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About Anno deciding for everybody....
    #782344 - 07/28/02 02:16 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #782378 - 07/28/02 02:36 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

It doesn't matter who made the rule. It's "their" site, "they" can make any rules they wish. If you don't wish to abide by their rules, start your own site.

Quite frankly, the line in the sig's to which you refer amounted to unpaid advertising. It should have been stopped long ago.

And how you can compare a rule here at a private site, to attempts to alter the Constitution, is just plain silly.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #782448 - 07/28/02 03:13 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

I believe I have a right to express not only my opinion but the opinions of what others have been expressing to me.




Yes you do, no matter how foolish.

And I never said you didn't. You don't have a right to free advertising though, which is what I did say.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: World Spirit]
    #782493 - 07/28/02 03:38 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #783726 - 07/29/02 08:52 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

>I love the way he altered the list of rules in the Vendors
>Forum to make it look like Thor made this rule. Thor did not
>make this rule, Anno did.

I?m sorry to take your illusion away, but the rule was there since the Shroomery switched the servers.

I didn?t "invent" it. But I fully support it.

The only thing I did in Thor?s thread was to reorder and rephrase some of the rules. Nothing more. Nothing less.

To quote you:
"That's all I need to say about this issue."

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #784147 - 07/29/02 12:28 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Anno is fair person. HE is one of rare ones, i could put my hand in fire he is not bullshiter.

You, boxtop are vendor. Your first priority is money. If you do not like their policy do not donate them money, so it will maybe change that policy.

But you are not politicaly strong to say other shroomers about rights and freedom. Why? Cause you are the vendor and your deeds are not turned toward fairnes but MONEY. I started to repeat myself .

And do not bs over Anno, he is not deserving that from your side.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Crobih]
    #784428 - 07/29/02 02:42 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)


My problem with this RULE is the following: This is a member driven site. It would not exists if it did not have participating members (members who post, and have links to vendors websites in their signatures). To impose such a dictatorus rule upon the members without taking a vote is unacceptable. How do you think communism began? It started with the government taking away the basic rights of the masses. Dictating their way of life. Now your way of life is being dictated. (And no, I'm not calling Anno a communist) . If you accept not being able to put whatever you want in your signature, then what is next. Not being able to say mushroom in your post; not being able to create your own pass word; not being able to control who reads your PM?s; or the shroomery deciding to sell your email address?

But then again, it?s a private site. So they can do what they want. But Moraly, they have an obligation to take the members opinions in consideration. What are they going to do, Ban EVERYONE who has a link in their signature? ?I DON?T THINK SO?. If they did this, the shroomery wouldn?t exist. It wouldn?t have paying Mycological Liaisons like myself, as well as Paying Vendors to help keep this place running.

Then everyone would be left to try alternative sources for information as well as gamble with ordering from scam artists.

This RULE is a violation of FREE SPEECH, and FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION? Do you get my point?

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #784493 - 07/29/02 03:11 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

boxtop: maybe if you didn't ban people from ordering for arbitrary reasons you'd get that extra income yr looking for.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Mushroom_Madness]
    #784547 - 07/29/02 03:42 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

My problem with this NEWLY INVENTED RULE is the following: This is a member driven site. It would not exists if it did not have participating members (members who post, and have links to vendors websites in their signatures). To impose such a dictatorus rule upon the members without taking a vote is unacceptable. How do you think communism began? It started with the government taking away the basic rights of the masses. Dictating their way of life. Now your way of life is being dictated. (And no, I'm not calling Anno a communist) . If you accept not being able to put whatever you want in your signature, then what is next. Not being able to say mushroom in your post; not being able to create your own pass word; not being able to control who reads your PM?s; or the shroomery deciding to sell your email address?

But then again, it?s a private site. So they can do what they want. But Moraly, they have an obligation to take the members opinions in consideration. What are they going to do, Ban EVERYONE who has a link in their signature? ?I DON?T THINK SO?. If they did this, the shroomery wouldn?t exist.




I don't see any members complaining, just vendors!!

