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Rudiger420
Rudiger420

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Anyone ever totally mix the spawn and casing together where the rye is dispersed? *DELETED*
#7823578 - 01/02/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Post deleted by Rudiger420Reason for deletion: Starting clean slate
Edited by Rudiger420 (01/02/08 03:34 PM)
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Civ
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Re: Anyone ever totally mix the spawn and casing together where the rye is dispersed? [Re: Rudiger420]
#7823596 - 01/02/08 12:33 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Search FLAT CAKES and you will find some more information on those. Works fine.
Check out eatyoualives' TEK http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/379356#379356
But you never mix SPAWN into your CASEING layer, only your SUBSTRATE.
Edited by Civ (01/02/08 12:35 PM)
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Anyone ever totally mix the spawn and casing together where the rye is dispersed? [Re: Civ]
#7823606 - 01/02/08 12:36 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Would dry out too fast I think. But you could dunk every flush.
I always wondered about BRF cakes on a skewer, like a kabob, suspended in a FC with perlite on the bottom.
You could run 4-6 across and maybe two rows in a decent sized tub.
The Shroomery Logo, with he Shroom ball was done similarly I think.
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tahoe
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Re: Anyone ever totally mix the spawn and casing together where the rye is dispersed? [Re: Rudiger420]
#7823633 - 01/02/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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>Once colonined tightly, one would pop entire brick of substrate out of pan and into fruiting chamber to allow growth from every angle. Anyone try this before?
yes it is called a cake. This is basically what a brf cake is. The casing which isnt casing in this tech is held throughout. This only works with species that do not require casing like cubes. You are only adding moisture resviours when mixing it together. You will not increase yeilds this way.
So basically its not a great idea, not bad, but not great.
here is an interesting pinning stragity. This is used for button mushrooms and I have never tried it with cubes since I do not grow cubes. But it does work with ports
The complete instructions can be found here http://www.mushroomadventures.com/instructions/mushroom-kit-instructions.html
Here is the important part
Set up your kit. Open the cardboard box and leave the box flaps pointing upward. Open the bag of compost, and pull up the excess plastic bag and leave it pointing up in the air, if it does not stay up tape it to the box flaps. Inside the bag of compost is a small bag of dry peat moss mixed with a little calcium carbonate, this is called casing. Casing is used as a covering to hold water and protect the mushroom mycelium growing in the compost. Scratch the entire surface of the compost 1/2" deep. You can use a nail or fork to do this. Next open the bag of dry casing, and into the casing bag add 1/2 cup of the scratched loose compost to grow large mushrooms or 1 cup of loose compost to grow smaller average size mushrooms and 5 cups (8 oz. cups) of room temperature tap water. Mix the water, 1/2 or 1 cup of loose compost and casing together, until you have an even very wet mixture. Let the casing sit in its’ own bag for 15 minutes to absorb most of the water before applying it to the compost. (A cup of water is 8 fluid ounces.)
Apply the casing. Now spread the wet casing evenly over the entire surface of the compost. Do not pack the casing down, leave it loose and fluffy. The casing should cover all the compost, and be approximately 1 inch deep. After applying the casing to the compost, mist or sprinkle the casing with an additional one-cup of water. Wait about 5 minutes and then scratch or ruffle the entire surface of the peat moss to a depth of ¾ inch. A nail or fork can be used to ruffle the casing. The roughness of the casing creates a microclimate where the young mushrooms can form. This completes setting up your kit. It is a good idea to write the date you start your kit on the box and on these instructions for later reference.
-------------------- Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
My Legacy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987 Teh=The I need to proofread
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Rudiger420
Rudiger420

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Re: Anyone ever totally mix the spawn and casing together where the rye is dispersed? [Re: Civ]
#7824142 - 01/02/08 03:26 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Civ "But you never mix SPAWN into your CASEING layer, only your SUBSTRATE"
Why not? I think it would work fine. The only disadvantage of this method vs spawn directly in center of 6 walls of casing would be the time it takes for the mycelium to find each other through the mixed casing layer. Isn't the food source in nature dispersed thoughout the ground? The mycelium will connect and form a stronger network. The one kid is right though, it would have to be a strain that doesn't need a casing layer even though there is a 50/50 mix vermic/peatmoss. Never thought of it that way. Thanks
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tahoe
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Re: Anyone ever totally mix the spawn and casing together where the rye is dispersed? [Re: Rudiger420]
#7824214 - 01/02/08 03:45 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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wtf??? So you are talking about building a bigger bulk area with less nutrients in it? Okay crumble one pf cake and mix it with a 2 cubic foot bag of potting soil/casing. Now wait. Get back to us in a year
-------------------- Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
My Legacy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987 Teh=The I need to proofread
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