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im_on_a_boat
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Absinthe Legal Now?
#7826208 - 01/03/08 01:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok I am not making this up.
On my local news at 10 they said that Absinthe is now legal and it is available 'at local liquor stores' and encouraged viewers to go buy some.
I was watchin this with my mom and I was cracking up. One of the news reporters even drank some of it. They showed them pouring it over a sugar cube and everything.
They went on to explain that, whatever the active psychedelic in the wormwood was negligible and it is legal for sale now.
I dont know if this is a recent thing or what and I search a little bit, but has anyone else heard of this and what do you make of it?
How crazy that shit is to see on the news.
http://www.kcentv.com/
that's my news channel!
http://drinklucid.com/
this is the shit they were showing people drinking!
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sui
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yup, once they realized that it was just basically alcohol they legalized it.
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There is like some crappy shit legal. Not real 'van gogh' absinthe at all.
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Yeah it's legal here in australia, has been all along I think. Trust me there's nothing significantly active other than the alcohol, I don't knwo what the big deal is! (other than being 70% ~~)
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: g00ru]
#7826219 - 01/03/08 01:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well they even mentioned it in the news cast that it's the same stuff that van gogh had and he musta be on some other shit (they euphemised it a little more).
that lucid shit is like 60 dollars a bottle.
i'm just suprised as hell that this made my local evening news more than anything..
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone Thujone Pharmacology
For many years thujone was thought to act on the cannabinoid receptors similar to THC based on studies that only looked at the molecules' shapes.[1] This is known to be false today and studies show thujone does not activate these receptors[2]. Thujone is a GABAA receptor antagonist. By inhibiting GABA receptor activation neurons may fire more easily which can cause muscle spasms and convulsions.[3]
A toxicology study of alpha-thujone, the more active of the two isomers, in mice found the median lethal dose, or LD50, is around 45 mg/kg, with 0% mortality rate at 30 mg/kg and 100% at 60 mg/kg. Those exposed to the higher dose had convulsions that led to death in 1 minute. From 30 to 45 mg/kg the mice would experience muscle spasms in the legs which progressed to general convulsions until death or recovery. Pretreatment of diazepam, phenobarbital or 1 g/kg of ethanol protected against a lethal 100 mg/kg dose. These findings are in line with other GABA antagonists. This study also found alpha-thujone was quickly metabolized in the mouse's liver.[3]
The LD50 dose in humans is not known; however a study in the "Journal of Studies of alcohol" tested attention performance with low, and high doses of thujone in alcohol. The researchers administered 0.28 mg/kg thujone in alcohol, 0.028 mg/kg in alcohol and just alcohol to their subjects. The high dose had a short term negative effect on attention performance. The lower dose showed no noticeable effect.[4]
There is no evidence any size dose will cause hallucinations, however thujone is reported to produce some psychoactive effects when dried wormwood, or extracts of the wormwood plant are smoked, but these effects are not hallucinogenic in nature and are quite different from the effects of drinking absinthe.[1][2] Thujone is reported to be toxic to both brain and liver cells and could cause convulsions if used in too high a dose. Other thujone-containing plants such as the tree Arbor vitae (Thuja occidentalis) are used in herbal medicine, mainly for their immune-system stimulating effects, however side effects from the essential oil of this plant include anxiety and sleeplessness, confirming the central nervous system effects of thujone.[5]
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: sui]
#7826380 - 01/03/08 03:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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what ive heard and read on here, this "legal" stuff is legal because they took the good stuff out of it. something along those lines.
and alot more than just wormwood went into the good drink back in the day, including heavy metals
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7826617 - 01/03/08 08:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i feel like i *read somewhere the good stuff made your hair fall out (i guess if it had heavy metals in it.) and even made you stupid , supposedly eats holes in your brain and made you dull/crazy depending on where the holes were in the brain. even if some of that is true, not interested. OoD
*please note : I "read stuff" all the time that does not exist.
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drkrobotnik said: well they even mentioned it in the news cast that it's the same stuff that van gogh had and he musta be on some other shit (they euphemised it a little more).
that lucid shit is like 60 dollars a bottle.
i'm just suprised as hell that this made my local evening news more than anything..
I was seeing shit going for no less than $100 on one website that offered the traditional Absinthe.
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Most of the stuff sold as absinthe is utter crap, and worse still most of it isn't even a real absinthe at all. It's like buying a bar of chocolate and finding gum inside - something completely different and often gross, presented under the false flag of being an Absinthe.
Here is a post I made some time ago that doesn't just show the best ten houses and 20 absinthes to buy, but also describes how to properly prepare your glass of absinthe in words and an attached video:
Which Absinthes to buy and how to prepare it
Absinthe is expensive, usually around $1-$5 per glass. It's something to drink a glass a day of, or less. If you want to get hammered, other booze is far more suitable for that - less pricy, less rich flavor and less of a hangover if taken to excess.
