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mosspatch
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is this mold?? (pics)
#7824002 - 01/02/08 02:44 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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my brf jars are 100% colonized and i am planning dunk & roll the next few days. BUT as i opened my jars just to get a look i found this on one of my jars...
it looks kinda fuzzy but still very white. and it's on top of the dry verm barrier.
the others dont have anything on the dry verm layer.

 also, this particular jar seemed to colonize faster than the others. but i thought it was just because i might have squirted more spore solution into that particular jar.
now i'm thinking it's contamination
also i have a lot of condensation in my other jars, and its just now starting to turn a pale yellow in a few spots where the water is collected. it's only been 4 days since 100% colonization... should i go ahead and get then cakes out of the jars??
should i treat for mold??
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Re: is this mold?? (pics) [Re: mosspatch]
#7824032 - 01/02/08 02:50 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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doesn't look like it.
just looks like some really aggressive mycelium.. birth them suckas!!
keep track of that jar i bet it will produce more than the others..
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Re: is this mold?? (pics) [Re: mosspatch]
#7824044 - 01/02/08 02:53 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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the pale yellow could be myc metabolites, which is basically myc 'piss'
if the fluffy stuff on top turns green, you've got trich on your hands, but it could just be fluffy myc
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Re: is this mold?? (pics) [Re: mosspatch]
#7824045 - 01/02/08 02:54 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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That one looks ok, but the picture is not exactly the bestest.
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Re: is this mold?? (pics) [Re: funnybunny]
#7824374 - 01/02/08 04:43 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Im unsure aswell, the dry verm layer has nothing for the myc to eat, even mould normaly wouldnt grow on it. I'd either leave it a few days and wait for some more experienced opinions or birth it into its on FC like the coke bottle chamber.
I would imagine that if it was mould it would have sporolated by now, but its better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: is this mold?? (pics) [Re: veda_sticks]
#7824443 - 01/02/08 05:15 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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do you guys even look at the pics before you post them?
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Re: is this mold?? (pics) [Re: tahoe]
#7824460 - 01/02/08 05:20 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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if you thought it was mold why would you risk opening your two other jars right next to it?
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mosspatch
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do you guys even look at the pics before you post them?
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if you thought it was mold why would you risk opening your two other jars right next to it?
WTF?? it's my first ime growing and these are my first jars. if you are not saying anything supportive or helpful, why respond to a post? quit wasting space.
i needed honest help... thanks to all those who answer legitimately. here are some more pics- they might help.


this last picture is of my other jar(s) that have the slight fuzzy thickness and yellowing right above the peak of the orange line. *btw ignore the orange line (that was just to mark the mycelium success)
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Re: is this mold?? (pics) [Re: mosspatch]
#7825600 - 01/02/08 09:50 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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mosspatch said:
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do you guys even look at the pics before you post them?
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if you thought it was mold why would you risk opening your two other jars right next to it?
WTF?? it's my first ime growing and these are my first jars. if you are not saying anything supportive or helpful, why respond to a post? quit wasting space.
i needed honest help... thanks to all those who answer legitimately. here are some more pics- they might help.


this last picture is of my other jar(s) that have the slight fuzzy thickness and yellowing right above the peak of the orange line. *btw ignore the orange line (that was just to mark the mycelium success)
The reason someone would ask if you look at the pictures before you post is OBVIOUS! How can you ask for help in identifying mold or any other contamination with blurry, out of focus pictures? In fact, you're wasting the space and OUR TIME. The second set of pictures were PERFECT! Thanks for taking the time to adjust. The second quote is perfectly legit! YOUR SUBJECT READ "is this mold", NOT..."I'M A NEWBIE AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME GROWING, PLEASE HELP." So the response was quite appropriate. Registration date and number of posts doesn't correlate to someones cultivation experience. Simma Daaawn Naa!
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if it has any weird smell it could be bacteria...but don't give up yet
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mosspatch
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The reason someone would ask if you look at the pictures before you post is OBVIOUS! How can you ask for help in identifying mold or any other contamination with blurry, out of focus pictures? In fact, you're wasting the space and OUR TIME. The second set of pictures were PERFECT! Thanks for taking the time to adjust. The second quote is perfectly legit! YOUR SUBJECT READ "is this mold", NOT..."I'M A NEWBIE AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME GROWING, PLEASE HELP." So the response was quite appropriate. Registration date and number of posts doesn't correlate to someones cultivation experience. Simma Daaawn Naa!
sorry. yea the second set of pics are a lot better. thanks for your opinion.
i actually just went ahead and birthed the cakes tonight (except for the one with fuzz on the very top)
when i took the cakes out some of the yellowy stuff stuck to the inside of the jars. some still stuck to the mycelium though. but the yellow stuff is kinda rubbery.
i dont think its mold but what the hell is it?
this first picture is a piece that i pulled off the inside of one of the jars. the other pics are of the unjarred cakes...
  
