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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7828799 - 01/03/08 06:46 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Yes and my sober self would never do that is what my point is.


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: thoughts]
    #7828888 - 01/03/08 06:57 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

You should accept the shame for your behavior not try to shift the blame to weed or anything else.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7829039 - 01/03/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7829830 - 01/03/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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dot gov says it all

A little horse sense and experience is all you need to know that it's not addictive.




you seem ignorant to me

that site catalogs studies

here is the facility information:

Behavioral Psychopharmacology Research Laboratory, McLean Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Belmont, Massachusetts 02478, USA. elena_kouri@hms.harvard.edu


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: johnm214]
    #7830430 - 01/04/08 12:30 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

lol muppet, at first i thought you were making fun of dxm, until i noticed the line about worlds beneath the world

i used to go beneath the world looking up into it... very weird. right below it i often went to a place that looked like computer circuitry or something like that.

below that, complete emptiness.

but yeah i can see how dxm would help you get over an addiction. it really releases you from all the nags of the body.


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7830604 - 01/04/08 01:54 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Seems to me you're being pedantic. Nobody here claimed weed was as addictive as heroin.

There are barely any physical withdrawals from nicotine. I have smoked tobacco and marijuana for about 5 years and of the two, personally I find weed much harder to kick. Tobacco is nasty tasting, and doesn't do anything besides fill the tobacco void. Weed tastes great and makes you feel great, and for me it is more addicting, even if only psychologically (although as already mentioned, there can be minor physical symptoms). When you have been stoned every day for years try stopping and tell me you feel completely normal and don't crave a bong.

I wouldn't do anything bad to get weed. Compared to hard stuff yes, it is a minor addiction. What part of this do you completely fail to understand? Perhaps once again you fail to recognise a distinction between addiction and dependence.


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: sam420]
    #7830755 - 01/04/08 05:14 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

There's no addiction without physical dependence. I don't care how many mumbo-jumbo jargon filled studies you quote.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7830774 - 01/04/08 05:25 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

> There's no addiction without physical dependence.

Unfortunately, the term "addition" has multiple meanings depending upon the context and the listener. Generally, I see the word as you do, to mean a physical dependence upon an "external" chemical. Heroin would be a good example of something that is addictive while methamphetamine would be a good example of something that is not addictive. However, a lot of people use the word "addiction" as a synonym for "habit forming". In this context, both heroin and methamphetamine are addictive.


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7830783 - 01/04/08 05:32 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

I didn't quote any.

I'm not going to argue dictionary terms with you. Perhaps 'habit-forming' would be a better term. In my view even 'shopping is addictive' is a legitimate statement. Do you have a point or are you just some kind of word-warrior / troll?


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: sam420]
    #7830802 - 01/04/08 05:53 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

My point is marijuana is not addictive. It's important to me because I don't like it when marijuana gets an unfair bad rap. I read that more people are in drug rehab for marijuana than any other drug. Judges and bosses are sending people to rehab to be cured of their 'addictions' to marijuana. High school kids truly believe they're addicted to it. Even fucking people on the Shroomery are buying into it. OK sure it depends on how you define the word 'addictive' but for fuck's sake don't allow them to turn your words against you to exploit people and make more money for the anti-marijuana political extremists who imprison and brainwash people with 'reefer madness' type of hysteria. Drug addiction is a serious health concern and MARIJUANA IS NOT ADDICTIVE. And every time someone says it is they're playing right into the hands of the political right. Use some fucking savvy. This guy saying 'I stole from my family to buy weed.' sounds like some shit MTV would put on the air to brainwash kids. Why the fuck would anyone want to make marijuana sound like a dangerous drug when it is in fact totally harmless and actually good for you?


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7835358 - 01/05/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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Then you're the type who would steal from his family to buy cds or any other thing you desire.

I've watched junkies die. I watched a friend lie convulsing on a couch with a stain on the backside of his jeans where some kind of mucus/shit was leaking from his anus. That's withdrawal from an addictive drug. Wishing you had a cool buzz isn't an addiction it's just wishing you had something you didn't. The anti-drug propagandists have been trying to sell the idea that marijuana is addictive for ages. I just can't believe it's caught on.




I can say with 100% certainty that I'm addicted to Marijuana. Are you calling ME a liar?

Just because something isn't PHYSICALLY addictive doesn't mean that it's not addictive. Cocaine and Meth aren't physically addictive. Are you saying THEY aren't addictive either?


