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In regards to what people think about Ron Paul
    #7824462 - 01/02/08 05:22 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

I hear some people say that he'll never be elected, So I ask you why?


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: navyseals101]
    #7824485 - 01/02/08 05:31 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

because he represents change and nobody wants change.. either that or they are scared of it.

i'm gonna vote for him.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: navyseals101]
    #7824508 - 01/02/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

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I hear some people say that he'll never be elected, So I ask you why?




Because to many consider him a joke. Now i ask you, do you think a different president will really help america?


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: navyseals101]
    #7824735 - 01/02/08 06:28 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

> So I ask you why?

Because Uncle Rupert told me that Giuliani is going to be the next president.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: Seuss]
    #7824776 - 01/02/08 06:35 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

good thing drooliani is polling down around Paul lately...


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: navyseals101]
    #7825062 - 01/02/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

People are afraid of whatever it is they do not have control over. Ron Paul can not be bought, hence, he can't be controlled, hence, the media is telling voters to be afraid of him.

Not working on me though. Politicians that can be bought and sold, while selling us out to special interest groups, scare me.

Just today on CNN some ditz told people in Iowa to vote for who they think will win in Nov.:crazy:

Whatever happened to voting for who you want to win and think should win. Big difference and it's a no wonder why we keep getting idiots elected into the WH.

I want Paul in and I am voting for him in my states primary. If he doesn't get the Republican nod in Sept, I am writing him in, in November anyway.

Check it.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq90G8OjXYI :thumbup:


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7825146 - 01/02/08 08:06 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

http://www.pr-usa.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=55684&Itemid=9

Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul has released a new television advertisement on the topic of immigration that will run in Iowa and New Hampshire.

“This advertisement makes it clear that as president Dr. Paul would oppose amnesty, secure the border, end birthright citizenship, end welfare to illegal aliens, and restore the rule of law,” said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

The ad can be viewed here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4

Views like this is why the Media is trying to bury him.....


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: navyseals101]
    #7826404 - 01/03/08 03:24 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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I hear some people say that he'll never be elected, So I ask you why?




Because their only manner of gauging what will happen is through a traditional, status-quo media, as well as its resultant influence. Thus, Ron Paul does not register to them because the media's means of obtaining information, such as with polls, are ineffective, coupled with their slant agansit a candidate such as Ron Paul in the first place.

Now that the media is forced to acknowledge his inevitable success, these people will start to see, as well, that he certainly can be elected, and that he just might. :tongue:


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: navyseals101]
    #7826637 - 01/03/08 08:29 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

They want us to believe he can't be elected because the neo-cons, the bankers and the media doorkeepers are scared to death of what he stands for. Not to mention the israeli lobby wants to keep their money flow coming from our tax dollars that they in no way deserve.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: navyseals101]
    #7826718 - 01/03/08 09:14 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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I hear some people say that he'll never be elected, So I ask you why?




Because he will receive insufficient votes to be put on the republican ticket, and if he runs as an independent he will be clobberred. It is only in the realm of the internet that Paul has considerable support. On the ground in individual states there isn't nearly enough. The unbridled optimism and enthusiasm of a minority of people is not strong enough to conquer the masses' apathetic submission to the entrenched two party system. That's democracy for you.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7826836 - 01/03/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

One thing that cracks me up about the Ron Paul doubters is they say he only has "internet" support. What is the internet made up of? Are his supporters pixels now? Well let me clue you folks in: We are real people from all walks of life. People support Ron Paul. The internet is just a means of communication between people.

It has been soundly proven that the old polling system ranges anywhere from ineffective to rigged. To say that land-line phone polling voters from 2006 to get a realistic supporter percentage in this election as an accurate representation is laughable. Then you factor in things like cell phones, people fed up with the current state of affairs in numbers like never before the picture changes.

Now lets consider diebold voting machines which have been shown to have back door access to those with clearance. Diebold is a company who has greatly benefited from the bush admin and donated heavily to the 2004 election. Combine that with considerable claims of fraud from 2000 and 2004 we have serious reasons for doubting the authenticity of anything said in our media concerning elections.

