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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #11340263 - 10/28/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Seeker_22]
    #11352347 - 10/30/09 02:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Great Book! Helped me alot.


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Bugs]
    #11352884 - 10/30/09 04:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for bringing this book to my attention! After downloading and perusing it, I'm off to the bookstore. =)


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11352897 - 10/30/09 04:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm not sure about this book, I don't agree with some of his beliefs. Worth looking into though.




"Some of his beliefs"?

Which do you agree and disagree with?




Well he considers "coming down" from the psychedelic state a problem and the main one regarding tripping. He didn't try to apply anything he had learned from those psychedelic states to the normal sobriety, instead he wished he was able to never come down. He just wished the trip could last forever, which I definitely disagree with, the psychedelic mind state is a vulnerable but amazing one - certainly not one I want to be in 24/7.




You are very confused and have deeply misinterpreted what he was saying.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: pfxtc]
    #11353009 - 10/30/09 04:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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pfxtc said:
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TheMerryGangster said:
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monkeybus said:
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TheMerryGangster said:
I'm not sure about this book, I don't agree with some of his beliefs. Worth looking into though.




"Some of his beliefs"?

Which do you agree and disagree with?




Well he considers "coming down" from the psychedelic state a problem and the main one regarding tripping. He didn't try to apply anything he had learned from those psychedelic states to the normal sobriety, instead he wished he was able to never come down. He just wished the trip could last forever, which I definitely disagree with, the psychedelic mind state is a vulnerable but amazing one - certainly not one I want to be in 24/7.




You are very confused and have deeply misinterpreted what he was saying.




No I'm not; what happened is you said a statement and didn't leave any valuable input after the fact. Tell me where I went wrong? I know for a fact he discusses that exact thought process in the book.

There is even a story of him and some others dosing in a house for an extended period of time, and he was disappointed to find after eating so many doses and for so long that he still returned to the previous state of mind once he came down.


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. *DELETED* [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11354159 - 10/30/09 07:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Causality]
    #11354178 - 10/30/09 07:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

you should also read "seed" it's also a must read.
I met ram daas at the national rainbow gathering a couple years back in modoc, he hugged me and i swear you could feel the energy just surrounding the man.  He also signed a rainbow family card i have with a pic of timothy leary on it.  incredible man


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Harold Hole]
    #11354204 - 10/30/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Causality]
    #11354258 - 10/30/09 07:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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No I'm not; what happened is you said a statement and didn't leave any valuable input after the fact. Tell me where I went wrong? I know for a fact he discusses that exact thought process in the book.

There is even a story of him and some others dosing in a house for an extended period of time, and he was disappointed to find after eating so many doses and for so long that he still returned to the previous state of mind once he came down.




The story is correct, but slightly taken out of context. Before he found spirituality in india, he was constantly in a position of trying to push away the low of what he perceived as normal consciousness for the high of the LSD experience. This is just a story to set the background of the book -- the story is found in the introduction of Be Here Now. Be Here Now is all about how he got beyond that mentality, not how he dwelled in it.

On a side note, it sounds like you only read part of the introduction and put it down. suggest getting a hard copy and reading it through; reserve judgement until after you've read it from cover to cover please.




This is exactly what I meant to say.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: pfxtc]
    #11356621 - 10/31/09 10:01 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

My friend and fellow shroomerite is reading it right now. I ordered it a while back, and I'm so glad I did. It's blowing his mind :smile2:


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Lancaster]
    #11356624 - 10/31/09 10:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Great book..Its always been a great help on whatever journey im fuckin on right now in life!


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. *DELETED* [Re: Sadhguru]
    #11360153 - 10/31/09 09:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Causality]
    #11360701 - 11/01/09 01:12 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

my fav


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Causality]
    #11363278 - 11/01/09 03:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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No I'm not; what happened is you said a statement and didn't leave any valuable input after the fact. Tell me where I went wrong? I know for a fact he discusses that exact thought process in the book.

There is even a story of him and some others dosing in a house for an extended period of time, and he was disappointed to find after eating so many doses and for so long that he still returned to the previous state of mind once he came down.




The story is correct, but slightly taken out of context. Before he found spirituality in india, he was constantly in a position of trying to push away the low of what he perceived as normal consciousness for the high of the LSD experience. This is just a story to set the background of the book -- the story is found in the introduction of Be Here Now. Be Here Now is all about how he got beyond that mentality, not how he dwelled in it.

On a side note, it sounds like you only read part of the introduction and put it down. suggest getting a hard copy and reading it through; reserve judgement until after you've read it from cover to cover please.




This is probably true, I remember reading into his travels as well but this was years ago. The introduction probably threw my interest off.


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11364338 - 11/01/09 06:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

one weird book. thought it was strange as it was listed on the cover for $6.66 (price). I could read this book sober and it was like having a mild trip in itsself.... I need another copy.


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: TaterCaboose]
    #11364797 - 11/01/09 07:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

This book helped me out on my first 1/8th trip of mushrooms. Damn that was a crazy trip, but this book seriously brought me back to relative sanity. It made me understand when understanding was pretty much out of the question.


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: tempingasashaman]
    #11364899 - 11/01/09 07:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What's with the symbols throughout the book? The All Seeing Eye?


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11365760 - 11/01/09 09:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like the middle section of the book is made up of all those little realizations and truths you have while tripping, but you forget afterwards. Because Ram Dass tripped thousands of times, he was eventually able to remember and write down the revelations. It's such a great resource for anyone that wants to figure things out or have a spiritual trip.


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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: Lancaster]
    #11366112 - 11/01/09 10:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I feel like the middle section of the book is made up of all those little realizations and truths you have while tripping, but you forget afterwards. Because Ram Dass tripped thousands of times, he was eventually able to remember and write down the revelations. It's such a great resource for anyone that wants to figure things out or have a spiritual trip.




True spirituality is found within. The answers MUST be found by ourselves for them to hold meaning; nothing teaches us like experience. And I never forget any of those revelations or realizations from my trips, I forget to apply them, which is something that can be worked through with ease. A spiritual person and intellectual mind can find all the answers Ram Dass has, and more. It has to ring true for your personal life path and situation, yes I believe there are universal truths, but they won't truly impact someone from simply reading a book/being spoon fed spiritual wisdom. There is no single rule for everyone. We must "figure things out" through our experiences in life (mistakes, successes, failures, emotional fluctuation), if someone is open to the idea, you can really transform all the negative out of your life.


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"When you realize how perfect everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky." -Buddha.

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Re: Ram Dass - Be Here Now. [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #11366220 - 11/01/09 10:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Lancaster said:
I feel like the middle section of the book is made up of all those little realizations and truths you have while tripping, but you forget afterwards. Because Ram Dass tripped thousands of times, he was eventually able to remember and write down the revelations. It's such a great resource for anyone that wants to figure things out or have a spiritual trip.




True spirituality is found within. The answers MUST be found by ourselves for them to hold meaning; nothing teaches us like experience. And I never forget any of those revelations or realizations from my trips, I forget to apply them, which is something that can be worked through with ease. A spiritual person and intellectual mind can find all the answers Ram Dass has, and more. It has to ring true for your personal life path and situation, yes I believe there are universal truths, but they won't truly impact someone from simply reading a book/being spoon fed spiritual wisdom. There is no single rule for everyone. We must "figure things out" through our experiences in life (mistakes, successes, failures, emotional fluctuation), if someone is open to the idea, you can really transform all the negative out of your life.



If you have read the book, you know the importance of a guru; a wise, more experienced person who shows you the path to enlightenment. I said that Dass' book is a resource, not that you should read it instead of experiencing things for yourself. :rolleyes:


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