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OfflineSwondPooping
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Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness?
    #782259 - 07/28/02 03:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hello,

I am new at cultivation and I was able to share my first harvest with a group of very close friends last night, and I can't even express the feeling of complete happiness I felt from seeing my friends smiling and having a good time and enjoying each other _because of something I brought to them_. It was the wildest feeling of being mother nature and overseeing the happiness that my friends were experiencing because of my efforts.

This has been a very fulfilling experience and I will continue to make the effort to bring these kinds of experiences to my friends. I am just wondering if anyone else has felt the happiness that comes with cultivation and sharing with your friends like I have? Have you felt like a creator of things natural and beautiful?


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Karynne

this added on 8/18/02

I can see that this has gotten off the original question. My orignal thoughts were about being a mycologist just so you could give it to your friends for the sole purpose of feeling good that you can _cause happiness_ (real or drug induced: isn't it still happy?) I haven't given it to any of my friends unless I can be there with them to trip. So I have been lucky to be witness to a lot of laughs and smiles. I think there are a lot of valid points here, and though I like stirring a debate, I thought I would clarify my thoughts now that I have been able to reflect a little more.


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Edited by SwondPooping (08/18/02 06:39 AM)


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: SwondPooping]
    #782268 - 07/28/02 03:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone can feel that with drugs, You should say "has anyone felt overwhelming Fake Happiness?"


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Glowing_Eleven]
    #782354 - 07/28/02 04:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How is happiness that comes from drugs fake??? That was just not needed and uncalled for.

To answer your question, Karynne, I have felt this same thing before.

On one occasion, two of my friends told me that they were finally ready to try shrooms just as my last flush was finishing up. I didn't have enough for all of us to trip, so I decided to just let the two of them split the shrooms, and I would be their sitter.

As I watched them become introduced to the mushroom experience, I couldn't help but share in the euphoria that they were feeling. I saw the smiles spread across their faces, and "that look" come in their eye; and I was overwhelmed with happiness, almost as if I had eaten the sacred mushroom.

I was just so happy that I was able to share the fruits of my labor with them and bring them such joy.

And yes, each time that I have done shrooms myself, I have felt an intense, overwhelming euphoria that just courses throughout my body! It is such a strong feeling that I have been moved to the point of sobbing.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: SwondPooping]
    #782459 - 07/28/02 05:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I cherish moments of happiness, instead of writing them off as delusions.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Glowing_Eleven]
    #782478 - 07/28/02 05:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone can feel that with drugs, You should say "has anyone felt overwhelming Fake Happiness?"

I understand where Glowing is coming from, ask yourself if you would of have felt this way if you haven't ingested shrooms. You felt happy because of the effect shrooms were having on you but I still think that is genuine happiness. it's just that your feelings are multiplied ten fold and it feels overwhelming.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: chodamunky]
    #782512 - 07/28/02 05:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

you still feel it, it is still a feeling of happiness...




Edited by Smack31 (07/28/02 05:49 PM)


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #782530 - 07/28/02 05:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It might be considered as an experience... but an induced feeling is not that of happiness. We are straying to far from subltey
And um... what i said wasn't uncalled for, if you don't like it you can shove it buddy.

like i said even a person who lives a life of depression can have the illusion of happiness... if it is drug induced it isn't saying much. I do not deny that it is an experience but it is one that is not real

You seem to like to rationalize the reality of drug induced emotions


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Glowing_Eleven]
    #782631 - 07/28/02 07:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I kind of agree with Steve that that was a bit harsh. I mean Karynne had a really great positive, perhaps growth experience and you just tell her how it was pretty much illegitimate. But I do respect your right to post whatever you want?

So you are saying that a feeling that is induced by a psychoactive chemical is fake?

First, if you agree that consciousness is grounded in physiology and, in the end, the experience of any emotion is due to a neuro-chemical change, then shrooming happiness is obviously no less real than any other experience we have (physiological states give rise to mental states).

But, that is probably not the ?real? you were talking about. So by real, what do you mean? What distinguishes real happiness from fake drug-induced happiness? Please enlighten Karynne so she may know. I'm curious too!


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: buttonion]
    #782921 - 07/28/02 10:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I have felt overwhelmingly happy. And not just on drugs. However happiness on drugs is certainly real. You are perceiving it, so why wouldn't it be real. Who defines reality anyways.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #783309 - 07/29/02 06:46 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Who defines reality anyways.
Nature.

The most overwhelming happiness I've experienced has not been on drugs but involved meeting and getting to know the woman who would become my wife. No drug has ever been able to match that.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Glowing_Eleven]
    #783316 - 07/29/02 06:50 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, wow, I didn't know that this would cause such a stir. I wasn't so much happy for myself, as I was happy knowing that I had been able to give my friends something fun and enlightening and enjoyable to do on a saturday night. I never felt this when I bought the beer for a party, I never felt this when I threw the party and made sure there was pot there. So, yes maybe because of the mushrooms there was a more intense feeling. But even now, I feel closer to those friends, I am extremely happy that I could bring this experience to them and to some of them for the first time.

My real question was answered by RebelSteve, he understood what I meant by the happiness one gets from giving to others. Thank you.

At the time, it was overwhelming for me, now it is pretty significant.

Sigh

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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: SwondPooping]
    #784171 - 07/29/02 02:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I suggest working at a homeless shelter or something


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: SwondPooping]
    #784445 - 07/29/02 04:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

"Who defines reality anyways.
Nature."


Nature also gives us mushrooms, and why wouldn't the experience be natural? I mean nature allows us to perceive altered states of consciousness, why wouldn't they be considered to be as real.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: SwondPooping]
    #784588 - 07/29/02 05:57 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

When I was a child, I caught a fleeting glimpse...must the show go on?


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Glowing_Eleven]
    #817858 - 08/15/02 01:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hapiness in all its facets is still real to anyone experiencing it, however the reasons as to why we become happy and to what degree of happiness are as different as each and every one of us. Would I be happier meeting the women of my dreams than shroomin'? of course, nonetheless, would I be happy under both circumstances? absoulutely.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #818530 - 08/15/02 06:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

However happiness on drugs is certainly real.

We can argue all day over what experience is real or valid or lasting, but ask heroin and cocaine junkies, alcoholics, burnt-out Xers and speed freaks about how happy they are.

Ask that same question to someone into health, creativity, their family, etc. and maybe we will have a better definition of what is real.




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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Glowing_Eleven]
    #818880 - 08/15/02 08:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I don't understand why anyone with glowings' outlook would even be here. You call it fake and yet you are here. You think that any emotion experianced on drugs is not worthy and less valid than any other emtion. I hope you are not seeking enlightenment. Of course why would you be? It would just be fake. And by that, anything ever created while the creator was touched would be of a lesser caliber and invalid?
Why are you here??????
Do you have a fake fetish?
You sound like a drug councler/DEA type to me.


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #819272 - 08/16/02 04:55 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

to me it sounds just like your avg. asshole...


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: pattern]
    #819513 - 08/16/02 07:19 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I cherish moments of happiness, instead of writing them off as delusions

If everybody did this...what a wonderfull world this would be!


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Re: Has anyone felt overwhelming happiness? [Re: Swami]
    #819549 - 08/16/02 07:39 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with swami....real happiness comes from your natural state..if its drug induced then how could that be real??


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