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"Rot or Not" - For the learned
    #7823313 - 01/02/08 11:23 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

I have an idea. Tell me if it's been tried or why it won't work.

Think of it as "Rot or Not" -- What if there was a way to vote on and search for images related to contamination? Why not leverage the collective experience? Hell, the same could be done for the hunting forum.


Here's my thoughts:

1. So I think I have contamination. I upload some pics with my description. People can then give the pics between one and five "rottens" and have space for a reply.

2. In the future, someone can browse the pics before uploading their own.

3. Pics are given their "rotten rating" weight by the evaluator's number of posts. Maybe you'd use the number of 5 shroomies in the user rating...anyway: People who would theoretically have more experience would be able to override those with less experience.

    Example:
  • 1-49 posts: weight of 1
  • 50-199 posts: weight of 2
  • 200-500 posts: weight of 5
  • 501-999 posts: weight of 10
  • 1000-9999 posts: weight of 20
  • 10000-49999 posts: weight of 50
So I tell someone they have 5 rottens.
Someone like Wronguy (weight of 20) says everything is fine and gives it 0 rottens.
Then RR (weight of 50) comes along and says it's unlikely but maybe a little something and isn't completely confident. He gives it 1 rotten.

The score looks like this. Keep in mind, you'd make it nice bar graphs like Amazon.
  •   5 rottens: 1
  •   4 rottens: 0
  •   3 rottens: 0
  •   2 rottens: 0
  •   1 rotten:  50 <-- RR gave one rotten but has a weight of 50
  •   0 rottens: 20 <-- Wronguy said it was fine, he added 20
What's important is that out of three voters I represent 1.4% of the votes instead of 33% of the votes.

4. If I trust someone, say GoldenSchlagger, I could filter on pics that GoldenSchlagger said have 5 rottens. Then I don't have to worry about the inaccuracies of Wronguy and can focus on someone's opinion I trust. :wink:

5. If you want to get your confidence up, you could test yourself by showing images and descriptions without ratings. After 20 or so images, you get a scorecard.

6. If you want to geek out, maybe choose an existing user to contrast against to see how much you agree based upon your historical ratings.


Leverage history so that people can better help themselves.


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Re: "Rot or Not" - For the learned [Re: blaine]
    #7830738 - 01/04/08 05:00 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

It's far more complicated than that.

Rot (bacterial contamination) is not the only thing to be avoided. There is mold, and pests as well.

Not to mention, there are a lot of times where even those of us experienced with myco grow contaminants cannot certainly say whether the fuzzy phone picture is a picture of contamination or normal mushroom mycelium growth.

And sometimes tests and observations need be made, or questions answered before a conclusion can be reached.

I don't think the current system of evaluation in the Contamination Forum is in dire need of a makeover.


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Re: "Rot or Not" - For the learned [Re: CureCat]
    #7832104 - 01/04/08 02:11 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

:smile: Thanks, CC.

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And sometimes tests and observations need be made, or questions answered before a conclusion can be reached.





After I posted, I realized there was a lot of dialogue in a diagnosis.

My motivation was that I wish there was a measurable way that I could become more proficient in diagnosing contaminants. Reading the forums is educational but then I second guess myself as far as how much I'm remembering. :smile:


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Re: "Rot or Not" - For the learned [Re: blaine]
    #7834471 - 01/05/08 03:38 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Yeah, I see the value in what you're trying to do.  It'd be cool if it was so easy.  Luckily, you can experiment and take chances with cultivation, yet it would be ill advised to take comparable risk with say mushroom identification (and subsequent consumption).

You'll know when you get your shit down... just don't let it get to your head.  :wink:


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