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #784934 - 07/29/02 06:27 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

your just not looking in the right places i guess
here it is
AND thank you M.M.
i had read the listof rules at least 5 times, when venders kept putting picture/ banner links in their sigs, and everyone was raising hell, i was 100% sure the rule was new, or i would have probablty mentioned it, or removed my link.
and all this fuss.... the only explanations we have got was,
a) because the venders abuse it w/ sig contest
b) this is our site, like it or leave ( which was never actually stated, but it is implied)
c) lets just get rid of the sigs all together, that'll show em
d) and my spelling of here by should be hereby

In reply to:

Anno has expressed that this is the first part of his solution, and after this type of contest has been wiped away from the Shroomery, users will once again be able to put the url of vendors in their sigs again.




ok, it was stated that after you get the sig contests under control, the option to have links will be allowed. hmmmmmmm im not following the logic. if you dont forbid sig contests, and give us our PRIVELAGE back, then there wont be anything to stop the sig contests again.
your all (mods n admins)at least semi-intelligent, some more, some riding the edge on the other side, but all at least semi... you should know you dont cure a cold by treating the cough.
ok, youve listened to me bitch and moan, let me ask you a question
In reply to:

The Shroomery is growing very fast, and we have to take steps to adapt. That's all it is. No alterior motives



In reply to:

This has nothing to do with personal preference and everything to do with improving the community



how in the hell what i have in my link detrimental to the new ones coming in? we get a ton of posts asking, where can i get this, where can i get that. can you imagine with all those posts, how many actually look at the links, and make educated decisions, without ever cluttering up the boards? if ANYTHING links should be encouraged........we're /you're gonna get tired of seeing the "where can i find" posts, and then attitudes will flair, and the flames will begin.... Is this the best thing for the community? is this adepting? sounds more like regression, and probably going to harm the community more than you realize.
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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #784996 - 07/29/02 06:53 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with boxtop just on principal. I want to be able to put anything in my sig as long as it isnt detrimental. but now that it is a controversy the mods and admins cant just reverse it all of a sudden cuz that would be admitting that they took a too drastic approach and all humans have pride so thats not a possibility. However, all the people talking about a revolution more or less, and comparing this to the onset of communism are a little drastic. regardless of whats in peeps sigs i can still get all the info and entertainment i want regarding mushrooms. In conclusion, Anno and thor and all of the peeps in power, i think you are wrong, however I love you guys for all your help and creating one of my favorite sites right behind sublimedirectory, so finally, THE SHROOMERY IS GREAT, THE ADMINS DONT WANT TO DELIBERATELY HURT US, THEY JUST DO WHAT THEY JUDGE BEST AT THE TIME. CANT EVERYBODY JUST GET ALONG?! SERIOUSLY NOW.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Mushroom_Madness]
    #785292 - 07/29/02 09:21 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

>From what I can read, Anno did not reorder and rephrase some of the rules He invented new ones

I have the impression I am the only one who can read:

New Rules
1. Vendors or users cannot use graphic advertisements in thier sigs, even simple links are not acceptable.


Can you read it again please?
So please tell me how did I alter this rule to the worse for you?

Edited by Anno (07/29/02 11:41 PM)

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #785415 - 07/30/02 12:01 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

You are correct.... My Fault. I retract my statement, and will edit it accordingly.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #785601 - 07/30/02 04:40 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

>>You know what Enter, there's a real simple solution to that without trampling over the rights of the masses. Ban signature contests! That was simple wasn't it!

and if he would have done it that way you would be here bitching about how he banned sig contest and are stomping all over those rights....

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Mushroom_Madness]
    #785786 - 07/30/02 07:02 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Once again, the comparison on the policy before I refined it and after. You will see that I didn?t add any new rule that would make the rules more restrictive.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #786058 - 07/30/02 09:37 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Any one who is even remotely honest and not looking to cause a fuss can see that the later version of the rules is less restrictive than the older version.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #787636 - 07/31/02 04:53 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with Boxtop; why not just ban signature contests? That makes sense to me, but why shouldn't users be allowed to put a vendor link in their sig just because they want it there? Someone's sig (or post) might contain a link to a vendor they have had good experiences with for the same reason it might contain a link to a tek they have had good experiences with; because they think people should know about it and it might help someone who is new to this. Frankly, some vendors have lower prices than others, and if I want to help out a vendor who has sold me good shit at a good price, then why the hell shouldn't I be able to do that? If we have vendor links in our sigs, it could possibly help newbies, it could possibly help the vendor, and who would be hurt by it? The unpopular vendors that no one is going to recommend?
Oh, and by the way, lovedem, shouldn't the NRA be paying for all the "free advertising" they get on this site because of you? What a stupid thing to say.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #787651 - 07/31/02 05:01 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

>>I agree with Boxtop; why not just ban signature contests?

