below $30. On the daily chart, it was just starting to break out of the downward trend, but that's what happens when you're not viewing the whole picture.

In other news, I traded FB puts pretty well even though I bought in early. I still have TGT calls that have been open for a while. Just opened a medium-small position in SQ as a longterm investment.


Looking for things to actively trade, but nothing is speaking to me at the moment


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #26141579 - 08/18/19 02:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

This market is very whippy, which generally makes it very difficult to consistently make money, unless you are specialized in day trading and apply extremely diligent discipline in cutting losers quickly and taking profits when they turn up.  "Easier said than done" would be an understatement!


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #26155274 - 08/27/19 12:44 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

CGC continues to fall... I am wondering when it will stop, or if it is an indicator that this particular organization is not going to succeed.

"Canopy Growth stock slid 1.6% in the stock market today. The stock's Composite Rating is a 5, out of a best 99, among the lowest possible. As Canopy loses money, its EPS Rating, a reflection of profit growth, is 1, the worst possible. IBD recommends investors focus on stocks with Composite Ratings in the 90s."

https://www.investors.com/news/marijuana-stocks-canopy-growth-stock-constellation-loss/


I dont know what the above means - composite rating, but does that mean stay away? Otherise I am still looking at this as a buy opportunity as it continues to fall.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: ManianFH]
    #26156031 - 08/27/19 07:39 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I have no idea when it is going to bottom out. If you are looking for a "safe" investment...I would not park money here. Or more money until you catch a bottom. Unless you just want to...

Invest in "name-brand" / "big companies" or a fund if you don't want to play the game. I think the whole market will come down so you might just save some cash and look for deals.

If you want a technical analysis - hopefully Geokills or someone else will show up!


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #26156036 - 08/27/19 07:42 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I did buy some more CGC at 25ish, but as hinted at above, I may come to "regret" it. They seem to have a good market in Canada. All these green stocks are a bit of a gamble until the market consolidates and "winners" and "losers" are picked.

I should have sold my MO stock this morning, but I was too late. Could have made a nice quick return.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #26157279 - 08/28/19 02:39 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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If you want a technical analysis - hopefully Geokills or someone else will show up!



The technical picture on CGC is, at its very best, range bound between $23-$50.  Which, needless to say, is a huge range, and not very useful analysis.  The stock is broken and should only be bought if you are building up a long term position incrementally.  The most important catalysts for CGC are going to be fundamental; getting a more experienced management team on board in conjunction with continued legalization around the globe, particularly in the US.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #26157956 - 08/28/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

You the man. Happy trading brother.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #26160166 - 08/30/19 01:56 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you Geo.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: ManianFH]
    #26196417 - 09/18/19 08:04 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys. I love this community (and probably am net positive following Geo's trades), but there isn't a whole lot of activity in this thread (which is really the only thread I follow these days).

So, in an effort to promote posting, I've been doing a little weekly "newsletter" for some friends and want to see if y'all would find it beneficial. Here is a link to the .pdf (open to suggestions on a better way to share):

http://www.filedropper.com/weekof91519_1

I know it is a bit dated as I wrote this on Sunday, but would anyone find this type of document beneficial on a weekly basis? It would be pretty easy for me to upload it here after I email it to my buddies.

Note that I just started this a few weeks ago and am not sure how long it'll last since my friends basically provide no feedback, but I think it helps with my own trading.

:cheers:


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #26197193 - 09/19/19 10:30 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Bambi, thanks for sharing your newsletter.  I think that's awesome that you're tracking your expectations and trades.  Truly, that's the only way anyone will reliably improve in their trading, and it's so easy to simply NOT do it, and ultimately repeat the mistakes we've made so many times in the past without holding ourselves accountable for them.

With a 2.5 year old on my hands and the market just swinging around what appears to be a topping process (but who really knows until it ultimately resolves), I haven't had the time necessary to trade in this environment, hence why I haven't been posting.  I did enjoy reading your analysis however, and it appears that you have a decent handle on the market dynamics... keep it up!

To note, you can upload your PDF as an attachment to your post and we will host it here if you like.  If nothing else, that will allow you to see how many people are downloading it from here.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Bambi]
    #26197972 - 09/19/19 05:47 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I would like to read it but downloading it is, eh. Ya dig?


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #26198617 - 09/20/19 02:33 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

My left big toe is hurting in a way that suggests a major global financial meltdown is imminent, possibly by year's end.

Anybody else getting this?


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26199757 - 09/20/19 05:00 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

my butthole itches which invariably suggests a downturn


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #26199905 - 09/20/19 06:23 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

There are lots of good reasons to be pessimistic.


Gold is reaching all time highs in most currencies (except the USD). The US yield curve is flat to inverted. There are global trade tensions, a slowing Chinese economy that is focusing in domestic consumption, the Fed just bailed out the Repo market this week ahead of it's rate cut effectively starting a round of quantitative easing while simultaneously failing to meet it's own target range, Europe has begun more QE and a quarter of all bonds in the world are paying negative interest.


Most importantly is that central banks around the world don't have room to cut and QE isn't going to have the intended effects. Financing has distorted so many markets that everyone has rushed to IPO despite the fact that they don't make money. Zero rates means companies don't need to make profits to stay afloat for years. It's lunacy. Uber lost $5billion last quarter, while Altria group made $2billion. Both companies are valued at $50 billion. There is something to say about growth rates, economic moats and intangible liabilities, but it's still crazy.

The negative bond bubble has to end badly and there is a ton of mis-priced risk in the system because being profitable isn't important anymore.

Edit* Companies like Sears are still staying afloat because of mis-priced interest rates.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: geokills]
    #26202398 - 09/22/19 08:18 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey geo and others, what is your prediction on the performance of mutual funds that go for a lot of dividend income, if a recession hits? I'm about to get hired on with a 401k and I figure matching funds are always a good idea, even in uncertain times. I was thinking maybe an income fund would be better than an index fund (S&P 500 or total stock market), for right now. My time frame is not short, but not as long as most others. I'm 62.


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Re: STOCKS - An Intro Tutorial & Ongoing Discussion [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26202566 - 09/22/19 10:18 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)
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Hey guys. This week's "newletter" is pretty soft. I have a handful of open positions and nothing new was [confidently] calling to me this weekend. I've attached it to this post, so maybe that makes it more appealing to view? This will be my first post like that, so we will see if is still needs to be downloaded or not.

@Geo, thanks for the positive feedback! I totally agree that tracking yourself helps - I've had a journal in the past. And I'm glad to hear that I don't sound completely insane in my analysis, I've been in and out of the market for over 8 years now so I'm glad I've learned something. And thanks for being a resource to me over this time frame! Good luck with your little one, I've heard how they can be a handful. Hopefully things will calm down and you'll be able to come back before too terribly long - I have always appreciated your insight.

With regards to being pessimistic about the global economy, I feel a lot of those same feelings, but if you're trading, you have to position yourself based on market actions and not your own perception of the economy. Since I've followed this thread (~8 years) there have always been people here who say a market downturn is imminent and to buy silver/gold. Yet, the market has essentially just gone up throughout those years. Just be mindful not to let your own viewpoint conflict too heavily with the market-movers' viewpoints, ya know?

@Brian Jones, at your age, I would consider a safer portfolio positioning, like possibly 40% : 60% bonds to stocks. I can't really attest to the performance of an income fund vs a total maket fund. What is your time horizon for your investments? In a market that has kept going up and up for so long, I would be hesitant to invest 100% in stocks.


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