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YoungGrasshopper
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Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots?
#7817755 - 12/31/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So It is day 4 of my cakes in the terrarium. I noticed a few small white bumps on the cakes which I look like Hyphal Knots. I've heard mixed things about maintaining the cakes when these pop out. Some have said not to mist the knots or not to mist the cakes at all and let the knots grow to pins for a few days.
Should I give these cakes a light 2-3 mist spray above the cakes? These knos have been on the cake for 2 days now and havent really changed much. I dont see any contams on my cakes but I Worry that I may be giving them too much water. Humidity is at 100%. Degrees at 72 to 74 degrees. I fan about 4-6 times a day and Give them plenty of water. I dont spray the cakes directly although my spray bottle sprays out big drops of water sometimes.
Should i let these cakes be without water for a few days or do i keep misting them lightly?
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I am also curious about this cause i was under the impression that if hyphal knot get wet they will abort or not form. so i am wondering what to do?
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: kupa trooper]
#7817796 - 12/31/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Light misting can occur during primordia formation and into pinning. You will typically have pinhead aborts when you provide too much water. A light misting 2-4 times a day will provide ample water delivery during this stage of the grow. Once the mushrooms have reached above the casing layer or vermiculite layer in cakes, I always recommend bringing this layer back up to field capacity throughout the final stages of fruitbody growth.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: kupa trooper]
#7818224 - 12/31/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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kupa trooper said: I am also curious about this cause i was under the impression that if hyphal knot get wet they will abort or not form. so i am wondering what to do?
this impression is wrong. Mist away my friends, mist away
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: tahoe]
#7818416 - 12/31/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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^ Agreed. Mist!
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: mushies101]
#7818668 - 12/31/07 11:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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standing water and large drops landing on them i believe can cause aborts, if you have a good mister that produces a fine fine mist its ok.
I have always been weary about misting when ever i see primordia and knotting etc
the trouble is i never see them untill they are pins so i dont stop misting.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7818761 - 01/01/08 12:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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veda_sticks said: standing water and large drops landing on them i believe can cause aborts, if you have a good mister that produces a fine fine mist its ok.
I have always been weary about misting when ever i see primordia and knotting etc
the trouble is i never see them untill they are pins so i dont stop misting.
Either you agree with misting or you don't. You have negative to say about it in this thread but positive in the one right next to it.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: mushies101]
#7818766 - 01/01/08 12:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It can be a little difficult to understand what im getting at sometimes.
If it boils down to misting or not misting.
Then definatly misting.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: mushies101]
#7818866 - 01/01/08 01:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushies101 said:
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veda_sticks said: standing water and large drops landing on them i believe can cause aborts, if you have a good mister that produces a fine fine mist its ok.
I have always been weary about misting when ever i see primordia and knotting etc
the trouble is i never see them untill they are pins so i dont stop misting.
Either you agree with misting or you don't. You have negative to say about it in this thread but positive in the one right next to it.
Misting is good at all times, misting with big droplets is bad especially during hyphal knot and primordia formation, which is why at that time, unless you have a good mister that makes a nice fine mist you should mist very lightly and more often, or even not at all for a couple of days.
But then a good pressure mister is cheap so the best option is to invest in one of them.
After misting cakes remember to fan them well to take care of any sitting water droplets.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7819073 - 01/01/08 04:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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veda_sticks said: standing water and large drops landing on them i believe can cause aborts, if you have a good mister that produces a fine fine mist its ok.
what you believe and what is fact could be two different things
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: tahoe]
#7819499 - 01/01/08 10:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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tahoe said:
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veda_sticks said: standing water and large drops landing on them i believe can cause aborts, if you have a good mister that produces a fine fine mist its ok.
what you believe and what is fact could be two different things
That is very true, which is why were are open to discusion.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7819627 - 01/01/08 10:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Day 5, more hyphal knots...no pins. Temp is the same, humidity is the same. I hope I see pins in the next few days.
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Is the cake double-end cased/rolled? Better that the casing is moist than dry. A fine mist SOMETIMES provides the kicker for them to fruit when they seem to be stuck on doing nothing,as far as a casing layer on cakes goes. Depends on the strain,too---plus 7-10 days is usually a very visually majic time inside the FC. Be patient!
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: uglyboy]
#7822828 - 01/02/08 07:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well i had 2 cakes that had just finished there flush and had let them sit for a few days and decided they last flush was pretty disapointing so ill just chuck them, well yesterday picked em up and gave one of them a good look, had an abort on the bottom, and just as i was about to toss it, theres this healthy looking shroom at the top, another look around and i see another pin.
2 day there are more.
So, fuck it, im gonna mist the crap out of these cakes as this is most likley the last flush, and ill see how many aborts i get.
I bet i bet much better pinning though.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7822874 - 01/02/08 08:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would expect that the natural morning dew wets them down in nature.
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Re: Misting Cakes with Hyphal Knots? [Re: 04281969]
#7823185 - 01/02/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you would expect correctly
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