Read my post about 4 up.... it wouldnt matter what anno decided to ban, if anno had banned the contests instead you would be reading a post about how he should have banned links in sigs instead of the sig link contests. Either way anno looses and someone is still whining.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #787673 - 07/31/02 05:14 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

>why not just ban signature contests?

The fact that some vendors are "buying" the signature space with their contests has been recognized (a few months) too late by the shroomery administrators.
That?s why it wouldn?t be fair to only ban the signature contests, but we had to take futher action, namely get rid of the already gained signature advertisment space.(even at the cost of prohibiting some "legally" ment support)
And even if we would have only prohibited such contests, look at what windex wrote in his posts....

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: windex]
    #787685 - 07/31/02 05:23 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

windex: Maybe and maybe not. But even if you are right that vendors would still be complaining, I wouldn't be. I don't like sig contests. And as long as users can still put info about vendors into their sigs (if it isn't a link), then this rule isn't such a big deal. But I don't like it, and I don't think it makes any sense. Serioulsy, what is the point of this rule? It would have made sense to ban sig contests, but this doesn't seem to make any sense at all.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #790250 - 08/01/02 08:39 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Anno was justified in this matter, I am no longer getting involved in the BB and it is now upto 3D, Anno, and Moe to deal with these issues.

The signature issues was something that we had always discussed to deal with, simply because there is abuse and we want it to stop.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #796826 - 08/04/02 10:39 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

I love my Sig and im going to keep it!!!!!!!!


So fuck all you who don't like it!


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: KoOs]
    #796834 - 08/04/02 10:43 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm, then you will have to face the consequences.
Your signature will be edited, and if you put it back on, you will get banned.

It?s your choice.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #796846 - 08/04/02 10:53 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Why are you doing this to us???


All this is doing is pissing people off........

I think it's really fucked up! How did ever having a venders addy in my sig hurt anyone?


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: KoOs]
    #796854 - 08/04/02 11:03 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

If you read the the whole thread from top to the bottom, then you will probably recognize why.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: MicronMagick]
    #797062 - 08/05/02 04:58 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

lol dont bullshit anyone here, the fapa was another way, for YOU to get the free advertising in a round about way. and of course, your all for this new rule, as you dont see many of YOUR links in sigs, and now, your going to save $$$$ on the free filter disks............. or, since we all are link free, you going to send them to every shroomer here?????
i do agree, sig contests are shit, and i have denied entering quite a few. UNLESS i really respect the vender who is running it.
but i say fuck the venders, this aint about them. the users here are the only ones who really lost something, and again i say, if you got a problem with the venders doing something TAKE IT UP WITH THEM, leave the user's alone. now anno is even threatening banning USERS. all because he dont have the nads to actually enforce the VENDERS to do as expected. of course, the users dont pay the bills, so its easier to make them change, INSTEAD of those who are fucking up in the first place.
for those who whined until this rule was passed/enforced. do you think just because the fav venders dont have links put in satisfied customers sigs, that your going to get more sales, hahaha the venders with the most sig links, EARNED them for the most part. you dont get that many VOLUNTARY links by bad service.
and the best service will get the most sales, links or not.
In reply to:

it wouldnt matter what anno decided to ban, if anno had banned the contests instead you would be reading a post about how he should have banned links in sigs instead of the sig link contests. Either way anno looses and someone is still whining.




hmmmmmmmmmmmmm wouldnt it be better to have what 10-15 venders whining, as aposed to 10-15 venders AND 1500+ users?

*** btw MM *** your sig is violating the new shroomery rules. i expect anno will want you to change it soon as possible
NOTE im sorry i was wrong on the last statement
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4. Vendors are allowed to have a simple link to their site in their signature but no graphical advertisements.




lol i guess only the users are being punished ...unreal the ones who caused all this bullshit, arent even being made to follow the SAME rules........


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #797086 - 08/05/02 05:21 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: MicronMagick]
    #797088 - 08/05/02 05:24 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

i added a disclaimer on the post, i just assumed it was a no links for everyone, until i just reread the rules, i stand corrected. my apologies.


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #797096 - 08/05/02 05:28 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

It is not.

>and the best service will get the most sales, links or not.
Now we are talking.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #797101 - 08/05/02 05:31 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: ralphster44]
    #797195 - 08/05/02 06:25 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

But ehey, in this way considering it again, vendors do not need to lick members asses, such as some did for a long time. In that way, members profited, and there where many contests. I think only Ralph himself did over 50 of the contests. Especially those signature ones.

Now, with this new policy, the only rule is the money rule. No more good idea rules.