As to absinthes effects: you get a bit more drunk with a bit clearer head compared to regular booze. That is all. If you want to hallucinate, take LSD. Absinthe is all about flavor, ritual and moderation.
Want to distill your own quality Absinthe in your kitchen? Yes you can
Traditional Absinthe -- Absinthe d'Pontarlier Spanish Absenta -- Absenta Verde
and how to assemble a Wok Still in your kitchen from common pots and pans - with no modification required:
The Wok Still - distilling without having to build or buy a still unit
producing gallons of alcohol in your home in mere days at a price of approx $1 per liter of vodka strength.
Fermenting your own Alcohol with Turbo Yeast
DutchMushroom's pictorial on how to start with sugar and a pressurecooker and ending up with homemade 95%/190 proof everclear:
DutchMushroom's distillation pictorial
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Edited by Asante (01/03/08 12:31 PM)
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: Asante]
#7827190 - 01/03/08 12:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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this guy knows what he's talking about.
hells yeah. thank you for that informational post.
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7827224 - 01/03/08 12:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: what ive heard and read on here, this "legal" stuff is legal because they took the good stuff out of it. something along those lines.
and alot more than just wormwood went into the good drink back in the day, including heavy metals
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suimush said:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone Thujone Pharmacology
For many years thujone was thought to act on the cannabinoid receptors similar to THC based on studies that only looked at the molecules' shapes.[1] This is known to be false today and studies show thujone does not activate these receptors[2]. Thujone is a GABAA receptor antagonist. By inhibiting GABA receptor activation neurons may fire more easily which can cause muscle spasms and convulsions.[3]
A toxicology study of alpha-thujone, the more active of the two isomers, in mice found the median lethal dose, or LD50, is around 45 mg/kg, with 0% mortality rate at 30 mg/kg and 100% at 60 mg/kg. Those exposed to the higher dose had convulsions that led to death in 1 minute. From 30 to 45 mg/kg the mice would experience muscle spasms in the legs which progressed to general convulsions until death or recovery. Pretreatment of diazepam, phenobarbital or 1 g/kg of ethanol protected against a lethal 100 mg/kg dose. These findings are in line with other GABA antagonists. This study also found alpha-thujone was quickly metabolized in the mouse's liver.[3]
The LD50 dose in humans is not known; however a study in the "Journal of Studies of alcohol" tested attention performance with low, and high doses of thujone in alcohol. The researchers administered 0.28 mg/kg thujone in alcohol, 0.028 mg/kg in alcohol and just alcohol to their subjects. The high dose had a short term negative effect on attention performance. The lower dose showed no noticeable effect.[4]
There is no evidence any size dose will cause hallucinations, however thujone is reported to produce some psychoactive effects when dried wormwood, or extracts of the wormwood plant are smoked, but these effects are not hallucinogenic in nature and are quite different from the effects of drinking absinthe.[1][2] Thujone is reported to be toxic to both brain and liver cells and could cause convulsions if used in too high a dose. Other thujone-containing plants such as the tree Arbor vitae (Thuja occidentalis) are used in herbal medicine, mainly for their immune-system stimulating effects, however side effects from the essential oil of this plant include anxiety and sleeplessness, confirming the central nervous system effects of thujone.[5]
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Where is this legal? in Holland?
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: Skunk420]
#7827239 - 01/03/08 12:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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its now legal in the USA.
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: sui]
#7827268 - 01/03/08 12:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ill look for it at the local liquor store, the next time i go, it will be tomorrow in fact, i have the day off on saturday too, I had to work at 6 am on new years day..so I am getting more wasted now..whoot!
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: Skunk420]
#7827284 - 01/03/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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not to plug or advertise for a brand but i've read that the only legal one they have is called 'lucid' and it's like $60 for a liter bottle. which, compared to the other absinthe, seems pretty cheap.
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i still dont believe it
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: Skunk420]
#7827340 - 01/03/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen a few bottles labed as "absinthe" containing a greenish liquid in my local liquor store. I have no interest in purchasing any, as its probably more of a s gimmick using the name & legend of absinthe to sell a liquor that just *barely* qualifies to be called absinthe on account of its ingredients.
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
#7827355 - 01/03/08 12:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ill never buy it because, i bet i wouldnt notice anything exept for the alcohol drunk.
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Re: Absinthe Legal Now? [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
#7827369 - 01/03/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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the only time I ever tried absinthe was when my buddy got 7 different Czech brands and we dove into the two most expensive ones. You get drunk, but it is its own drunk. Just like tequila, whiskey and vodka have their own drunks. Hallucinations... no.
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