THAT is american democracy for you.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #7826961 - 01/03/08 10:30 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

> One thing that cracks me up about the Ron Paul doubters is they say he only has "internet" support.

I think this is a kick back to Dean's campaign... he was big on the internet, but when caucus/primary time came around, it turned out that his support was virtual rather than real. People hear that Paul's support is mostly online and the pundits immediately think back to Dean and say, "We aren't going to be tricked again!"

> It has been soundly proven that the old polling system ranges anywhere from ineffective to rigged.

Proven, you say? As in a scientific study, published in a peer reviewed journal? Hmmm... interesting claim that I find highly unlikely to be true. Traditional polling is very accurate within the population polled. The only real factor(s) that taint traditional polls are question bias and population bias. Just because the people running a poll do so with bias does not invalidate the polling process. (In the same way, just because one person uses a car to run from police does not mean that all car drivers are criminals.)

> THAT is american democracy for you.

No, that is a bunch of unsubstantiated conspiracy BS. I am completely against closed software/hardware voting machines, but that doesn't mean I buy into the "Diebold won the election for Bush" propaganda. Show me some proof if you want me to believe your claims.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: Seuss]
    #7827003 - 01/03/08 10:45 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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I think this is a kick back to Dean's campaign... he was big on the internet, but when caucus/primary time came around, it turned out that his support was virtual rather than real.  People hear that Paul's support is mostly online and the pundits immediately think back to Dean and say, "We aren't going to be tricked again!"




Ron Paul isn't Howard Dean. Show me the money. :wink:


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: Seuss]
    #7827012 - 01/03/08 10:48 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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Traditional polling is very accurate within the population polled.




Very accurate when Ron Paul is left OFF the list of options to pick from? Very accurate when you go to choose "other" and it removes you from the polling list for future polls? How the hell are these accurate polls? To say Dr. Paul doesn't belong on the list is just insane considering how much money he has raised, how many debates he has won and how many straw polls he has won. Gaging an election used to be combination of factors but now a "people's" candidate emerges they narrow the process down to one singular thing: Land line phone polls. And how many people dumped their land line phones all together for cell phones or net phones? Land lines are very quickly becoming a thing of the past.

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I think this is a kick back to Dean's campaign




I think it's nothing of the sort. The media is not saying "we aren't going to be tricked". They are saying "black out Ron Pauls campaign every way possible without exposing MSM as the paid for stooges we are". The dean campaign was nothing like the support Dr. Paul is generating. Dean was picked as the front runner very early on, where they are scared to death to even talk about Dr. Paul half the time.

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No, that is a bunch of unsubstantiated conspiracy BS




The whole god damn media coverage is nothing but unsubstantiated BS. They are completely untrustworthy to anyone with their head above ground. The only thing we can count on in this election is more claims of fraud and a queen hitlery crowning ceremony if Ron Paul is not the repub nominee.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #7827050 - 01/03/08 11:14 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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One thing that cracks me up about the Ron Paul doubters is they say he only has "internet" support. What is the internet made up of? Are his supporters pixels now? Well let me clue you folks in: We are real people from all walks of life. People support Ron Paul. The internet is just a means of communication between people.

It has been soundly proven that the old polling system ranges anywhere from ineffective to rigged. To say that land-line phone polling voters from 2006 to get a realistic supporter percentage in this election as an accurate representation is laughable. Then you factor in things like cell phones, people fed up with the current state of affairs in numbers like never before the picture changes.

Now lets consider diebold voting machines which have been shown to have back door access to those with clearance. Diebold is a company who has greatly benefited from the bush admin and donated heavily to the 2004 election. Combine that with considerable claims of fraud from 2000 and 2004 we have serious reasons for doubting the authenticity of anything said in our media concerning elections.

THAT is american democracy for you.




I think you are deluding yourself. I wouldn't be upset if Paul received the republican nomination. In fact I would be jumping for joy. But as I see it he has a small number of supporters compared to every other single Republican candidate.