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7835360 - 01/05/08 12:33 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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fact totally harmless and actually good for you?




Emphazema is harmless?


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: BrAiN]
    #7835382 - 01/05/08 12:37 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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Then you're the type who would steal from his family to buy cds or any other thing you desire.

I've watched junkies die. I watched a friend lie convulsing on a couch with a stain on the backside of his jeans where some kind of mucus/shit was leaking from his anus. That's withdrawal from an addictive drug. Wishing you had a cool buzz isn't an addiction it's just wishing you had something you didn't. The anti-drug propagandists have been trying to sell the idea that marijuana is addictive for ages. I just can't believe it's caught on.




I can say with 100% certainty that I'm addicted to Marijuana. Are you calling ME a liar?

Just because something isn't PHYSICALLY addictive doesn't mean that it's not addictive. Cocaine and Meth aren't physically addictive. Are you saying THEY aren't addictive either?




I'm calling you someone who bought into the bullshit and for some reason you want to believe you have some kind of serious drug problem. Maybe it seems romantic to you. People suck cock for coke and meth so they're really addictive.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: BrAiN]
    #7835393 - 01/05/08 12:39 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

Pot doesn't cause emphysema.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7835628 - 01/05/08 01:30 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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Pot doesn't cause emphysema.




You're right.. your lungs love having smoke in them. in fact... smoking pot makes your lungs work BETTER. Scientists have recently completed studies that show pot smoke causes happy pictures of lemondrops and sunshine to appear on users' lungs.


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #7835635 - 01/05/08 01:31 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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Then you're the type who would steal from his family to buy cds or any other thing you desire.

I've watched junkies die. I watched a friend lie convulsing on a couch with a stain on the backside of his jeans where some kind of mucus/shit was leaking from his anus. That's withdrawal from an addictive drug. Wishing you had a cool buzz isn't an addiction it's just wishing you had something you didn't. The anti-drug propagandists have been trying to sell the idea that marijuana is addictive for ages. I just can't believe it's caught on.




I can say with 100% certainty that I'm addicted to Marijuana. Are you calling ME a liar?

Just because something isn't PHYSICALLY addictive doesn't mean that it's not addictive. Cocaine and Meth aren't physically addictive. Are you saying THEY aren't addictive either?




I'm calling you someone who bought into the bullshit and for some reason you want to believe you have some kind of serious drug problem. Maybe it seems romantic to you. People suck cock for coke and meth so they're really addictive.




Whoever said I had a SERIOUS drug problem? Or a problem at all? I'm not calling it a problem. I'm just staying I'm addicted. When I constantly crave it.. are you saying that the government has TRICKED me into thinking I crave it?

I don't think there's anything romantic about it. You must think I'm some 18 year old dorky goth that wears marilyn manson tshirts. For someone who tries to act very intelligent, you sure make a lot of generalizations about people you haven't met.

You also admit coke and meth are addictive, but they're technically not physically addictive. You just said that physical addictions can only be real addictions... you just contradicted yourself hardcore and proved that you don't know what in God's name you're talking about.

Do the shroomery a favor and get off your high horse.


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: BrAiN]
    #7835662 - 01/05/08 01:38 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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You also admit coke and meth are addictive, but they're technically not physically addictive. You just said that physical addictions can only be real addictions... you just contradicted yourself hardcore and proved that you don't know what in God's name you're talking about.

Do the shroomery a favor and get off your high horse.



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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: Muppet]
    #7835667 - 01/05/08 01:39 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

this whole dispute has become nothing but asinine wordplay anyway  :lol:


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: Muppet]
    #7835693 - 01/05/08 01:47 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

i wanna get high.:cool:


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Re: DXM, and pot addiction. [Re: Muppet]
    #7835983 - 01/05/08 03:06 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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this whole dispute has become nothing but asinine wordplay anyway  :lol:




well if your gonna discuss a topic, its nice to understand each other...

giant mushroom avatar guy just uses his own definitions of words as convieniant, cuz it makes him feel better to say shit like "marijuana isn't addictive".

I've allready provided evidence that marijuana does cause abstinence symptoms, and that addiction doesn't depend on these anyways as per current understanding of that word.

But he seems to think the lack of an observation (marijuana hasn't caused emphysema that can be demonstrated) is proof the phenomena can't occur (therefore marijuana doesn't cause emphysema).


Seems like an ignoramus to me, but whatever.

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