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Acyl
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There are different actives..
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THEBats
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Orbital_Saucer said: Marijuana, put abstractly, seems to soften the hard edges of my consciousness. It puts a person more in tune with some aspects of their mind, and less in tune with others.
Subtle, yet profound would be the best all-around description.
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ohnoezes said: the high depends on the strain you're smoking.
Prove this to me. Unless there are other psychoactive compounds in cannabis besides THC, there is no reason one strain would give a different high from another. (not talking about potency here)
It's like saying being drunk from beer is different from being drunk from Brandy.
umm cnb? and beer can have a more relaxing effect then brandy because it's made with hops, a relative of cannabis and a mild seditive.
Edited by THEBats (01/02/08 09:00 PM)
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tedgar
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: THEBats]
#7825387 - 01/02/08 09:02 PM (16 years, 30 days ago) |
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THC isn't the only active ingredient in marijuana, therefore the other quantities of active ingredients that vary from strain to strain will indeed have an effect on the "high." Just off the top of my head, cannabidiol is one I believe? Different actives make for different effects
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hightimesreader
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CokedUpHobit64 said:
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Orbital_Saucer said: Marijuana, put abstractly, seems to soften the hard edges of my consciousness. It puts a person more in tune with some aspects of their mind, and less in tune with others.
Subtle, yet profound would be the best all-around description.
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ohnoezes said: the high depends on the strain you're smoking.
Prove this to me. Unless there are other psychoactive compounds in cannabis besides THC, there is no reason one strain would give a different high from another. (not talking about potency here)
It's like saying being drunk from beer is different from being drunk from Brandy.
its pretty well known that different strains give different highs unless you've been living under a rock with nothing but bunk weed.
Harsh but I agree. Marijuana has THC and other Cannabanoids. Theres at least 10. I read a report stating somewhere in the hundreds. As you SHOULD understand, having gone through high school already, that when a female and a male mate, it creates a new pheno and geno type. This new organism has different alleles and thus has potential to have a new gene for, say, 7 dif. CBD's being 50%, 10%, 5%, 5%, 10%, 10%, 10% of the active content and it doesnt have any of the other 3 'alleged' CBD's? It's strain dependent. Why do you think that on avrg., indicas are a stoney high and sativas are headies? THC content has nothing to do with it as you can see on seed banks thc % if they provide it. It's the actives and concentrations of each in them. Read up a little though
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hightimesreader
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If Soma was a plant, maybe it contained CBD's that only appear in trace to small amounts in various strains if at all that are as some connoisseurs describe as psychedelic? Maybe we could find this strain soon? 
HTR
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TheAbyss
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OSITIVE
* mood lift, euphoria * laughter * relaxation, stress reduction * creative, philosophical or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily * increased appreciation of music. More aware of, deeper connection to music. * increased awareness of senses. (eating, drinking, smell) * change in experience of muscle fatigue. Pleasant body feel. Increase in body/mind connection. * pain relief (headaches, cramps) * reduced nausea, increased appetite (used medically for this) * boring tasks or entertainment can become more interesting or funny
NEUTRAL
* general change in consciousness (as with many psychoactives) * increased appetite, snacky-ness * slowness (slow driving, talking) * change in vision such as sharpened colors or lights * closed-eye visuals (somewhat uncommon) * tiredness, sleepiness, lethargy * stimulation, inability to sleep (less common) * blood shot eyes (more common with certain varieties of cannabis and inexperienced users) * mouth dryness, sticky-mouth (varies with strain) * interrupts linear memory. Difficulty following a train of thought. * cheek, jaw, facial tension / numbness (less commonly reported) * racing thoughts (especially at high doses) * increased emotional impact of music * Time sense altered: cars seem like they are moving too fast, time dilation and compression are common at higher doses
NEGATIVE
* nausea, especially in combination with alcohol, some pharmaceuticals, or other psychoactives * coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems * difficulty with short term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use (Ranganathan M, D'Souza DC, Psychopharmacology, 2006) * racing heart, agitation, feeling tense * mild to severe anxiety * panic attacks in sensitive users or with very high doses (oral use increases risk of getting too much) * headaches * dizziness, confusion * lightheadedness or fainting (in cases of lowered blood pressure) * paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent * possible psychological dependence on cannabis * clumsiness, loss of coordination at high doses * can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders
WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS
* mild to moderate, non life-threatening withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. These may last for 1-6 weeks after cessation of use and can include anxiety, anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure), headaches, general unease/discomfort, difficulty sleeping, and a desire to smoke pot. Severity of symptoms is related to frequency of use and individual sensitivity. * slight loss of appetite * finding non-stoned life a bit dull, increased boredom
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THEBats
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: TheAbyss]
#7827178 - 01/03/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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TheAbyss said: OSITIVE
* mood lift, euphoria * laughter * relaxation, stress reduction * creative, philosophical or deep thinking : ideas flow more easily * increased appreciation of music. More aware of, deeper connection to music. * increased awareness of senses. (eating, drinking, smell) * change in experience of muscle fatigue. Pleasant body feel. Increase in body/mind connection. * pain relief (headaches, cramps) * reduced nausea, increased appetite (used medically for this) * boring tasks or entertainment can become more interesting or funny
NEUTRAL
* general change in consciousness (as with many psychoactives) * increased appetite, snacky-ness * slowness (slow driving, talking) * change in vision such as sharpened colors or lights * closed-eye visuals (somewhat uncommon) * tiredness, sleepiness, lethargy * stimulation, inability to sleep (less common) * blood shot eyes (more common with certain varieties of cannabis and inexperienced users) * mouth dryness, sticky-mouth (varies with strain) * interrupts linear memory. Difficulty following a train of thought. * cheek, jaw, facial tension / numbness (less commonly reported) * racing thoughts (especially at high doses) * increased emotional impact of music * Time sense altered: cars seem like they are moving too fast, time dilation and compression are common at higher doses
NEGATIVE
* nausea, especially in combination with alcohol, some pharmaceuticals, or other psychoactives * coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems * difficulty with short term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use (Ranganathan M, D'Souza DC, Psychopharmacology, 2006) * racing heart, agitation, feeling tense * mild to severe anxiety * panic attacks in sensitive users or with very high doses (oral use increases risk of getting too much) * headaches * dizziness, confusion * lightheadedness or fainting (in cases of lowered blood pressure) * paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent * possible psychological dependence on cannabis * clumsiness, loss of coordination at high doses * can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders
WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS
* mild to moderate, non life-threatening withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. These may last for 1-6 weeks after cessation of use and can include anxiety, anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure), headaches, general unease/discomfort, difficulty sleeping, and a desire to smoke pot. Severity of symptoms is related to frequency of use and individual sensitivity. * slight loss of appetite * finding non-stoned life a bit dull, increased boredom
wow. now if only you came up with an answer yourself...