All the stuff you are saying, by the way, is exactly what supporters of fringe candidates say every election year. I should know because I was seriously involved in 2000 and in 2004 I worked for Howard Dean. You have to whip yourself into a frenzy so you tell yourself all of these optimistic fairy tales about innacurate polls and the media not taking into account first time voters or people with cell phones. I have heard it all before. Same crap, new fringe candidate.
In the end it is always someone like Dubya who is able to stand on top of the pile. In the words of Hunter S. Thompson "All politicians cheat and the winner always has blood on his hands"

I would be happy if I am proven wrong in the next three months, and you are proven right, but I don't think that it will happen :shrug:


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: Seuss]
    #7827088 - 01/03/08 11:36 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Give Seuss a semi-break for thinking Paul is just a 'virtual internet phenomenon" as he does not live in the U.S. and doesn't see the RP signs all over the place. Even the other candidates have been saying RP supporters are everywhere.

Even here........this shit outside of window during a Biden interview is just hilarious-





This one cracks me up too. I love these guys. They were on the ground at a Rudy rally in the background of a Fox news report on Rudy's visit-no Rudy supporters there though. Watch what they are doing behind the reporter. Looks like they are having a lot of fun.



To call Paul an internet phenomenon ONLY, may have been true as of last Spring, yet not since the flurry of ground, water and sky activity, as well as turn out in all of the GOP fund raising straw polls as of July.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7827103 - 01/03/08 11:41 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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you tell yourself all of these optimistic fairy tales




Fairy tales? Have the diebold machines not been proven to have back door access to manipulation from a company who's been accused of election fraud numerous times?

Has this said company had a personal interest in election outcomes proven by large donations?

How many people have cell phones in 08 compared to 00 or 04?

Have the land line phone polls not left the largest fund raiser off the list of options?

Have the phone polls not removed peoples numbers from their call list for choosing "other" as an option?

And lastly, how the hell can you consider the person with the most donations from individuals and the largest grass-roots support a fringe candidate? The only thing fringe about Ron Paul is his representation in the media. Hell fox news banned the largest republican fund raiser from the NH debates because they "don't have enough room in the trailer". Don't come here comparing this to Dean, this is a whole new level.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #7827126 - 01/03/08 11:53 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

Paul is in the next Fox NH debate. What he wasn't invited to is a "forum" discussion with Chris Wallace that follows the debate.

Apparently, the NH GOP is not happy with Fox about that and there is a lot of discussion going on. The other news stations are even covering it as they say, it makes no sense considering Paul is polling higher then Giuliani in Iowa and Thompson in NH, yet they were invited.

Fox has been taking a beating for it and things may change by then. If not, the Paul campaign is planning a huge rally near that forum right after the debate.

Paul supporters have been dumping stock in the parent company of Fox, protesting outside of local Fox news stations, and REC Chairs in many counties across the nation have been getting on Fox for this one. It has a been a blunder most people disagree with.

Just to make it clear, it's not the debate he was not invited to- He'll be in that. It's a sit down forum with Wallace after the debate that he was not invited to.......yet.


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7827149 - 01/03/08 11:59 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

The debate is ABC, the forum is Fox, and Fox is definitely receiving a lot of critisicm from all sources for this one. :headbang:


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Re: In regards to what people think about Ron Paul [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7827171 - 01/03/08 12:06 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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I think you are deluding yourself. I wouldn't be upset if Paul received the republican nomination. In fact I would be jumping for joy. But as I see it he has a small number of supporters compared to every other single Republican candidate.




And how have you determined the amount of supporters that other Republican candidates have, exactly? Please enlighten us. :sherlock:

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I have heard it all before. Same crap, new fringe candidate.




The same fringe candidate who is polling at third in Iowa, has the mainstream media saying he'll take third, has the gambling world saying he'll take third? The same fringe candidate who has even better chances in New Hampshire than in Iowa? The same fringe candidate who has raised more money than any other Republican candidate, with over 100,000 unique donors?

Wow, your definition of fringe candidate sounds more like frontrunner to me. :shrug:

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I would be happy if I am proven wrong in the next three months, and you are proven right, but I don't think that it will happen :shrug:




I said the same thing before he raised $4 million in one day back in November and nearly doubled his quarterly goal that I dismissed as just being unattainable. :smirk:

We'll see in a few hours, won't we? :hehehe:


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