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Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity
#7823507 - 01/02/08 12:09 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I was contemplating the topic of equal opportunity, and I was reading a little bit on the idea of equal opportunity itself to inform myself of how it is perceived to be.
Thus, I came to find a conclusion that I had already reached on my own, that opportunity itself is a unique phenomenon that cannot truly be accurately measured. In practical terms, then, equal opportunity is when people with similar abilities attain similar results, referred to as equality of outcome.
Now, I came to read that social traditions can interfere with the practice of equal opportunity, such as the transference of wealth from one generation to the next, through inheritance.
Essentially, someone with a similar ability as another will have greater opportunities if they have more resources to utilize that ability to produce an outcome. This is an obstacle to equal opportunity.
I hereby introduce a new social program, to ensure equal opportunity for all human life! Realizing that social traditions such as inheritance can interfere with the actualization of equal opportunity, it is thus only logical to conclude that biological traditions, such as the inheritance of genetic material, interefere with equal opportunity as well. Therefore, we must implement a program through genetic material is redistributed to ensure that every human has equal opportunity in life!
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: fireworks_god]
#7823522 - 01/02/08 12:11 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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ooo genetics.. touchy subject
When you say equal opportunity I was thinking more of my theory of socializing all public schools (through 12th grade) so all schools in amerca get the same money per head that way no one can use the "i didnt get the same opportunities" excuse when we take away everyone's welfare.
Your idea about genetics.. you are just joking, right?
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: BrAiN]
#7823568 - 01/02/08 12:23 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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fuckin' commie!

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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: BrAiN]
#7823569 - 01/02/08 12:23 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well, ensuring the same access to funding is a great step, in that the available monetary resources are there, but every school district is different, with a different administration that will utilize those funds differently. The teachers will be different in every school, with different understanding and methods, because of that cursed genetic material.
Then you have the fact that every student is distinct. In regards to school, I do personally feel that the same general opportunities should be there, but there are too many distinct variables that change everything. For example, you stated that you feel every school should get the same money per head.
Now, let's take that further. Let's say that you have two classes in two schools, each with five students. That pesky genetic material is going to make it so that two in one class are mentally disabled (a general, vauge term), whereas maybe one isn't in the other school, and perhaps the other three in that class are exceptionally gifted (the product of more successful genetics in regards to their capabilities of learning and applying understanding), whereas the other class in the other school has five average (a general, vauge term) students in terms of mental capabilities.
Would you still feel that the same "equal funds per head" rule should apply? Is that reflective of the nature of reality?
I'm certainly not serious about social engineering of genetics, but that is the concept of equal opportunity carried out to an extreme, to illustrate a valid point. Redistributing accumulated wealth passed along through inheritance is ideaologically no different than redistributing genetic material passed along through inheritance.
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7823577 - 01/02/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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drkrobotnik said: fuckin' commie!

Haha! I'm as far from a commie as they get. I'm totally against welfare. The only reason I'm a proponent of this way of doing school funding is so it makes the "i didn't get the same opportunity" excuse for collecting welfare COMPLETELY INVALID.... so we can use it as a step towards eliminating welfare altogether
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7823580 - 01/02/08 12:27 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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drkrobotnik said: fuckin' commie!
Of course, what some tend to neglect is the creation of a regulatory class of people that would be necessary in order to manage such a social order, whether it be genetic material or wealth being regulated to ensure "equal opportunity"...
Wouldn't that be hypocrisy, resultant from the social order not being based in reality?
Joseph Stalin ring a bell for anyone? Apparently it must have.
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: BrAiN]
#7823581 - 01/02/08 12:28 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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I think it was a quick reply error.
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: fireworks_god]
#7823588 - 01/02/08 12:30 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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yap.
i feel your ancestors/parents should have worked harder if they want more opportunity. lots of people want handouts
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#7823654 - 01/02/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well, I don't think that society shouldn't seek to alleviate suffering in fellow beings, or simply let people die off. For example, I am fascinated by red pandas, who are facing extinction because of changes in their environment, mostly the result of human impact (although other forces could equally threaten their environment). They are not the most adaptive critters, but for them to go extinct would be a tragic loss. I favor diversity, especially in genetics (which was only referred to as an extreme example regarding something else initially ), because centralizing all life in one or a few strains threatens the survival of life itself.
I don't advocate sustaining other life, like feeding blood to a tick , but rather creating an environment in which all life has a means to provide for itself... In the case of red pandas, they are very cute, cuddly animals that could make very cool pets. They have specific needs that the environment itself cannot presently provide well due to our impact, but, in the meantime, we can engage in a symbiotic relationship with them to ensure their survival and our own well-being as well....
Human beings are meant to be stewards of life. Ultimately, in the interest of our own survival. We are life, after all. 
Of course, now I'm just being philosophical in a thread that was simply intended as a quick joke on a political topic.
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Re: Social Program To Ensure Equal Opportunity [Re: fireworks_god]
#7823686 - 01/02/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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yap well when you move one species to a different habitat it could possibly become invasive.
feral red pandas.
imagine what that could do.. a gang of feral red pandas ON YO ASS!
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