i guess i'm just gonna roll with it. hope for the best. wish me luck!
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: mosspatch]
#7825799 - 01/02/08 10:49 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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doesn't really look like contam.. but your cake isn't 100%.. you should have let it fully colonize before you birthed it..
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7825869 - 01/02/08 11:10 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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The yellow stuff is Matabolites. Perfectly normal and harmless. My grows usually have tons of it on the bottom of the pans. It reminds me of lemon flavored jello LOL! I would rinse it off and go with a "Dunk N' Roll.
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7825873 - 01/02/08 11:11 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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the barest spots are actualy where i inoculated it. its kinda weird. they look bare in this pic but it's just really thin mycelium right there.
the top still has a little of the dry verm layer that i haven't rubbed off yet. these pics were done before dunking.
but the mycelium has wrapped all the way around the top and bottom.
i was afraid to let them go any longer, though, because i thought the yellow stuff was due to overcolonization. they've been at 100% for like 6 days or so. but they've been n their jars for a little a month.
this is the PESA cubensis strain-- hard to find much on this one
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: mosspatch]
#7825921 - 01/02/08 11:29 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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The yellow stuff is Matabolites. Perfectly normal and harmless. My grows usually have tons of it on the bottom of the pans. It reminds me of lemon flavored jello LOL! I would rinse it off and go with a "Dunk N' Roll.
yea i kinda wanted to play with it ha ha
and i was really hoping it was just metabolites but i couldnt really find many pics of them.
drkrobotnik thinks my cakes are not fully colonized... what do you think?
they're in the fridge now, but do you think the thin mycelium spots are ok?? those are the areas that have been colonized the longest actually. inoculation points. i dunno why they're thin.
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: mosspatch]
#7825975 - 01/02/08 11:50 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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well i was moreso talking about the top of the cake in that picture..
i mean do whatever you want though.. you're the expert..
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7826615 - 01/03/08 08:08 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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 This looks like you possibly have a small amount of bacterial contamination going on where the metabolites are forming. Mycelium produces metabolites as an immunoresponse to many foreign invaders, especially bacterial.
 Looks like your "dry" verm barrier became moist, and you accidentally ended up with a vermiculite casing. That is healthy mycelium, though. It is not mold. Birth it and fruit it.
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: Sillicybin]
#7826726 - 01/03/08 09:17 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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After birthing, rinse off under the faucet the verm layer on top, including the colonized area of that one. Don't leave it or the mold spores that are there will likely germinate later, ruining the cake. Make sure your pictures are in focus before posting please. Thanks and good luck. RR
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7827693 - 01/03/08 02:27 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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what about the metabolites and the bacterial contamination? do i just leave them and birth them like that or should i scrub it off??
i dont want it to ruin my cakes
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Re: is this mold?? new pics!! [Re: mosspatch]
#7831291 - 01/04/08 09:35 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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That looks like a pint jar.... if it is, you can just cut the cake in half with a sharp knife (bread knife, if you have one) and fruit it as two separate halves, just in case.....
It's just really hard to tell from those pics how bad the infection is. If it's just surface metabolites, birth it and don't worry about it. If it looks spoiled underneath the mycelium, then you might want to halve it...
Either way, most bacterial contamination isn't THAT bad, mycelium can overtake it. The only thing to worry about is if there's mold spores in there that might germinate and take over because bacterial infection weakens the mycelium.
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