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Seventy
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: THEBats]
#7827222 - 01/03/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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does anyone else here ever get a heavy static, tingly like feeling that sorta reverberates through your whole body when high?
there's been a few times where I'm just slumped on my friend's couch and my bodily sensations are just going absolutely nuts like this. it's the craziest feeling.
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: Seventy]
#7827322 - 01/03/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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yeah at the same time i get static vision though,
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: Seventy]
#7827892 - 01/03/08 03:06 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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Seventy said: does anyone else here ever get a heavy static, tingly like feeling that sorta reverberates through your whole body when high?
there's been a few times where I'm just slumped on my friend's couch and my bodily sensations are just going absolutely nuts like this. it's the craziest feeling.
I got this one time after i smoked about 3 bowls of very good bud. I went to sleep directly after and I felt all of these sensations rushing up and down my body. Very strange but cool feeling.
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Azrah
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: Rainman420]
#7827932 - 01/03/08 03:17 PM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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When I smoke a sativa its mental high and indica is a body high for me. I can't drive after I smoke a indica strain lmao because I feel kinda of drunk.
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Merkin
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The Most Undefinable High?
I'd say that is due to the missing Nitrogen
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zubi420
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Orbital_Saucer said: Marijuana, put abstractly, seems to soften the hard edges of my consciousness. It puts a person more in tune with some aspects of their mind, and less in tune with others.
Subtle, yet profound would be the best all-around description.
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ohnoezes said: the high depends on the strain you're smoking.
Prove this to me. Unless there are other psychoactive compounds in cannabis besides THC, there is no reason one strain would give a different high from another. (not talking about potency here)
It's like saying being drunk from beer is different from being drunk from Brandy.
THC is not the only psychoactive in weed. There is also CBD which provides the stoned/euphoric/narcotic effects. Thc is primarily the psychedelic effects of the drug. Different strains have diffferent concentrations and ratios to the amount of THC and CBD sort of changing the type of high but the nature of it is still the same.
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Apollyphelion said: I get "monged" on weed every once in a while!
...Monged.
That is a new one to me, sir.
Yeah, getting 'monged' out is not very fun. It defeats the purpose of using it in the first place. You want to feel happily inebriated, not duuuu....de? Huh? Woa.....
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: Grylls]
#7868947 - 01/12/08 12:47 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I dunno about you guys, but I like getting completely 'monged.'
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I smoke all day everyday, weed is awesome because it's always different. After a day of not smoking I can't even really remember what it feels like. There's jut so many factors that affect the high, it's amazing.
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The only difference I've ever seen in weed is that sunken into shroom-land on weed before, not nearly as deep as a real shroom trip but still out of reality.
Other than that, I would have to say all weed makes me tired, relaxed and clear-minded.
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: Grylls]
#7869627 - 01/12/08 04:19 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Grylls said:
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Apollyphelion said: I get "monged" on weed every once in a while!
...Monged.
That is a new one to me, sir.
Yeah, getting 'monged' out is not very fun. It defeats the purpose of using it in the first place. You want to feel happily inebriated, not duuuu....de? Huh? Woa.....
Wouldn't the purpose of using drugs be a subjective thing in the first place?
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porcupine
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i think salvia is harder to define.
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manyc
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Re: The Most Undefinable High? [Re: porcupine]
#7870032 - 01/12/08 05:52 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I agree, and I think it's because I've been smoking for so long, just without ever really questioning it. It has become a part of me, it is the norm, so I don't know how to explain it to someone whose norm is sobriety. I just ... can't imagine not smoking weed. Maybe I'm just a fucking drug addict, but if I can't smoke weed, I'm not happy.
I like sitting on my back porch smoking a blunt, alone or with people. When I'm alone though, I can focus more on my high, and I can get pretty deep into it... get caught in trances and shit. It's fuckin great. ^-^
God damnit I love weed!!
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Edited by manyc (01/12/08 05:53 PM)
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