Anno, I think you are missing a big deal if you think that good vendor will gain customers by making this rule. Its pretty famous thing that NEW products who could be far better in giving the service have no virtual chance if they can not make any sort of campaign, even signature one.

So, the basic line is next. If you censour things, you are stoping natural flow toward healthy equilibrium. Equilibrium that would be good thing for the whole community, especially members.

BTW, I do not give a shit about these things nay more, but my 2c are here.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Crobih]
    #797282 - 08/05/02 07:07 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

>they can not make any sort of campaign, even signature one.
They can make ANY sort of camapaign that is in accordance with the rules.


>you are stoping natural flow toward healthy equilibrium
In nature the antelopes only reach a heathy equilibrium if the lions and hyenas are limiting their striving to spread over the whole African continent...

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #797302 - 08/05/02 07:18 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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In nature the antelopes only reach a heathy equilibrium if the lions and hyenas are limiting their striving to spread over the whole African continent...




lol@u, in nature equilibrium is only acceived if the strongest are able to be the strongest. the weak die off. if all lions and hyena's are only allowed a "fare" share of antelope ass, then ALL lions and hyena's get thin, and die anyway. because they arent strong enough to fight off disease and predators. this of course, leads to an over popluation of antelopes ( not enough spores, or venders, which allows them to raise the prices, due to supply/demand issues)
nice try tho [me] gives anno a+ for effort


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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #797340 - 08/05/02 07:32 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

>gives anno a+ for effort
Thank you for the roses....

>nature equilibrium is only acceived if the strongest are able to be the strongest

The lion eats the antelopes(or to put it the other way round, the antelopes feed the lion). . The antelopes graze the grass.

The Shroomery is the lion

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #797467 - 08/05/02 08:33 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

OK, you are lion. I thought you are informational site made to help creating the equilibrium. At least you are presenting yourself in that light. Except this little error.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Crobih]
    #797549 - 08/05/02 09:05 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

No problem, I won?t eat you up

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #800025 - 08/06/02 11:47 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

OK, afterall we belog to the same strain

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    #801492 - 08/07/02 03:53 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: ralphster44]
    #803860 - 08/08/02 04:06 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

The fair way to resolve this was to disallow the links to vendors in posts. You have to look at it from a leaders point of view, you have those who are just voicing their opinion (which they can still do through positive feedback threads), vendors profiteering from these signatures and vendors getting less business due to the large amount of publicity these links have taken away from them. You can't please everybody.

The situation now is that you can still post threads relating to your experiences but for the most part the vendor business stays in the vendor forum. Nobody is hurt from this except the people who have lost business, thems the breaks my dear good men and if this is what it takes to keep the shrooomery to being reduced to a marketplace I say good on you moderators. Vendors worried about decreased revenue from advertising, I'm sure you guys will come up with another way to advertise, after all - when has marketing fully failed before. I hear gravestone advertising is becoming popular




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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: Anno]
    #818157 - 08/15/02 01:13 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

High Anno and the rest,

After reading this post I got the feeling it was time for some expression

Maybe it is a Euro thing but I can fully understand some guys who posted above me. And wanna support them in their visions and thoughts.

I like to look in the future, I saw a 'dark syringe' thing comming way before it started. So know I am seeing a new thing comming. Maybe rules can be made to avoid/aprove such action.

Well I am talking about avatar mis-use. It will come. Maybe deceide know before it is spread and deceisions leads to endless debates. Maybe while you are discusing the sig stuff the avatar stuff can be added.
I do not state it should be not allowed or allowed. Just think about it.

My opinion is that people must be as free as possible or free at all.
So free to put in there sig what they want.
As this is a international community some rules must be added as different cultures meet each other. We have to respect each other without hurting.
Respect is not something that you earn, it is something you can only loose.

I used a banner contest once (maybe twice?) for the FSRE, just at the start up. I am sure it helped a lot for the FSRE in anouncing her excistance! Using my sig was and is a powerfull tool. Member carry-ing my sig (at free will ) is powerfull too. Without this option the FSRE would not be what it is today.

I think things can go much nicer if we all do our best.
Ones I posted a contest which was called back by RoadKill. He thought it was offending toward an other contest. Well I aplogized to all people involved. And after some pm's a new contest was born. Two people worked it out on a very good way (I think). Now, next to a number of prints the same number off a certain product is given away to the winners. It is still running.

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Re: About Anno deciding for everybody.... [Re: boxtop703]
    #818163 - 08/15/02 01:17 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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To hell with all the people....




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